The new guys: The ones that joined late summer and afterwards. The ones that ran to the PKs to hide under the banner of PKs and LFKD. The ones that wouldn't be around or feared otherwise.
I'll reply to this as it specifically includes me in your incredibly bold statement with many underlying assumptions.
I never thought that you were so presumptious Arghos, particularly since Apothesis has had a pretty good deal of respect (and this goes both ways) for both the PKs and the former leaders of EA.
Your post goes under the assumption that members inducted into the PKs did so because they were being persecuted, indicated by "hiding under the banner."
First and foremost,
no inductee will
ever become a member of the PKs if he has fleeing
anything, whether that be an actual war, attack or simply an argument with a past tribal lover.
Your post specifically singled out those who joined in late summer and on (August). Out of these players (37 players), 4 of them joined and left. This will not be forgotten by the way.
Out of the 33 remaining new members, 10 came from the Elite Alliance within a timeframe of 3 days (only because Ben took his sweet time getting over, trying to set everything up for EA so they had leaders in place). That's 1/3rd of the population you accused of "hiding" behind the PKs; clearly this was partly aimed at us.
As I remember, Apothesis and the Elite Alliance were not too friendly in the early days. I remember the fear of attack being instilled in both tribes, I was part of the (or actually almost the entire) diplomatic effort to push this to a peaceful solution. Tribes were drafted for each side of the war, and it was clear that there was one probably solution: ~=A=~ conquers 73 and EA conquers 74 during a long drawn out war if we aren't overcome by another tribe in the meantime.
I doubt any member of Apothesis didn't think twice about the EA member right next to him.
But of course, we are not talking about EA. We're talking about the members of EA that switched to the PKs... the members that
would not be around otherwise.
Let me list these for you (the positions were either current positions or past positions indicative of their tribal status):
NashSolox: Duke
jzhen071: Duke
Penix: Baron
adyyblank: Baron
Kralle90: Baron
kiwanis: Baron
KingBenX: Eastern K74 attack coordinator, member of elite K74 task force
seven.dj: Western K74 attack coordinator, diplomat, member of elite K74 task force
Gothdn: Member of elite K74 task force
Zoahr: Member of elite K74 task force
Out of these 10 players, 8 of them were the ONLY people in EA allowed to view the hidden forums (thus the "leaders"). These are the guys that called the shots, who were backed up by the entire tribe. Surely, they would still be "around" as EA is STILL in the top15.
As for your accusation that we chose to "hide" under the PKs. That's an extremely bold statement Arghos, and I'm quite eager to hear your reasoning behind it.
None of the leadership of EA were happy with what EA had become. EA had been literally divided into several sections, each run with their own little "leaders". While coordination was possible, it was nearly completely absent when K75 & K74 leaders requested support from K73, K72 & K63. This was one of the larger reasons of the HOLY war delay.
Those who ran EA (or rather, those who ran K74 & 75 and had the sole access to hidden forums) decided they needed something better than EA. (I think we can all agree that in terms of larger tribes in the top15, EA is one of the worst with the most SIM players - this was true back then too). Initially, there was the thought of completely disbanding K72 & other extraneous continents from the tribe. A merger with SCI & Apothesis was on the horizon, but fell through - that was probably the best idea and would have certainly kept the ELITE of the elite alliance within the tribe.
Regardless, these members in K74 & 75 were always in close communication with Cyborg7 & Bongofury. This issue of our dissent within the Elite Alliance came up, and a solution was easily apparent. The merger with SCI & ~=A=~ was going nowhere, and it would be much easier to coordinate attacks with Cyborg & Bongo if we were in the same tribe... therefore, the solution smacked us in the face.
We EA member leaders have always fought together and ran the tribe together. Surely we wanted to stick together, and the PKs were kind enough to allow that to occur. They certainly have profited by it...
Since these members have been inducted into the tribe, they have amassed a total of:
384 additional villages.
That's equivalent to 64 villages per week.
Equivalent to 9 villages per day.
Equivalent to 38.4 villages per person.
Keep in mind that Kiwanis didn't join until recently and could only contribute a little. Paired with Nashsolo just getting whomped on in the past couple weeks, the two do a good job at pulling down our averages here...
Clearly we prove our worth & could not have possibly just disappeared had we not joined the PKs.
As our elite task force made up 33 % of the population you accused of hiding and needing protection of a great tribe, I felt it necessary to set you straight on why we chose the PKs. I mean let's look at the tribes around us, we have EA, the PKs and Apothesis. Should there never have been a Cyborg or Bongo right next to us, fighting alongside us... the switch to the PKs surely would never have happened, and you might have seen ME in the Apothesis tribe.
However, that's another dream.
As for the INCREDIBLY long essay I just wrote, I apologize. However, should anyone ever feel the need to question why ALL of the Elite leaders left EA, here is the
short version. Of course, there's another 6 pages of other reasons...
