if fact Paj he does. his tribe shared no front and exchanged virtually no nukes so you cant even claim that as a win and them as refugee's. hell i was in CH~ST for awhile so you cant say crap.
we arnt boasting anything pajina. once again you have no proof nor do you have anything so these are just hallow words
I will answer this for you once. Exchanging attacks means nothing to me, as most of my enemies dont see a single incoming before their tribe implodes.
CH/St broke off from Ram. That means they are our refugees as long as we decide. End of. No point debating, we will pursue that point to the end of the world.
paj lets take a look at who you think you are, iv heard people say you are the best duke on w30, from what iv seen of you i dont agree id say you are the duke of some of the best players on w30 and that makes you look better than you are, did you fight any tribe one on one while they were in their prime? everybody iv spoke to on here says no you didnt you hugged and kissed your way through w30 you allied and NAP'd everything around you before you did anything, your biggest claim to fame was you beat BD? from what iv heard from people that were there a lot of BD players were pretty much burned out and retiring w30 anyway after their war with TARDIS when you hit them and you still had to scream for help so not only are you a fake you are also an opportunistic coward, best duke on w30? dont make me laugh youre not a patch on retha or wildcats, iv read mails of you sucking up to HG your supposed enemy and plotting against BH while you were allies how sleazy and sly is that? you are a master manipulator nothing else and im sure some of your member have not got a clue about the dirty underhanded lowlife tactics you use or they probably wouldnt fight for you, your bubbles burst on w30 now you might as well delete 90% of people can now see you for what you really are.
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Ok, the people you are getting your information from these days are the biased remainders. Check the maps, and see how many players are in BH/BH./HG/ and the like. Then understand how many players are going to share that opinion publicly.
The players that i have fought already, the players whose respect i have earned... No longer play this world.
You say Phoenx has never won anything one on one.... no one has ever fought Phoenx in a fair, one on one fight to start their wars. Check the history if you want, but phoenx has always been around 30 ish members at all times... and every war has been two or three tribes to start the fights...
Go down the list if you like, the threads are all there for you. People who are my enemies, come on here.... Declare Pajuno, Phoenx, and my "cult" all to be doomed to death.. and then many many more players than Phoenx come sending troops..
1. Die/Kill fam vs Phoenx war. Check the stats, Die/Kill were both ranked in the top ten, Die was a top five tribe if i remember correctly. All that at the time of declaration. I believe *the rock* and his tribe was also involved in that war against us.
2. BD war - BD was larger, stronger, and allied with THE at its backside for defense. Not many people know now, cause they choose to ignore it.. but MF played a huge part in the breaking down of two phoenx accounts in the early going of that war. No one also likes to remember how things were back then, with everyone absolutely afraid of BD after they dismantled Tardis.......
Rams involvement was its own. I made a nap to the five tribes that Shipley claimed were in his employ, and i fought the best tribe on w30 at that time.... for quite a while before Ram involved itself...
3. Ram war. - that thread also exists. Shipley threatened Phoenx with five tribes, we negotiated it down to four tribes vs us. BH"s involvement was long later, and also always forgotten.. but decide was involved in ram war before joining to BH... so as much as bh likes to blame phoenx for manipulating everything, that was not my own doing...
That war is still going, and Phoenx was again vs Ram/Drift/D2 fam, and was only 30 members that time too. I see an awful lot of growth out of that for a "manipulative" duke that cant hold a patch to wild or rethae... (who took the easy way out with mass recruiting)
Do not try to belittle our accomplishments. Check the stats in this war, they are ugly enough to impress you that we suck, right??? :icon_wink:
It happens every war... Before we win. Who am i going to hug into this now? Who am i going to have fight my war now??? Hahahaha... shut up dude, you dont know jack. [/spoil]
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What is funny to me Paj is that everyone else on this forum lies, except you. Now why is that????
Every post you make, you pass off as true stories but everyone else who post on this board, you call liars.
If we did let HG have any mapco it has surely taken place after Phoenx let Loen have your version of mapco, or is that a lie to. You see many in loen cannot keep their mouth shut neither and like to brag about their toys and dates of certain situations.
Once again here you are with your arrogance proclaiming all post lies but yours.
You just dont like me cause I speak the truth and in order to blur the truth you shout lies. You forget, this is my last world and I have nothing to gain from lying and no need to do it. Anyone in BH and others who know me ingame know that I will not bulls$#@ you nor spread crap that is not true.
I will say that a lot of what you say on these boards is crap and I DO have the proof to back it up but do not need to because I am not looking for acceptance as you are.
the difference here is that i never lied. no one asked if we gave them Phoenx Warmech. I never denied our relationship with LoEN, you guys keep telling me how tight we were. So... you act as if we hid anything.
BH, on the other hand, denied vehemently any relationship with HG for a very long time while stuff still proceeded. There is a major difference you keep forgetting in all your bullshit debates... Rethae's motive is always to hear everyone out... while my arrogance keeps me from even acknowledging "minor" players, correct?? So all this fabulous proof you have of me accepting or cajoling HG is all complete bullshit... and i think deep down you know this too.
As for me, i always tell the truth. the only people who accuse me of being a liar, are usually those that are trying to manipulate against me.... I have always played this way. Up front about my intentions, my plans, and my tribal directions.. and dare you say i lie about that... Its all over the pnp!!!!
I never really have much to hide, about the only thing worth hiding hte last few months has been the slates incident... other than that, there was never a conspiracy nor this "cloak and dagger" bullshit you guys used in the declaration...
So, until you post this proof.. means nothing to me.
I have kept my word with BH, and no member of Phoenx ever sent a nuke at BH until BH fired first. I believe you yourself assured me that BH would never fire the first nuke.. did you not?? [/spoil]
All respect to you t33chr but I just want to grab this quote to show again how many definitions about merge/recruitment there is in this world.
As we have seen Paj post, taking in players in is bad and considered hugging when related to any other tribe but Phoenx. However we see with your post that you earned the right to move over to either of our tribes to leave a dying ship. I agree with your definition for sure as this form is followed by all tribes during war. Calling 1 tribe huggers when all do it, is just lame and pathetic. I also give you respect for implying that both groups who joined both Phoenx and BH had earned the right to move on and continue playing the game. :icon_cool::icon_cool:
i read this and just had to respond. there is a HUGE ridiculous difference here between our ideas of hugging. Phoenx has never recruited more than a few players here and there since BD war began. Our idea of war spoils is a LOT less than BH's....
Bh's recruiting list...
Hammer war.. how many accounts you absorb there??
THE war how many accounts you absorb with that war?
BD recruits. you took in 6-8 accounts with that recruiting...
Legion - one day legion is there, one day its not...
MF - how many <4 million point accounts did you absorb there??
CH/ST one day a bunch of accounts, next day.. absorbed into BH.
HG - right now its a separate tribe, but in following BH's standard procedure..they will all join because Rethae gave her word. :icon_redface:
Phoenx recruits 3-5 from the entire duration of Ram war???
Prior to that was the nads recruits way back when players/accounts were far more numerous???
How dare you try to compare our recruiting methods the same and try to stick us with the definition of hugger???
Just check your tribal changes and get back to me....... Phoenx has existed since day 1 of w30... and i bet you we have the lowest tribal changes of any older tribe left on w30................
Disgusting, Tim... absolutely disgusting...
How funny that you are the one to say anything when you share a pillow with Phoenx and have been for quite some time. By Paj own admission you guys were in bed together with a NAP when our war with you began. Funny how Paj claims we chose a NAP over an ally when he did the same thing. How convenient that was for both of you.
Ahh... here comes the full on bullshit storm, eh tim?? Go out with a collateral bang??
Were you NOT in the tribal chat when i told rethae and wild i could not be involved in that war?? that i have been friends with loen since the beginning?? or that i cant break my word with LoEN until they broke their word with me??
How much more clear could i have made my position??? I stayed on the sidelines throughout that war, and as a matter of fact we assisted rands whining ass in getting into position against ciranore account..
Again, you love to compare your crap oranges to my delicious granny smiths. Stop trying to lie and twist stuff around.. Rethae and wild both confidently stated they could easily handle a pushover like LoEN, and that its not a problem with them... my, how funny that lie was way back when, eh??
So what needs denied or a denial? You all seem like we have hid things about the whole ordeal. Everyone knew about it and some were happy to be relieved of incomings from those ram players. Remember, this was Phoenx's war not ours. We just stepped in to help our allies and we did. RAM players can attest that BH fought and fought well in the short time we battled.
Since you have not denied anything then that says a lot about the state of affairs for you and your huggy partners. So before speaking again just remember.....
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Ahhh... all the lies come out tonight, eh tim??? How much shit you forget when you dont live it, eh??
remember Ram recruited Decides food?? Do you remember that story?? Noobaxes posted it all over the pnp, did he not??
You keep trying to blame Phoenx for your involvement with ram. But i recall decide being a rather large reason when you recruited all of the decide minus my three......
Wow dude. slinging all the lies you got in your grab bag?? Got anythign else you want refuted?? How about the simple fact that BH/BH. napped/allied/sharing forums with HG outnumbers Phoenx/loen by a rather ridiculous amount??? How can you NOT be guilty of hugging/mass recruiting??
ps. and BH forced Phoenx to strengthen its ties to LoEN> Just ask sir mike, we cannot stand each other.... But being outnumber 3 to 1 kind of begs for drastic measures, no?
if that counts:icon_wink: while you guys "attempted to rim me" but never did so xD i always had my few villages and safe zones
