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you may wrong about one of those points MK. you say that you've only taken 1 village from BANG in the last week from when plight entered the war but you have gained alot from them in the weeks leading up to the war as well. Most of the following villages were right on the border we share in k33 so BANG has helped you in that area by taking villages right on our doorstep just days before we went to war. (stalhills cluster in amongst my villages that redsox took comes to mind) :icon_wink:

Side 1:
Tribes: C²
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: BANG!
Players:
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers:
Side 1: 2,187
Side 2: 425
Difference: 1,762
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Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 126
Side 2: 11
Difference: 115
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Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 20,079,584
Side 2: 3,697,753
Difference: 16,381,831
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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 1,182,314
Side 2: 117,370
Difference: 1,064,944
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thats over 100 quite a few of which are right in amongst us lol. though this doesnt warrant them being added to the stats as they are still neutral in this conflict but to say it has been no help could perhaps be pushing it a bit much? lol

now to be back on topic and away from BANG, this should be a long and enjoyable war. and should pick up a bit as we in plight get into the swing of things and get used to being at war again :icon_smile:
 

MichielK

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haza teh great said:
you may wrong about one of those points MK. you say that you've only taken 1 village from BANG in the last week from when plight entered the war but you have gained alot from them in the weeks leading up to the war as well. Most of the following villages were right on the border we share in k33 so BANG has helped you in that area by taking villages right on our doorstep just days before we went to war. (stalhills cluster in amongst my villages that redsox took comes to mind) :icon_wink:
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Nobody is arguing that BANG has not helped us in the past. However, to include them in the war stats they'd have to be a factor during the war, and they simply aren't. The Stal villages are in fact a good example; I've had that sitting myself for quite some time. BANG asked for the sitting back when the war started, and I returned it. BANG is allied with both C² and Plight, and have chosen to remain neutral. I say we treat them as such, rather than finding reasons to include them on one side or the other.

It's funny that apparently Plight members agree with this, yet LSHRV has a problem with it. Unless there are people in Plight who feel BANG should be included in the stats, I'm just going to ignore the objections of the people who are halfway across the world and probably never even spoke to a BANG member before :icon_wink:

now to be back on topic and away from BANG, this should be a long and enjoyable war. and should pick up a bit as we in plight get into the swing of things and get used to being at war again :icon_smile:
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We know from experience (and I'm sure the same applies to LSHRV) that no matter how much you prepare in theory, it takes actual battlefield action to optimise things for war. It doesn't matter that Plight was the first to go to war, or that there were 3 weeks to prepare; in the end, you don't know your own weaknesses and strengths (let alone those of your enemy) until nukes start flying. It'll be intriguing to see Plight go through this process, and how their policy for euthanasia affects it.
 

DeletedUser

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It's funny that apparently Plight members agree with this, yet LSHRV has a problem with it. Unless there are people in Plight who feel BANG should be included in the stats, I'm just going to ignore the objections of the people who are halfway across the world and probably never even spoke to a BANG member before
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Who in Sf has a problem with it? I certainly don't want bang! included in the stats,I simply had an issue with the idea put across that c2 was taking on the whole world all by itself when in reality it had a large back up of players and villages in another tribe that it has been able to call upon when needed to boost the tribe.

I certainly don't want bang! included in the stats,just some recognition (which we now have) that C2 hasn't done everything its done in the war so far all by itself.

If SF had a major problem with this we would of kicked up a fuss months ago when the merge began
 

MichielK

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mjh78 said:
Who in Sf has a problem with it? I certainly don't want bang! included in the stats,I simply had an issue with the idea put across that c2 was taking on the whole world all by itself when in reality it had a large back up of players and villages in another tribe that it has been able to call upon when needed to boost the tribe.

I certainly don't want bang! included in the stats,just some recognition (which we now have) that C2 hasn't done everything its done in the war so far all by itself.

If SF had a major problem with this we would of kicked up a fuss months ago when the merge began
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Did BANG help us throughout our history as a tribe? Of course, they've been great allies. Did they help us against LSHRV? Absolutely not, they're on the other side of the world. If you want to argue BANG has had an influence somewhere, check with your academy tribe, who are in BANG's area.
 

DeletedUser

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We have an academy tribe? And there's me thinking we were struggling to fill our main tribe up with active members

I presume your either talking about *MK* or sunny,if you are then I think c2 put to much importance on our links together,I for 1 have never even spoken to anyone from *MK* before and apart from possibly msterjake at the time,have never known any member of ours receive any support from them,I could be mistaken though but I don't think I am.

We once gave them an inactive account to help them move to the front if that counts

And we've already discussed sunny who has a leader who doesn't like SF or so it seems,and the rest of the members of that tribe are incredibly small and are unable to offer us much in terms of support or nukes if anything at all
 

DeletedUser

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MichielK said:
Something really annoying.
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Nope, I wasn't trying to get you an infraction. But yeah I was actually wondering, what gave it away? Maybe the question mark right after I said it :icon_rolleyes:


Everyone in your tribe doesn't respect me. But I don't care cause everyone in your tribe is useless noobs. But I can assure you players in my tribe respect me, not everyone but I have been told by a few, I would also hope I have earned respect from a few Plight players as well. They are very nice and I do enjoy talking to them after all.


Oh and I didn't address the rest cause everything you wrote was ignorant and noobish.

I'll be the judge of that.

And MichielK explained perfectly well how you'd get an infraction when using the word "ass" :)
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It was a question. Not a challenge. :icon_neutral:
 

DeletedUser58923

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Kingdom of Araluen said:
But I don't care cause everyone in your tribe is useless noobs.
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'We is useless noobs?'

Least us useless noobs have grammar. dang.. if your going to flame at least do it properly. Now i have no respect for you for butchering the english language.

@Haza teh great:
Expect revenge sir, expect revenge :D

Kevin
 

DeletedUser

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Gamecat said:
'We is useless noobs?'

Least us useless noobs have grammar. dang.. if your going to flame at least do it properly. Now i have no respect for you for butchering the english language.

@Haza teh great:
Expect revenge sir, expect revenge :D

Kevin
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well in that case i may need to throw a few more attacks around and make it really worth it then lol :icon_wink:
 

DeletedUser

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And as the war settles out and C² remember that they are fighting against not only Plight but SF and others aswell and they start to attack in all directions, the war starts to come to a stand still in nobling

Side 1:
Tribes: Plight SF Bill *MK*
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: C²
Players:
Timeframe: Last 24 hours
Total conquers:
Side 1: 84
Side 2: 68
Difference: 16
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Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 16
Side 2: 17
Difference: 1
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Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 717,597
Side 2: 586,053
Difference: 131,544
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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 137,832
Side 2: 155,022
Difference: 17,190
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Also, if we look at the ODA/ODD/Village/Point gain from the 26th (when Plight joined war) this is what it looks like:

Date Tribe Rank Members Points Villages OD ODA ODD

05/07/2010, C², 1, 75, 286963203, 29563, 1997179282, 1194170622, 803008660
04/07/2010, C², 1, 76, 286753095, 29545, 1999611796, 1200245049, 799366747
03/07/2010, C², 1, 76, 286433086, 29515, 1986394347, 1194123004, 792271343
02/07/2010, C², 1, 76, 285741295, 29444, 1977569185, 1189447544, 788121641
01/07/2010, C², 1, 76, 285170197, 29388, 1965522418, 1182340018, 783182400
30/06/2010, C², 1, 76, 284576999, 29329, 1953690130, 1176425181, 776760505
29/06/2010, C², 1, 76, 284279065, 29295, 1945841262, 1171428282, 774145625
28/06/2010, C², 1, 76, 284060747, 29266, 1934359485, 1167214524, 767144961
27/06/2010, C², 1, 76, 283556703, 29200, 1919962889, 1162089474, 757873415
26/06/2010, C², 1, 76, 283060646, 29157, 1904617937, 1156885413, 747732524


05/07/2010, Plight, 2, 55, 176783291, 18132, 782292784, 609894778, 172398006
04/07/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176613561, 18116, 777956117, 606560458, 171395659
03/07/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176489660, 18108, 773382173, 603902365, 169479808
02/07/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176415577, 18105, 768675427, 600986390, 167689037
01/07/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176335740, 18099, 762318002, 596741356, 165576646
30/06/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176227689, 18085, 754105297, 592173066, 161346928
29/06/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176129435, 18074, 748508129, 590247332, 158074503
28/06/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176027475, 18066, 741086192, 588603734, 152482458
27/06/2010, Plight, 2, 56, 176022830, 18067, 731743092, 586736838, 145006254
26/06/2010, Plight, 2, 57, 183133749, 18754, 773956730, 618911900, 155044830
 
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DeletedUser

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Well said alex... and i see u seem to have recieved the most 'attention' from C², loads more ODD i see lol

I must say i admire C² trying to take on the whole world atm... but BANG! really do need to sort out where they stand. All this nonsense that theyre allies with both plight and C² kinda makes a mockery of this global conflict. I know theyve lost Stahill and a few other extremely experienced war veterans but surely those who are left arent afraid of a bit of war...?

We all know that BANG! players will eventually end up in C² anyway so why not just choose your side and get stuck in?

Personally i think u have no choice except to pick sides now or u will end up getting ganked by one of the 2 tribes sometime down the line when they see u as easy prey. Guys ur gonna run out of barbs and inactives to feed off at some point...
 

DeletedUser

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Endemonadia said:
Well said alex... and i see u seem to have recieved the most 'attention' from C², loads more ODD i see lol

I must say i admire C² trying to take on the whole world atm... but BANG! really do need to sort out where they stand. All this nonsense that theyre allies with both plight and C² kinda makes a mockery of this global conflict. I know theyve lost Stahill and a few other extremely experienced war veterans but surely those who are left arent afraid of a bit of war...?

We all know that BANG! players will eventually end up in C² anyway so why not just choose your side and get stuck in?

Personally i think u have no choice except to pick sides now or u will end up getting ganked by one of the 2 tribes sometime down the line when they see u as easy prey. Guys ur gonna run out of barbs and inactives to feed off at some point...
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Completely agree with this post. But the ODD was for a huge price. Losing all my stranded villages in K22 and K34. I thought fallingman, amberor, gamecat and a few others could noble stranded villages with the most of 2 defensive villages in could noble quicker than what they are at the moment :p Good thing ive stacked most of them now since they took so long :p
 

DeletedUser

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mjh78 said:
And we've already discussed sunny who has a leader who doesn't like SF or so it seems...
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Correction: i never liked HRV.

I never had problems with ~LS~ who jumped us in a just war, and i certainly dont have a problem now that theres been a name change, something that shouldve happened back when we merged with them imo.

I personally didnt like the way HRV have always been so rude and disrespectful about ALL of our players and ive taken a personal stand in defense of them. The Sunny guys know this as do those SF who chat to me ingame. And before u all create gossip for my reasoning, lets just say that certain things were said in private about Suncraft dying that i didnt take kindly to, as well as more public and private disrespectful comments about Sunny players.

Hopefully the HRV players who have now played alongside the Sunny guys can now see their quality and we can forget about the past indescretions.
 

DeletedUser78416

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Endemonadia said:
Correction: i never liked HRV.

I never had problems with ~LS~ who jumped us in a just war, and i certainly dont have a problem now that theres been a name change, something that shouldve happened back when we merged with them imo.

I personally didnt like the way HRV have always been so rude and disrespectful about ALL of our players and ive taken a personal stand in defense of them. The Sunny guys know this as do those SF who chat to me ingame. And before u all create gossip for my reasoning, lets just say that certain things were said in private about Suncraft dying that i didnt take kindly to, as well as more public and private disrespectful comments about Sunny players.

Hopefully the HRV players who have now played alongside the Sunny guys can now see their quality and we can forget about the past indescretions.
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I thought you guys never truly knew what happened to him? The consensus way back when was that he logged off and never came back, and everyone 'assumed' the worse.

?
 

DeletedUser

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The Gammy 1 said:
I thought you guys never truly knew what happened to him? The consensus way back when was that he logged off and never came back, and everyone 'assumed' the worse.

?
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Dont even go there Gammy... if u want me to explain what happened then mail me directly.
 

MichielK

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alexhol said:
And as the war settles out and C² remember that they are fighting against not only Plight but SF and others aswell and they start to attack in all directions, the war starts to come to a stand still in nobling

Side 1:
Tribes: Plight SF Bill *MK*
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: C²
Players:
Timeframe: Last 24 hours
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 16
Side 2: 17
Difference: 1
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So you're claiming it's a standstill based on the shortest standard time period available to you? Isn't that...you know...insanely premature? I just ran the same data as you did, and now C² is 17-14 ahead. We turned a loss into a win within half a day...wow, that must mean our enemies are doomed! :icon_wink:

Also, you included ltdavis as an "independent", but excluded both dopeas and Pedro Clara? Could you explain why you did this, aside from that it makes things look far better for your side? I think all three should be included (which would raise the stats to 26-14 in our favor), though I suppose a case can be made for excluding all three (which would still raise the stats, but only to 17-12)...I'd love to see you make the case for including only the people whose stats you like though :icon_wink:

Either way, you picked the worst possible period for us, and hand-picked the sides so that the stats would look as bad as possible for us...and we are still ahead by 1? I'd say that's pretty encouraging :icon_biggrin:





Include all three "independents" (dopeas, ltdavis, Pedro) and that number goes to 26-14. Exclude all three "independents", and it's 17-12.

I just ran the exact same data againd and now C² is 17-14 ahead...does that mean we made huge changes in just a few hours and are now clearly winning again?
 
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