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If your a normal user then yes you will get ads, this is so that the owners can pay for the server. servers are NOT cheap and cost a lot of money, a game like this is very server dependant and costs a lot of money to host. People who pay to play get to play without ads so if you dont like it become a premium player 
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i dont mind ads, but when my spyware blocker starts going ape-sheit that is when i have a problem.
is just the new skyscaper ads and the way they run is the problem.
and im not a damn newb. i know why ads are there. i was just showing the info from my spyware blocker so other people would know and maybe TW could do ads the right way without damaging peoples computers. like find an adsite that isnt earmarked as potential spyware containing site, or just host static iamges onsite so TW can control all the medium displayed so there is guaranteed no spyware.
ie sell ad space, not space for anything and everything to run. just images and links are the safest ads.
the iframe method currently used could have shockwave or other things that run malicious software on peoples computers.
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is just the new skyscaper ads and the way they run is the problem.
and im not a damn newb. i know why ads are there. i was just showing the info from my spyware blocker so other people would know and maybe TW could do ads the right way without damaging peoples computers. like find an adsite that isnt earmarked as potential spyware containing site, or just host static iamges onsite so TW can control all the medium displayed so there is guaranteed no spyware.
ie sell ad space, not space for anything and everything to run. just images and links are the safest ads.
the iframe method currently used could have shockwave or other things that run malicious software on peoples computers.
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DeletedUser137
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wouldnt it be better to just have your own server, they only cost $2,000 and you can rent out the rest of the bandwidth youre not using.
much cheeper in the long run
much cheeper in the long run
DeletedUser2
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the servers we need cost far more that 2000, and you would still have to pay for the traffic.
And no, it's not spyware, that are normal ads. I don't know why your blocker reacts to that. I will still have the designers take a look at it.
But shadzar, why don't you use the support system for that? I don't always read the forum and the support system is much faster for things like that.
And no, it's not spyware, that are normal ads. I don't know why your blocker reacts to that. I will still have the designers take a look at it.
But shadzar, why don't you use the support system for that? I don't always read the forum and the support system is much faster for things like that.
DeletedUser
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And why don't you use Firefox with the AdBlock extension. It works flawlessly on all the ads.
Although if you want to play the game without ads you should either pay for it or stop complaininng that you have problems blocking the ads.
Although if you want to play the game without ads you should either pay for it or stop complaininng that you have problems blocking the ads.
DeletedUser2
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ok, I've talked to him.
He said either your spywareblocker is malfunctioning or you've got an adblocker that reports every ad as spyware.
The ads (and companies) have been the same since we started TW, and we use the same companies for years in germany and there has never been a problem. It's quite unrealistic that two different companies "mess up" at the same moment.
You also seem to be the only person with that result.
He said either your spywareblocker is malfunctioning or you've got an adblocker that reports every ad as spyware.
The ads (and companies) have been the same since we started TW, and we use the same companies for years in germany and there has never been a problem. It's quite unrealistic that two different companies "mess up" at the same moment.
You also seem to be the only person with that result.
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hoodoo said:
i did use the support to notify the conflict it has with the back button for IE.
just wanted to warn others the results of my spyware blocker just in case.
as in the current situation and the way it is setup you do not have control over ANYTHING that is stuck in the skyscaper adspace.
my blocker is VERY tight. any site that has EVER had ad/spyware on it in the past is earmarked as a potential hazzard.
when you work with network security you tend to get into the mindset of better safe than sorry.
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if they no longer have spyware then the blocker will resolve that with the service and nobody should be at risk.
i jsut like to warn anyone on forums of potential spyware so they can prepare while the administration of the site checks into it and verifies it and fixes it, or finds that it is not problematic and that my spyware blocker is just a bit overprotective..
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i dont mind seeing ads as they pay for the site each time and ad is viewed, and pay more when one is clicked.milen243 said:
only have a problem with sites that have been known in the past to have been associated with a spyware problem.
i love the ads. i just think these google, and other things do it wrong.
TW should sell adspace, not subscribe to advertisers.
that way TW can control the ads and make sure none of its users are at risk of potential hazards.
only requires somone to set up the ads in the "sky" frame and the space to host the images for them.
very simple to do in PHP for novices...the creators of TW should easily be able to make an advertisement randomizer in PHP.
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DeletedUser2
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shadzar: we don't have the time to sign all ad's ourself.
Every single game site uses those companies, and mostly the same companies. That's the way it is.
You can't always control everything, but sometimes that's just the way it is.
Every single game site uses those companies, and mostly the same companies. That's the way it is.
You can't always control everything, but sometimes that's just the way it is.
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as i said i understand that. that is why i try to warn of potential risks.hoodoo said:
not ALL those companies are trustworthy. a lot are. some make mistake of letting in things that could be problematic and contain malicious software.
example...the google ads. google lets anyone advetise here that can pay for it. they set the rules for the ads and only allow text ads in this case.
the sckscraper ads direct to a PHP on another site which can run ANYTHING that PHP can do from cookies to deleting files on the hard drive, installing software, etc.
those are the most dangeous kinds that can be used. not your fault if they screw up. but they occasionally do.
is the danger of external ads in iframes or normal frame panes.
not accusing TW, just explaining my views on the matter.
allowing other people to think about it that view theses forums for a internet-wide concept of how the ads work and what they may do should they make there own sites and use ads.
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Is your advertising income based on how many people play the game or how many people click on the ads or a bit of both?
Also I didn't relise there were ads, till I read this post and started looking for them :lol:
Also I didn't relise there were ads, till I read this post and started looking for them :lol:
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shadzar said:
This is not true. A PHP Script on a server cannot delete files on the hard drive or install software.
You claim that www.apexwebgaming.com or www.directoryofads.com distribute spyware. I expect that you either prove this assertion or apologize for this assertion.
DeletedUser2
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Shadzar, what you should also not forget is that our developers have been doing this job for a long time now.
The german game is running for several years now.
There has never been a problem with anything like that. Not a single player has gotten a virus, worm or spyware through the game or had any data loss. We are not new to this topic and there is no reason to expect any problems with internet security from this game!
The german game is running for several years now.
There has never been a problem with anything like that. Not a single player has gotten a virus, worm or spyware through the game or had any data loss. We are not new to this topic and there is no reason to expect any problems with internet security from this game!
DeletedUser605
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Shadzar,
Most likely you have set your spyware blocker to block 3rd party redirects. Both the www.apexwebgaming.com and www.directoryofads.com contain button (logo) redirects to the respective ads site. These redirects do not happen unless you click on the ad, but some (aggressive) spyware blockers misinterpret these as redirects and block them as well.
www.apexwebgaming.com and www.directoryofads.com both are in business to sell ads and it is not in their best interest to spread viruses, trojans or tracking software. Both companies tend to be fairly aggressive in ensuring proper coding of the banner ads. Believe me, word travels fast when companies start spreading malware around :icon_wink:
I truely doubt we have much to be concerned about in this case.
Most likely you have set your spyware blocker to block 3rd party redirects. Both the www.apexwebgaming.com and www.directoryofads.com contain button (logo) redirects to the respective ads site. These redirects do not happen unless you click on the ad, but some (aggressive) spyware blockers misinterpret these as redirects and block them as well.
www.apexwebgaming.com and www.directoryofads.com both are in business to sell ads and it is not in their best interest to spread viruses, trojans or tracking software. Both companies tend to be fairly aggressive in ensuring proper coding of the banner ads. Believe me, word travels fast when companies start spreading malware around :icon_wink:
I truely doubt we have much to be concerned about in this case.
DeletedUser
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excuse me?exception said:
the proof is in the first post.
you can see exactly the log my spyware blocker gave when the only website i visited for the day had been TW.
if you dont like it, then you sort it out with the people who make and track problems from ad companies.
i dont make spyware blockers, i use what find online....so someone must have reported problems with them or else mine wouldnt have them set to block.
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also note that your ad_sky.php has an inline frame or IFRAME tag. this links to various things online.
now the PHP script can find the IP address of the requester of the site which is the user viewing the page that has the ad on it.
then the PHP script can place cookies on the computer that will activate other things when requested.
it doesnt have to be done by the PHP on TW. but ANYTHING can be on the page that the IFRAME is pointed at.
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DeletedUser2
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Alright, if you don't want to understand it, then we can't help you.
There is nothing wrong with the sites and a malfuncioning spyware blocker is no proof.
I'll close this because everything is said and it's really useless to discuss this anymore.
There is nothing wrong with the sites and a malfuncioning spyware blocker is no proof.
I'll close this because everything is said and it's really useless to discuss this anymore.
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