Bahaha I love hekkie leave him out of this
I was a member of beast, so of course I would talk positively about my tribe, why would I go around being negative about my own tribe?
The advice was a few different things. When code shat the bed and ODZ wanted diplo with us if they got 100% of code, I told fred we should let them take code for the same reasons we wanted 100% of Para. Fred disagreed and wanted a portion of Code's villages and ODZ was nice enough, after breaking code, to let us take like 200 something villages. I posted the list ODZ agreed with and told people to stick to it. People kept nobling villages outside of the list which pissed ODZ off, Fred didnt want to enforce the list and give the 20 something villages back to ODZ because ODZ didnt have diplomacy discussions with him immediately after the deal was made. Not giving those villages back along with literally telling ODZ leadership to piss off obviously pissed ODZ off more. Then Themis starts nuking and recapping them lol apparently with Fred's permission.
All of this was diplomatic suicide that could have been avoided if they listened to me and recognized that war with ODZ, on top of Drama/chaos/order/100, would be the death of Beast. But they didnt listen so here we are. C'est la vie.