The last declaration

Endemonadia

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you guys can sugar coat your loss any way you like. cover it in the sprinkles of your delusional imaginations of what has transpired throughout the war and do whatever you like with it. when the world comes to an end you know whats going to be seen?

I dont see anyone here trying to 'sugar coat' the plight loss.... ive been everyones critic in W16 on both sides. Ive never been afraid to criticise anyone and any tribe. C2 have always been the best tribe, especially since their launch on HRV.

I think u will find the criticisms against C2 are all factual, there was an incident of a player lying about RL issues in public, fact (Monsterbros rather mjessy posting reminds us of that lol). U can try to dress it up and pretend its irrelevant as much as u like but whether u like it or not its gonna stain your otherwise excellent win of W16.

c2 had the best leadership of w16. c2 had the best organization of w16. c2 had the best players of w16. c2 had the most skill of w16. and plight...well plight had the best imagination of w16.

Totally agree...

And i think u will find everyone else this side of the map will agree... so whats your problem? And your point?
 

DeletedUser78416

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Endemonadia said:
ive been everyones critic in W16 on both sides. Ive never been afraid to criticise anyone and any tribe. C2 have always been the best tribe, especially since their launch on HRV.

Just wanted to point out...So that everyone is aware:

Ende is allowed to criticize any and everyone (see above), but when others do it (me), it is rude and obnoxious. :icon_rolleyes:

Usually with critics though, like movie critics...they at least watch the movie they are criticizing...even if you don't agree with their review.

Since you aren't a participant in the war, nor have you planned on being one, you should refrain from criticizing the #1 tribe on w16...(it kinda looks like brown nosing) :lol:
 

haza teh great

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Just wanted to point out...So that everyone is aware:

Ende is allowed to criticize any and everyone (see above), but when others do it (me), it is rude and obnoxious. :icon_rolleyes:

Usually with critics though, like movie critics...they at least watch the movie they are criticizing...even if you don't agree with their review.

Since you aren't a participant in the war, nor have you planned on being one, you should refrain from criticizing the #1 tribe on w16...(it kinda looks like brown nosing) :lol:

so he has sent attacks, support and shared intel with us but still isn't participating.... good to know :icon_rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser58923

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ende i wasnt referring to anything you said. it was to the people saying that some of their ops ONLY failed because of spies intel and crap like that. making excuses for why they didnt work, thats to where my comments were directed.

i aint quoting anything because frankly i dont care about this enough to, its one page back anyways
 

haza teh great

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ende i wasnt referring to anything you said. it was to the people saying that some of their ops ONLY failed because of spies intel and crap like that. making excuses for why they didnt work, thats to where my comments were directed.

i aint quoting anything because frankly i dont care about this enough to, its one page back anyways

we know that they didnt fail only because of that, its simply another factor added on
 

Endemonadia

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ende i wasnt referring to anything you said. it was to the people saying that some of their ops ONLY failed because of spies intel and crap like that. making excuses for why they didnt work, thats to where my comments were directed.

I think ur right Gamecat, i would tend to agree that if there was a spy or not was not the deciding factor in whether an op was sucessful or not. In Dust we knew wehad a couple of spies and that LS and HRV were using that intel so we just developed a method to work our way round it, and that worked fine. Spies are part of the game and a decent tribe should have mechanisms in place to counter that... however, im not saying if there was a spy or not in this case cos frankly i dont know :icon_neutral:


Since you aren't a participant in the war, nor have you planned on being one, you should refrain from criticizing the #1 tribe on w16...(it kinda looks like brown nosing) :lol:


Errrrrm ive consistently agreed with and publicly stated my opinions on C2 and they havent changed my position one bit thank you very much. Ever since they declared on HRV, i never ever had any issue with the way they 'jumped' HRV, i said at the time and i will say for your benefit that this is a war game and if HRV were niave enough not to have defenses in place on every border then more fool them. In fact ive said their attack was fine, exactly how i would plan it in a war game. I seem to remember u being the loudest mouth shouting about how bad and underhanded, traitorous the C2 cheats were with that act of attack... the word hypocrite sticks well and truly to your forehead yet again...
 

DeletedUser78416

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so he has sent attacks, support and shared intel with us but still isn't participating.... good to know :icon_rolleyes:

To who, to who and about what?

Selectively attacking, sending support to very few and having intel about probably nothing of importance isn't really what I was referring to

I'd half way shut up if I knew he attacked C²'s core front line, supported any core Plight players on the fronts now (that includes players from previous tribes) or had any kind of information that lead to a positive operation...

Whilst in LSHRV, our leadership at the time, actually accepted the fact that Ende refused to support HRV players (see the definition of holding grudge) and they were ok with that :icon_eek:

I mean seriously? That in of itself is the sole reason I was for vanquishing the inactive. It wasn't because I simply didn't like anybody, I don't really dislike anybody on here except Ende...it was because they weren't helping out those up front who needed it.

I guess I'll just have to find out the hard way where his support is...and make it poof! :icon_twisted:

And Ende, once again, you remember incorrectly as usual. The original Zvone pitched quite the fit about it being traitorous and underhanded. I was the proponent of not sugar coating the whole thing and just coming out and saying what your (C²'s) true intentions were...which were to seek and destroy. I too could not care less about proper declarations, waiting 24 hours, etc. even though I would do them on occasion. Like yours, that I did, was just for fun. The main factor I bagged on was =HRV= was well over 50% inactive at the time and unprepared...against the top tribe, that is a monumental task to overcome, and it never was overcome. Besides, C² already know I was just angry and sticking up for my tribemates. Thats what a good tribemate does, albeit a better tribemate does it on the playing field, hint hint.

Besides, I was just pointing out the double standard of yours, yet again, that you are allowed to criticize without repercussion, but when I do it, it is considered rude and obnoxious. That is all. Carry on.
 

DeletedUser58923

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we know that they didnt fail only because of that, its simply another factor added on

was refering mainly to this haza:

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LOL we all know why you guys stopped us on the Christmas op do i have remind you that amberor was account sitting someone in MK so he got all the info

i could have misinterpreted it, but to me it sounds as if he implies the sole reason we were able to successfully defend ourselves were because of that incident. when you, sir haza, should know and be able to express how annoying we can be in defending villages :D

most should know theres people i respect in plight, and i have good friends over there, after all i played with some of them for very long time, and when i refer to plight as a whole, im not directing that to every member, its just easier to say plight than it is to go through and name every player.

I think ur right Gamecat, i would tend to agree that if there was a spy or not was not the deciding factor in whether an op was sucessful or not. In Dust we knew wehad a couple of spies and that LS and HRV were using that intel so we just developed a method to work our way round it, and that worked fine. Spies are part of the game and a decent tribe should have mechanisms in place to counter that... however, im not saying if there was a spy or not in this case cos frankly i dont know :icon_neutral:

agreed aswell. here at c2 im not sure if we have ever had an issue with someone spying. granted ive only brought our carnival to the carnage a year ago, but nonetheless, ive never heard any stories of any spies, and boy have i heard some stories :D. if plight/mk had spy problems, they should have been ready for it. especially at the stage of the game its at, if it did happen (not saying it didnt cause i honestly have no clue either) they should have been ready.

and if i remember correctly plight uses an off site noble planner. used to anyways. dont know if emily let them continue using it though, and if you are still using it, wouldnt spies have a difficult time deciphering what villages you were targetting?:icon_rolleyes:
 
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DeletedUser911

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Unfortunately you will find that, next to loosing our activity, we have lost most of our capable PnPers some time ago. Sadly it seems to a tribalwars wide problem as i cannot remember the level of pnp being in such an abyssal state.
Tho that is a completely different topic.

MK, i am a sure your apologies are well intended tho completely unnecessary.
Whilst no-one will argue that a C² victory is a valid probability, a defeat of Euthanasia is impossible.



Any single time you manage to best one of ours, your are actually helping us fulfill our goal.

Indeed Qoffee, though ignorance to this victory principle must continually rear its ugly head, Euthanasia finds everyone someday: one way another it will find them. You just can't kill death itself.

(many don't realize that--despite labels--they are really on the team of Euthanasia).
 

DeletedUser911

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...Way to go, Plight, already with the low tactics of kicking for stat padding...

Players who are inactive should simply be kicked when they are not planning on returning. I don't know whether Plight follows such principles anymore, but I never looked kindly to those in authority who had the desire to hold onto dead accounts in the tribe merely so that no one else would attack the player. Paper tigers always bothered me: I prefer real blood and gore when I conquer (rather than the taste of empty paper).:axemen:
 

DeletedUser78416

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Not only do you bump a fairly active thread with posts that are older than dirt, you do so talking about real blood and gore, while booting inactives from the tribe instead of having active members grow from them...

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adamjrose2

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In Defense of Socrates he has nothing to do with Plight anymore and I am sure he would be ashamed to see what his dream of Plight has become, at least in regards to the tribe he helped to bring to prominence.
 

DeletedUser78416

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In Defense of Socrates he has nothing to do with Plight anymore and I am sure he would be ashamed to see what his dream of Plight has become, at least in regards to the tribe he helped to bring to prominence.

Thats true. He does stand by the term euthanasia, after all he even euthanized himself. :lol:
 

crazyplayer4

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just to throw *crap in the water here... but isnt there usually carnage that will lead to euthanasia?

can you have one without the other?

~warning next part is simply words from a "crazy"player~

... "2012" of W16 might just be the day that one of those 2 listed above seize to exist :icon_eek:
 

DeletedUser78416

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just to throw *crap in the water here... but isnt there usually carnage that will lead to euthanasia?

can you have one without the other?

~warning next part is simply words from a "crazy"player~

... "2012" of W16 might just be the day that one of those 2 listed above seize to exist :icon_eek:

No, what's crazy is the irony of the meaning behind euthanasia...not even mentioning that Plight (in the past) has misrepresented its definition.

Im paraphrasing, but something along the lines of, "We wish to euthanize those who spend too much time playing this game, etc..."

But if one were to delve into that statement, you'd uncover a few inaccuracies. 1) You'd have to actually play more than someone who plays too much, to eliminate them from the game, thus making yourself one needing to be euthanized; and if you yourself need to be euthanized, the statement then simply becomes a redundant hypocritical nonsensical mess.

That's like having a group named Green Peace, whose goal is to say stop rain forests from being cut down, yet they all go out back and chop down trees to make sign posts for their protests. Doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

Euthanasia to me, should be defined a bit differently then the current real life definition. Putting people 'out of their misery' for doing the same thing you are doing (playing tribal wars) through the same means as they are doing (playing tribal wars), really should have more of a genocide feel, to be honest. Just my opinion. If I were to give a mission statement about my tribe, and it was named euthanasia, it surely wouldn't be a definition that actively involves my own members being ousted from the game. It would be that we are here to perform a mass genocide and euthanize all opposition.

But again, just my opinion.
 

brymon

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The ends justify the means.

Aaanyway, is this war still going, or what? I played world 16 a long time ago before I had to go away, my tribe actually had a bit of a scuffle with plight back in the day :lol: How's it going? Any stats, or is there a ceasefire?

The map surprised me. The world is completely and clearly divided in two. Well played, I suppose this is the end game war.
 

DeletedUser78416

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:lol: , sorry...couldn't help myself :icon_razz:

His pac man pattern is as follows:

-Send ram fake scout attacks in series of 3-4 attacks from the same village
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-Scout one of my villages eleventy billion times
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-Gets the reports...seeing troops out
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-Sends nobles escorted with small amounts of defensive troops anyways...:icon_rolleyes:
-they die, he repeats
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-If his nobles keep dying, he sends in cats instead.
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Now that the majority of the small barbs I took and was building (which is what he has been taking) are almost gone, here shortly they will all have to pay in order to get the rest. :icon_cool:

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u6s5l.

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Players who are inactive should simply be kicked when they are not planning on returning. I don't know whether Plight follows such principles anymore, but I never looked kindly to those in authority who had the desire to hold onto dead accounts in the tribe merely so that no one else would attack the player. Paper tigers always bothered me: I prefer real blood and gore when I conquer (rather than the taste of empty paper).:axemen:

I agree, having players along isn't always a good thing, but at this point Plight can't afford to kick all those bad players...nor the ones who don't plan on returning. As previously stated, this Plight is leas than a shadow of the old, with fewer original Plight players than ever, and the reins not in the hands of a former enemy of Plight, if memory serves. But my memory is a bit faulty, so I apologize if I'm wrong.

Regardless, Plight kicking those players would probably put it below the activity it had when it warred itself while warring ORC and the like, and with far less skilled players as well (excepting the few I've seen put up a great fight, like haza).
 
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