chemeddy on 21.05. at 16:48
Hi! I'm [player]Chemeddy[/player] from [ally]JDL[/ally], and I just want to raise my point of view of the above mater.
I noticed on May 19 that my neighbour [player]xXxstarbucksxXx[/player] had abandoned his village. Surprised, I checked out the tribal rankings in K77 and discovered that VIRUS had been displayed. I thought it would be a fairly good idea to invite some of the former members to my tribe since there are still some vacancies left.
As a new player to the game (I started playing only in late april), I didn't thought about checking out the reason as to why VIRUS was disbanded. While I had seen the term 'refugees' before, it had not occur to me that the people I want to invite are 'refugees' of a war between [ally]AoO[/ally] and VIRUS.
Now, I respect [player]Rollocks[/player] for informing my leader to inform her of his intention to attack former ex-VIRUS members because of the war, and that he had no intention to attack any of my tribe-mates. However, I feel that there should be a limit to this witch-hunt.
I feel that it's easy to find out which ex-VIRUS members participated in the war against your tribe. One just has to compile the attack reports. The thing is that not all the VIRUS members took part in the war, but they are now hunted down simply due to their association with the tribe.
Now, Rollocks' argument is that by not leaving the tribe when war is declared, they are deemed to have participated in the war. However, this may not be a fair reasoning as not all members regularly check their mails. Some didn't even log on during the period of the war. Others may just ignore it as they might have felt that they had not attacked anyone, and hence, should be 'safe' from it.
I'm asking that only the perpetrators be punished, and leave the innocents alone. It's not fair that they have to suffer for the follies of a handful of idiotic members.
Besides, the war had been won, and the tribe wiped off. Can't we just end off there? If there has been continued attacks on AoO by ex-members of VIRUS current in JDL, then I accept that they be punished and I'm sure my leaders will act accordingly as well. We had issued an order down to the 'refugees' not to attack but only to hold their ground in the hope that peace be restored. However, despite our continued protests and mails to Rollocks, the attacks have not ceased.
Is this the stand of AoO that these players be punished continuously? Or is it just a personal vengeance by some of our members? I hope that there be a clarification. But more importantly, I hope that logic and grace be exercised.
Regards,
Chemeddy
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 17:14
[player]Chemeddy[/player],
I appreciate you contacting me with regards to the situation. I believe that I am getting the whole issue of "refugees" taken care of and I hope this can all be behind us within the next couple of days (different time zones and people who don't log in taken into account.)
[ally]AoO[/ally] does not want to get in the habit of taking in "refugees" because of the headaches that they bring; which I am sure some folks are having now. What other tribes choose to do with them is totally up them.
It is hard sometimes to know where to draw the line. You fear that if you take them into your tribe, they may be spies, leave you without support in their area or leave you once they have spent time with you.
I believe we have it down to a few players that we don't feel there should be any amnesty for do to actions that were taken.
I trust, with a little time, this will all be just water under the bridge.
---BlueMaxx
chemeddy on 21.05. at 17:28
Thank you for your prompt reply.
I'm indeed enriched by this experience, and will definitely think twice before inviting ex-members from other tribes. Do let us know if there are people who are responsible for the war hiding in JDL. In that way, we would understand why they are punished by AoO.
Thank you once again. =]
Chemeddy
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 17:44
I believe that the following are the only ones, that are with you, that we may still have a problem with:
[player]Inspiron1525[/player] Tribe jumper and war instigator.
[player]ANIXEYTHS[/player] I believe actively fought.
[player]tonik1985[/player] Refused several invites from AoO and then joined Virus.
chemeddy on 21.05. at 17:55
Fair game to the first 2 players. I will let my leaders know.
However, to punish someone for rejecting invitations... Isn't it a little too far? He also rejected us a couple of times, with not very good reasons I would say. But from what I can remember, he did mentioned that he was actively trying to join VIRUS before they eventually accept him in. Possibly, in my opinion, because both ANIXEYTHS & xXxstarbucksxXx were quite near him, and that VIRUS, at that time, was the No.1 tribe in K77.
I hope you will reconsider your decision to attack tonik1985. As for the first two, I promise that I will get my leaders to look into this.
May I have your permission to post your reply on my board? I would like to see what they have got to say as well.
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 18:02
Feel free to post.
chemeddy on 21.05. at 18:03
Thank you.
tonik1985's situation?
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 18:06
I will ask the council and see who they want to refine the annihilation tactics to. He may be in the clear.
chemeddy on 21.05. at 18:10
Okay.
Thank you once again.
I hope that after this minor hiccup, we can cement this resolution with an alliance. I will put it up to my leaders.
It has been great corresponding with you.
Cheers!
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 18:11
You as well.
Thank you.
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 19:28
Here is where we are standing and hopefully will be able to move on.
[ally]AoO[/ally] will be willing to forgive and forget the refugees: [player]tonik1985[/player], [player]chameras[/player], and [player]FaceMineWrath[/player] if they agree to help wipe out [player]Inspiron1525
[/player] and [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player]. We would also like them to send at least 100 soldiers a piece to [player]Cosgrave[/player] for support. His city has been getting damaged by ANIXEYTHS's friend. The attacks on these two problem areas should be forwarded to me so that I can post them in my forum for further attacks from AoO.
---BlueMaxx
chemeddy on 21.05. at 19:34
I will forward this mail to my leaders for them to look into it and make a decision. I will revert to you as soon as possible.
Chemeddy
BlueMaxx on 21.05. at 19:35
Thank you.
chemeddy on 21.05. at 20:14
Hi!
While I await my leaders' response, may I offer a counter-proposal?
The following is a post by [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player] on our board:
ANIXEYTHS said:
As long as it concerns me, I had accepted a lot of attacks from members [AoO] and at some time I reacted, making one and only attack in BlueMaxx. In no other battle I am not mixed.
He later clarified that it was [player]Icarus2187[/player] whom he attacked, and not you.
As you can see, his command of English seems to be poor. The way I would interpret his post is that he attacked as a counter-offensive measure in response to attacks on him. I'm not sure if this can be verified on your side.
If it's the case, may I then propose that the attacks on [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player] cease by 24th May, 0000hrs server time. It would be the weekend by then, and thus a good time for a reprieve for him. This will give AoO enough time to 'punish' him for his one and only attack, as well as time for the issue of a ceasefire to reach your members.
He would also be allowed to defend himself, but JDL will not support him in anyway during this period.
[player]ANIXEYTHS[/player], along with [player]tonik1985[/player], [player]chameras[/player], and [player]FaceMineWrath[/player] will send [player]Cosgrave[/player] the support troops as requested, and on top of it, I will send some resources over to help him rebuild. This will be done once the ceasefire starts.
As for [player]Inspiron1525[/player], we have yet to hear from him. Do allow us sometime to look into his case. Please also give us details of him being an instigator of war. As for him being a tribe hopper, I think that TW Stats is enough of an evidence. I'm not sure though what my dukes are going to do yet.
I know I'm driving a hard bargain, but I hope the compromise is agreeable. Especially so if all [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player] did was to respond to attacks on him in the first place.
For your consideration please.
Thank you.
chemeddy on 22.05. at 01:42
Hi!
[player]chameras[/player] just noticed 2 attack groups from [player]Rollocks[/player] coming his way. May I check what is his intention?
Regards
chemeddy
BlueMaxx on 22.05. at 02:23
You may.
chemeddy on 22.05. at 02:30
I mean do you know what he is doing? Has the ceasefire ordered reach him?
chemeddy on 22.05. at 04:30
Hi!
I have just been confirmed as the lead negotiator for this matter by my dukes, just so that Rollocks can be satisfied that whatever I say is with the support and permission of my tribe.
The counter-proposal has been rectified by the leaders. We will:
1) Kick [player]Inspiron1525[/player] for being a tribe-hopper and hence, untrustworthy.
2) Get [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player], along with [player]tonik1985[/player], [player]chameras[/player], and [player]FaceMineWrath[/player] to send [player]Cosgrave[/player]the support troops as requested. On top of it, I had already send some resources to him, and will be willing to consider further aid if he so request.
3) Request that the attacks on [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player] be stopped by 23rd May, 0000hrs. I'm bringing the ceasefire on him by a day in light of the attack on [player]chameras[/player]. However, I am willing to concede that there may be a some difficulty for the orders to reach everyone and thus request that if troops are sent in error, then a compensation in terms of resources be made. Also, there should be no further attack on any ex-VIRUS members of [ally]JDL[/ally] immediately.
4) Request that compensation be made to [player]chameras[/player] for the current attacks on him by Rollocks.
5) An alliance between the 2 tribes to seal this misunderstanding as a thing of the past, and to prevent further miscommunication in the future.
For your consideration please.
Thank you.
Chemeddy
BlueMaxx on 22.05. at 05:35
Take 2...the server is terrible this time of night.
I believe that I am on or close to the same page as you.
I had already posted in AoO forums that mercy will be shown to all ex-Virus members that belong to a tribe.
However, with regards to [player]ANIXEYTHS[/player], I had posted that he is free game until the 24th of May. This was your original request for a cease fire on him. If he is still around at that time he will be left alone.
I believe that Cosgrave is fine now and was only being attacked by a friend of Anixeyths. They have stopped now.
As for chameras, forward me any damage reports and I will look into repairs if needed. He should however, curb the rude remarks for future issues.
By the 24th of May, we may be able to kick back and crack open a cold one and form an alliance.
I trust I hit every issue...Inspiron1525 goes without saying.
---BlueMaxx
chemeddy on 22.05. at 05:46
That's great!
Will do then. I will concede the point about ANIXEYTHS. Till 24th of May then. But if I may boldly request, please tell your members to tone down the attacks on him, if they can help it.
I take it that no troops is needed for Cosgrave then?
Will censure chameras about his remarks, but I have to say that Rollocks was a little too conceited and condensing and had it coming.
Inspiron will go.
Looking forward to 24th May and the good times ahead then.
Cheers! =]
Chemeddy
BlueMaxx on 22.05. at 05:48
He isn't called the Lord of Mayhem for nothing.