Turtl3 was hugging since the war with ODB. ODB created a loose confederation of tribes which was many just fighting a common enemy
You put together a coalition that at one point, outnumbered us in villages 1500-800. While we had diplomacy with some surrounding tribes, anyone that had positive diplo was told very clearly that attacking ODB or its coalition partners without our express permission would be a violation of diplomacy. Hardly call that hugging.
draegone said:
while Turtl3 recruited (including a member of One our ally, jodesva)
We recruited ONLY jodesva, who had proven himself fighting us, and was disgruntled with his tribe/allies. I will not feel badly about one player.
draegone said:
I think this speaks for itself:
[spoil].::56:76:11::. Chaos is a ladder (661|571) K56 6,312 Draegone DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-31 16:34:42
.::56:75:71::. Chaos is a ladder (651|577) K56 8,274 Draegone DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-29 23:40:10
.::56:75:08::. Chaos is a ladder (658|570) K56 6,931 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-29 21:49:40
.::56:75:94::. Chaos is a ladder (654|579) K56 7,228 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-29 06:26:15
.::56:33:48::. Chaos is a ladder (638|534) K56 6,752 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-28 18:23:08
.::56:86:99::. Chaos is a ladder (669|589) K56 8,930 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-28 05:50:58
.::56:63:75::. Chaos is a ladder (635|567) K56 9,789 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-27 02:55:37
.::56:95:36::. Chaos is a ladder (656|593) K56 9,282 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-26 18:44:05
.::56:66:03::. Chaos is a ladder (663|560) K56 9,950 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-26 12:49:08
.::56:76:27::. Chaos is a ladder (667|572) K56 9,756 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-25 21:39:16
.::56:67:67::. Chaos is a ladder (677|566) K56 9,162 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-25 15:01:50
.::56:66:72::. Chaos is a ladder (662|567) K56 9,742 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-25 13:36:42
.::56:55:21::. Chaos is a ladder (651|552) K56 9,211 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-25 05:27:07
.::56:65:83::. Chaos is a ladder (653|568) K56 9,827 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-24 12:27:12
.::56:75:67::. Chaos is a ladder (657|576) K56 8,288 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-24 11:38:06
.::56:34:57::. Chaos is a ladder (647|535) K56 4,669 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-24 07:54:33
.::56:34:57::. Chaos is a ladder (654|531) K56 8,905 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-24 00:12:50
.::56:66:21::. Chaos is a ladder (661|562) K56 9,760 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-23 21:00:27
.::56:33:18::. Chaos is a ladder (638|531) K56 9,755 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-23 18:53:44
.::56:67:00::. Chaos is a ladder (670|560) K56 11,079 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-23 17:22:09
.::56:56:36::. Chaos is a ladder (666|553) K56 9,888 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-23 17:04:59
.::56:24:66::. Chaos is a ladder (646|526) K56 7,613 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-22 16:44:05
.::56:35:03::. Chaos is a ladder (653|530) K56 8,920 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-22 14:20:42
.::56:77:03::. Chaos is a ladder (673|570) K56 9,137 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-22 13:15:53
.::56:75:56::. Chaos is a ladder (656|575) K56 9,755 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-21 01:27:23
.::56:96:31::. Chaos is a ladder (661|593) K56 9,835 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-20 17:10:50
.::56:75:05::. Chaos is a ladder (655|570) K56 9,742 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-20 15:24:11
.::56:34:75::. Chaos is a ladder (645|537) K56 9,760 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-20 13:11:46
.::56:66:22::. Chaos is a ladder (662|562) K56 9,620 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-20 10:36:06
.::56:24:65::. Chaos is a ladder (645|526) K56 9,894 Draegone [V/Aers] DarkLordd [V/A] 2013-07-20 06:56:34[/spoil]
While gaining
only 4000 ODD during these conquers...
draegone said:
, and replaced members to get their footing.
My apologies, I will never recruit another player or coplayer to turtl3, and you never recruit a new light cavalry to replace one lost along the way.
draegone said:
I remember specifically that they began using a tribe on their eastern side as an academy of sorts, which is further evidenced by accounts they were internalling going to that tribe. They later merged with them.
The tribe you are thinking of was called Ronery. An alliance was established with Ronery and the tribes were kept separate while each party handled their respective north/south portion of k66. Once this was done, we did merge, yes. Absolutely no players moved into Ronery to be internalled by Turtl3, in no way were they an academy:
http://www.twstats.com/en68/index.php?page=tribe&mode=tribe_changes&id=10824
This was of course until many of the acclaimed players went inactive and they were left with but a handful of players working their entire tribe.
We got hit by a nasty activity bug... I do notice that Turtl3 is still alive and well, and what happened to O.D.B? That's right, they merged into V/A and V/Aers, and the leftovers formed M.B. And you guys didn't even have activity problems.
So what was that you were saying...?
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From the hypothetical "pr0 el33t" outside view, has Turtl3 been perfect with 0 internals, 0 merges, 0 diplomacy, 0 players quitting and only 20 members in the tribe at any given time? We certainly have not. I damn near quit when I got home from my 2 weeks away and saw that TBA had grown substantially larger and been officially made into an academy. So now we have Turtl3 (rank 2) and Turtle (rank 8)
Meanwhile, V/A (near 900 village lead at rank 1) and V/A (rank 5) and M.B (Rank 13) + additional basher tribes: GMB, immune, N.I.N., SMSBS, Clear!
are allied to
DD (rank 3), VIRUS (rank 4), VIRUS2 (rank 12) and VIRUS 3 (rank 17)
Hmm.....
Oh, and did I mention that V/A is trying very hard to get Justifi3d to leave Turtl3 and join them as recently as today...?
.......