I don't know much about the history of w18 as you well know but according to TW Stats you was a member of fear up until 31st August 2009 - 04:00:01. Are you the type of play Rudegar is referring to?
I assumed that all the people reading this thread knew the history...Yes, I was a duke of FEAR, and although the stats say diferent, it was basically my second tribe, My original tribe FKH went through some divisions and merges to become REBEL; Alf and I as the dukes joined FTTD (which became FEAR in another merge) and brought REBEL in as a sister/academy tribe
Second bit of history I assumed people reading the thread knew is that after Alf and I stepped down as Dukes of FEAR (due to RL issues), the dukes who replaced us first alienated Alf to the point he left the tribe (and did not join Apoc or any other tribe), and then transfered my account to Apoc-W while it was being sat. So no, I did not join Apoc because my tribe was loosing, or because I wanted to survive. I actually felt confident that once summer was over and I and Alf had time to play and plan again, and players came back, FEAR would give Apoc a good run for their money.
I think
rattlesnake knew that as well, and that is why he knowingly invited a sat account into Apoc-W and let it continue to be sat by the duke of FEAR while it was in Apoc-W, it was the only way he could really deliver a serious blow to FEAR; we were not winning, but we were far from being defeated!
I came home from two weeks away to find myself in Apoc-W, a tribe I had no intention of ever joining, and that as far as my tribe knew I had abandoned them....no one but the leadership knew I was being sat. Even tho I had stepped down as duke until my family issues were resolved, most of the tribe still looked to me as leader, so I was not surprised that several had decided to join Apoc in my wake, nor that a number had decided to just quit.
As I said in my post, I just did not feel like trying to undo the damage that had been done by Techno and Gemallia, the new dukes of FEAR. I decided to just quit as well, but to wait out the week until my PA expired...then
poolboy007 transferred me a month's points....I got talking to Erik and Alf and my friends who were in Apoc-W, and just decided to stay. I suppose at that point I could have been persuaded to move to INF or -MM- but the fact was, and is, I have a number of good friends in Apoc, after being allies for over a year, and enemies for a few months, there was a lot of respect and history there
My beginnings in Apoc were a bit rocky, as i also said in my post, I have been attacked by
rattlesnake8 more since I joined apoc than when i was in FEAR...but I do not switch tribes easily: I would have preferred to have stayed with FEAR, but I was way too mad and hurt and to go back
After i decided to keep playing, several FEAR people who had quit decided they would start playing again if they could be in my tribe, and yes, I also asked some people still in FEAR to join me, and Alf, who was still tribeless....so we have ended up with the core group of FEAR actives also in Apoc, for better or for worse (better for Apoc, worse for IM/MI i hope)
One of my pet hates are players that openly slate their tribes in public. Now maybe what you said was meant to be sarcastic but I am under the impression that it wasn't.
Well, a bit sarcastic, and a bit not...and my tribe is Apoc-N, not Apoc, and I will be loyal to Apoc-N til I leave this world...in other words, rudegar, I am no more likely to be persuaded to join your tribe than i was persuaded to join Apoc, so unless you can persuade Erik to move me to -IM- sometime when he is sitting my account it will not ever be an issue
