Part of the Furniture
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Oooh. The evidence game.
Gladly! Evidence only proves the truth.
You say we knew a long time before the alliance with Munch about a merge. We heard rumours...from people like you, who we didn't trust. So we did information digging. Every conversation we had, I only bothered having to get a bit more information. That isn't the same as 'knowing' something. But anyway...let's look at the first time it was mentioned by Munch.
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Oh look, the alliance was agreed on the 30th June. And...the very next evening, they mention this:
"So run, it's looking like we will agree on a merge"
We removed Munch leaders from the diplomacy chat specifically to stop things like that being deleted. As it's rather incriminating.
The screenshot I sent earlier showed you had said you knew for many weeks. This screenshot is less than a month before mine. As I say, I don't have yours and munch leadership chats, but they attest to the fact. While the war didn't break out till several months later anyway. It was before the border agreement. Something you said it was not.
In terms of when we disliked Run - and how you caused that (though of course, I'm sure these screenshots must be fabricated as part of my web of lies). I've always been clear on that. You bragging to the world about 'you making Cicada to go to war with JheeeZ' was the moment when we decided Run was going to be next on the list. That was back in...what...April?
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This was from before I took over Run, when Sword thought I was spying (many many players were accused of it back then). Back in April. I took over 1 May. What had happened, and myself and sword spoke of it later, is that it wasn't that I was saying that it was entirely me, only that the timing was impacted by me. Which is what I already said in my previous post. It was in an attempt to persuade sword that I wasn't somehow acting for jheez, which she assumed because I came from Jheez (after I jumped continent when they tried internalling me).
So you interpreted information that you were given that was not true. But given we spoke regularly at that point, why did you never bring it up?
Here's a conversation - about you - before the word 'merge' ever came up. Again, making it clear how we felt. It also mentions that time when you decided to work directly for JheeeZ, telling your tribe to open fire on Warpig, who had diplomacy with us. Which really didn't go down well, as you will no doubt remember.
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In order to focus Pain we needed Jheez not to be fighting us, as we would have been very easily removed from the world had Jheez attacked us. I therefore made every attempt to stop that from happening. That caused some in Munch some trepidation, as was somewhat reasonable for some to believe. They wanted an insurance policy, which makes sense.
This was in August when we had started fighting and taking caps of Jheez, and was the point when you started to try to construct this weird obsession you have with me in order to declare on Munch.
Regarding your conversation with DaWolf, I'm pretty certain he was saying what we expected when we opened fire. Nothing about Cicada council's decision-making of who to go to war with. Context is king, and that is certainly out of context. But I can give you the reason behind that statement. We had seen Munch:
- Start a war with Pain and then recruit a significant amount of them (it is ironic that they then make Disuniter out to be a 'traitor' when they have numerous people who were warring them in their tribe - but to each their own)
- Open fire on SPAM as they disbanded, once they were losing significantly in their war.
- Open fire on JheeeZ after Voyage said that they would delete if that happens. And after JheeeZ began to lose villages to Cicada and have key players quit.
Have posted the screenshot to show that's not true.
Nothing you posted disproved what I did in any way, it just showed what I was saying was true in some desperate attempt to disparage me personally, which is low. The fact is, you only started to create this vendetta against me from August, when for months you had known about the merge. Even if it was fair game for you to have a vendetta against me, I had told you I had stepped down from leadership, and offered for my account to be internallled given I was playing W115.
Given that was the case, not only was what you say not true, your argument doesn't even make any sense.
So lets finally just admit what happened, you had to choose which of your two allies to war, and you decided to make me the scapegoat in order to break it with Munch. Unfortunately it wasn't really a perfect reason and didn't make much sense with me not even in the leadership or world, but you ran with it, and have ever since.