Lies, Greed, Misery
A DSy4 Production
Act 1: Recruitment
We here at DSy4 considered bAd to be a respectable tribe. They were bordering us, sure, but they had a nice low member count, a respectable leader, and had made no aggressive moves toward us. We were even fighting the same enemy, ACE. We were not in any way considering war an immediate possibility.
Then things changed. bAd recruited much of ACE, including one player we were preparing to hit, and several players who had been hitting us recently. Then we found out they had given leadership positions to players from ACE, and allied the remainder of ACE. Needless to say, we were pretty pissed off. But we engaged in discussion with bAd, hoping to get at least a small step back, and avoid war.
[12/9/2013 13:08:24] Repinski: At the very least, we need you guys to kick Mikhails
[12/9/2013 13:08:58] Repinski: That's someone we can't accept you recruiting. He's been nailing our guys for a while, and just when we were in a position to strike him, you picked him up
[12/9/2013 20:24:18] Frankie (Gogg): okay , so after discussing , sitting mikhails acc and considering the situation. He will not be leaving bAd.
Okay, so that’s no step back. Cool. We contacted the previous duke of bAd, Aubreys Pirate Crew, and they expressed their desire to be internaled by us rather than bAd. So we recruited them and started internaling. Trickster also was interested in this. But then, something unexpected happened.
[11:22:27 PM] Mason(Trickster-): Hey we have actually been given duke so we will be sticking here
Hey, we’re friendly with him, we can maybe get bAd to take a step back and not have to go to war. Sounds good, right?
[12/13/2013 21:14:25] Spencer | Darkeh: Trick, I suggest you send a circ to those members of your tribe you feel are worth keeping and tell them how it is. Explain how bAd has no real leader and you do not want to do it. Explain that DSy4 are willing to look at and consider a group application from them, and that you feel that is best and explain why. And let them know that the only other alternatives are someone else steps up and leads or you just quit and leave them to fend for themselves.
[12/13/2013 21:15:05] Mason(Trickster-): I did that already
[12/13/2013 21:15:13] Mason(Trickster-): They said let's war Dsy4
...well then.
Act 2: Interlude
I'mma be that nail in your coffin
Sayin' that I softened
I was duckin' down to reload
[12/13/2013 21:07:12] Mason(Trickster-): You will attack us before or after ACE so it doesn't matter... I would rather not die alongside them though
[12/13/2013 21:07:30] Spencer | Darkeh: We have no reason to attack you if you kick ACE
So you can save your petty explanations
I don't have the patience
Before you even say it I know
[12/14/2013 16:00:32] Spencer | Darkeh: Because we used to respect you enough to want you on our side.
[12/14/2013 16:00:58] Mason(Trickster-): Yeah I understand
[12/14/2013 16:01:02] Mason(Trickster-): but things have changed
You let your pride or your ego
Talk slick to me, no
That is not the way I get down
[12/13/2013 19:42:56] Mason(Trickster-): gonna kick ACE/PTT
[12/13/2013 20:37:20] Spencer | Darkeh: I'm getting the feeling you're either lying to us, or aren't really in control of bAd
And look at how you lose your composure
Now let me show you
Exactly how the breaking point sounds
[12/14/2013 17:13:30] Andy (DaWolf85): You had a lot of choices. This was one of the worst. Enjoy your fate.
I wanna see you choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/15/2013 21:22:29] Andy (DaWolf85): The fact is, you had to recruit because you couldn't eat them
[12/15/2013 21:22:40] Andy (DaWolf85): What do you think that says about your chances in a war with us?
Choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/14/2013 17:10:57] Andy (DaWolf85): Just don't forget, we gave you a chance
What is it you want me to tell you
I am not the failure
I would rather live and let be
[12/14/2013 01:33:21] Mason(Trickster-): if I was to kick the ACE players, would you guys consider diplo with us? I think you mentioned an NAP?
[12/14/2013 01:35:01] Andy (DaWolf85): Can't guarantee anything, but we would at least consider it
But you came with the right kind of threat to
Push me to let you
Know you can't intimidate me
[12/13/2013 21:08:55] Spencer | Darkeh: If anyone here is looking like they're going to attack anyone, bAd sure as hell looks like you're preparing to declare war on us
[12/13/2013 21:09:10] Spencer | Darkeh: And stalling like mad by promising things you have no intention of delivering
You disrespect me so clearly
Now you better hear me
That is not the way it goes down
[12/13/2013 21:02:41] Spencer | Darkeh: You have been saying you were going to kick these players for two days now
[12/13/2013 21:02:46] Spencer | Darkeh: Always tomorrow
[12/13/2013 21:03:09] Spencer | Darkeh: Quite frankly, I have very little trust in anything you say anymore
You did it to yourself and it's over
Now let me show you
Exactly how the breaking point sounds
[12/15/2013 21:21:20] Mason(Trickster-): So why would we let you eat them?
[12/15/2013 21:21:36] Andy (DaWolf85): Well if you weren't a SHIT TRIBE you'd be able to eat them too
I wanna see you choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/16/2013 10:05:35] Repinski: Oh are we one duke 4 in the same week now?
[12/16/2013 10:05:46] Repinski: Come on guys 3 more and you'll have a new one each day!
[12/16/2013 10:05:53] Repinski: You can do it!
[12/16/2013 10:05:56] Repinski: I believe in you!
Choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/15/2013 21:22:14] Andy (DaWolf85): We didn't have sole rights to eat them
[12/15/2013 21:22:21] Andy (DaWolf85): We were always willing to let you eat them
[12/15/2013 21:22:29] Andy (DaWolf85): The fact is, you had to recruit because you couldn't eat them
[12/15/2013 21:22:40] Andy (DaWolf85): What do you think that says about your chances in a war with us?
I wanna see you choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/16/2013 00:00:03] Andy (DaWolf85): Just sit down, shut the hell up, and stack your front.
[12/16/2013 00:02:24] Repinski: pretty sure they already started that last bit Andy :x
[12/16/2013 00:02:43] Andy (DaWolf85): Idk, they seem pretty incompetent
[12/16/2013 00:02:52] Andy (DaWolf85): Sure, they've probably sent out a circ
[12/16/2013 00:03:05] Andy (DaWolf85): how many have responded? 2? maybe even a whole 5?
Choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/12/2013 23:42:24] Mason(Trickster-): I dont wanna fight for the ACE players
[12/12/2013 23:42:27] Mason(Trickster-): I would rather quit than fight [for] them
You did it to yourself
[12/12/2013 23:47:24] Spencer | Darkeh: ACE must all be kicked. Had we been consulted beforehand and asked if we agreed with letting them go, we'd probably have said yes. But the way in which they were recruited has insured we do not want to see them in bAd. That said, they can make their case to rep directly, and again, I'll make sure he listens.
You did it to yourself
[12/12/2013 23:48:03] Mason(Trickster-): Lord Terrorist is the only one I want to keep honestly
[12/12/2013 23:49:27] Repinski: Hang on, if you want LT, I have a condition
[12/12/2013 23:50:06] Repinski: You can have LT, but the guy next to him is completely ours to noble. Muralideva
[12/12/2013 23:51:03] Mason(Trickster-): I could agree to that
[12/12/2013 23:51:44 | Edited 23:51:49] Repinski: that seems like a reasonable trade off
[12/12/2013 23:51:53] Repinski: that area was two guys
[12/12/2013 23:52:00] Repinski: you want one, we get full rights to the other
You did it to yourself
[12/12/2013 23:52:29] Repinski: I'm still hoping you nubs get a group app going
[12/12/2013 23:53:04] Mason(Trickster-): how would we do a group app exactly?
[12/12/2013 23:53:29] Repinski: Compile a list of people for the group recruitment, we look into everyone, etc
[12/12/2013 23:53:37] Repinski: we take all or none
You did it to yourself
[12/13/2013 00:05:30] Mason(Trickster-): gonna kick them momentarily
[12/13/2013 00:07:58] Mason(Trickster-): give me a sec
[12/13/2013 00:08:01] Mason(Trickster-): getting the kicks ready
[12/13/2013 00:50:03] Mason(Trickster-): hey guys I have to go to bed and I wanna explain what is happening to the tribe
[12/13/2013 00:50:09] Mason(Trickster-): so Im gonna kick them tomorrow when I get home from school
[12/13/2013 00:52:04] Mason(Trickster-): we will give them a week without attacks
You did it to yourself
[12/13/2013 19:41:12] Mason(Trickster-): Good news
[12/13/2013 19:41:19] Mason(Trickster-): bringing back the old bAd
[12/13/2013 19:42:29] Spencer | Darkeh: By mass recruiting more PTT? :^)
[12/13/2013 19:42:37] Mason(Trickster-): YES
[12/13/2013 19:42:38] Mason(Trickster-): lol
[12/13/2013 19:42:39] Mason(Trickster-): nah
[12/13/2013 19:42:44] Mason(Trickster-): that was a mistake
[12/13/2013 19:42:47] Mason(Trickster-): but
[12/13/2013 19:42:52] Mason(Trickster-): got a couple old guys coming back
[12/13/2013 19:42:54] Spencer | Darkeh: Seems to be a lot of mistakes going on over there
You did it to yourself
[12/13/2013 21:07:30] Spencer | Darkeh: We have no reason to attack you if you kick ACE
[12/13/2013 21:07:43] Spencer | Darkeh: We had a mutual respect with bAd before Gogg pulled this bullshit out of his ass
[12/13/2013 21:07:54] Spencer | Darkeh: And yet you seem to be hellbent on continuing the bullshit
[12/13/2013 21:08:05] Spencer | Darkeh: You are capped at 40 members and have been duke for two days
[12/13/2013 21:08:17] Spencer | Darkeh: You could have withdrawn invites, stopped sending them, kicked players, whatever
[12/13/2013 21:08:28] Spencer | Darkeh: You have chosen to not do any of that
You did it to yourself
[12/14/2013 01:56:55] Andy (DaWolf85): Look, so here are your two options.
1. Kick the ACE members. We will be willing to negotiate a NAP, although I can't guarantee it will be a favorable one. We won't have any problem with you eating the former ACE.
2. Don't kick the ACE members. I keep writing my declaration.
I recognize that you don't have any great options here, and for that I apologize. But there's only so far I can go to offer you a way out of the hole your tribe has dug itself.
You did it to yourself
[12/14/2013 15:37:32] Mason(Trickster-): Hey guys. Im letting CDN run the show
[12/14/2013 15:37:35] Mason(Trickster-): whatever he wants will go
[12/14/2013 15:37:46] Mason(Trickster-): so you guys need to talk to him about whatever issues you have
[12/14/2013 15:40:50] Spencer | Darkeh: I take that as a "we're not kicking those players, and you guys can go screw yourselfs"
[12/14/2013 15:42:18] Mason(Trickster-): I tried honestly
[12/14/2013 15:42:39] Mason(Trickster-): but the council was against it
[12/14/2013 15:42:47] Mason(Trickster-): and Im not gonna go against them
[12/14/2013 15:42:52] Mason(Trickster-): eat the ACE players if you want
[12/14/2013 15:43:25] Spencer | Darkeh: We don't do things halfway
[12/14/2013 15:43:37] Spencer | Darkeh: If we determine that we have an interest in eating those ACE players, we will simply declare.
I wanna see you choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/15/2013 21:13:07] Repinski: Duke always has final say
[12/15/2013 21:13:16] Repinski: You chose not to do what was best for your tribe.
[12/15/2013 21:13:24] Repinski: Don't blame others for YOUR failure.
[12/15/2013 21:14:12] Repinski: Sure you didn't cause the problem, but you could have solved the problem. You chose not to because you don't have a spine when it comes to upsetting others.
Choke on your lies
Swallow up your greed
Suffer all alone in your misery
[12/16/2013 00:00:03] Andy (DaWolf85): You can't recruit our food and expect us to give you an option where everything's all fine and dandy again
If we do that then everyone recruits our food - a line has to be drawn in the sand, to say, "If you do this there will be consequences" and that is what we have done.
And I'll note we've given you something a lot closer to an option where everything's all fine and dandy again than a lot of tribes would have. We were willing to engage in diplomatic discussions with you guys, even after a massive incident like this. We were willing to take in many of your players. We gave you two reasonable options - if not great options, not absolutely horrible ones, either. Instead you chose war (after much flip-flopping and breaking of promises I might add), and you're now attempting to blame us for this choice.
Just sit down, shut the hell up, and stack your front.
Fight well.
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