orionlukas
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Hi,
[If you are not a real life member of US Armed Services could you please refer this to the one you might know and have them read it, I'd appreciate it a lot.]
thanks for your help. Too keep it as short as possible; my villages are being attacked by two players, "Rupert" and "Cornelius". "Fight Club" names are used to protect their privacy.
The emails you gonna read are real.
"Rupert" is a real life US Marine who is deploying for Afghanistan, "Cornelius" is seemingly just a teenage boy, most probably from United Kingdom. Although our tribes are at war and "Rupert" is our in-game enemy, he wished us goodbye as he is a Personal Ally of one of my tribe members, and they knew each other from way back.
So...
Here is "Rupert's" goodbye email.
[spoil]
Right.
Now all of a sudden "Rupert", who has allegedly quit, starts attacking us.
What we do know is that "Cornelius" is account sitting him and other way around, so when one guy is sleeping and away the other guy is sitting his account. As per this email when "Cornelius" sent to my other tribe member, also a Personal Ally of his own, lets call him "X":
[spoil]
Ok, so we have now established that also.
Here is the real whopper. I'm gonna let you read the exchange between "Rupert" and myself and you tell me what you think is wrong with this picture.
[spoil]
Now, another pass at the same email, this time with factual parts he got wrong plus contradictions and the facts he got right highlighted, numbered and discussed:
[spoil]
Right... let's go through this step by step:
(1) [spoil]Didn't he claim he is shipping off next month, no time to play, in the Goodbye email? Ok, now lets move onto first big factual error, number...[/spoil]
(2) [spoil]Aren't M16A2, M16A4 and most recently M4 standard Marine Core Infantry weapons? Or they decided to keep going with Don Rumsfeld's plan of poor quality armor for vehicles and outdated weaponry that would deliver a victory on a low budget, the typical thinking of a CEO with his heyday during the golden time of the 80s before the market crashed.[/spoil]
(3) [spoil]Correct! The ISAF RC Capital is rotating between Italy, Turkey and Hungary and the ISAF RC North is predominantly German with some Scandinavians in support. Yes, Americans are dealing with the most dangerous regions; Baluchistan and Waziristan in the South and East, close to the border with Pakistan.[/spoil]
(4) [spoil]Uuuuhhh! The big one, the big one... First; the base in White Sands, New Mexico is the missile proving range. Yet in the pop culture it is also known as the place where (as UFO conspiracy nut cases claim) the allegedly downed UFO's are being test driven in a secret government projects. Also not part of the so called Area 51 near Las Vegas.
Second; US Marines train somewhere near San Diego on the West Coast, and in Quantico on the East Coast. Right?[/spoil]
(5) [spoil]That machine gun I completely made up. Don't know what it really is, a toaster? The actual machine gun I was referring to is M2HB. Even with (2) I am sort of led to believe after watching the movies such as "Jarhead" (also red the novel by Anthony Swofford) and "Full Metal Jacket" that after repeating thousands of times: "This is my rifle, it is part of me, without it I'm nobody" a real Marine would correct me in regards to what kind of weapons they are using. Am I wrong?[/spoil]
For me, there are reasonable grounds to believe it is "Cornelius" behind both accounts, which is considered cheating.
My feelings for admiration for USMC and "Rupert" are genuine, but I believe it is "Cornelius" who might be pulling all the strings. My feelings of loathing for cheating are also genuine.
At the moment I have 12 attacks coming at me from all of their villages, and the first one that hit was a nuke. I'm preparing to make my last stand, post a goodbye message to my fellow tribe members and leave when and if all the nukes and nobles hit.
Please forgive if some areas seem unclear and patchy as I just came into the apartment from outside an hour ago. Trying to organize defenses and write this at the same time makes for poor concentration.
I don't want to put in a complaint until I have some opinions about it. Full disclosure: yes, we suspected this happened once before, we put in a complaint and it came back negative (not cheating) that time.
Still, something just doesn't look right about it though. True, it could be a nice clean shot they took at me, and if so my congratulations to "Rupert" and "Cornelius" will be passed on after my game exit. Still, it just keeps bugging me. After investing my time and money into this entertainment product I'd like to know things were fair.
The English game admin might not take it seriously, so I'm thinking of going straight to the Germans, but there could be a language barrier of course. Apparently, the way the check is done, somebody actually checks it manually, and there is NO way to know for sure via a yes/no computer check as I was told with our previous complaint.
Please don't quote this whole original post, just the part of what strikes you the most about something, or a specific point / spoiler.
If you decide to post and you are in USMC or US Army, thank you and if you could list some of your experience that would be much appreciated.
Thank you again,
Orion.
[If you are not a real life member of US Armed Services could you please refer this to the one you might know and have them read it, I'd appreciate it a lot.]
thanks for your help. Too keep it as short as possible; my villages are being attacked by two players, "Rupert" and "Cornelius". "Fight Club" names are used to protect their privacy.
The emails you gonna read are real.
"Rupert" is a real life US Marine who is deploying for Afghanistan, "Cornelius" is seemingly just a teenage boy, most probably from United Kingdom. Although our tribes are at war and "Rupert" is our in-game enemy, he wished us goodbye as he is a Personal Ally of one of my tribe members, and they knew each other from way back.
So...
Here is "Rupert's" goodbye email.
[spoil]
[/spoil]"Rupert" on 04.01. at 14:21
well I just don't have time to play much anymore and I have not been on in over a day now. I will be deploying to afganistan next month so I guess it is time for me to just quit. I wish you the best in this world
Take care
"Rupert"
Right.
Now all of a sudden "Rupert", who has allegedly quit, starts attacking us.
What we do know is that "Cornelius" is account sitting him and other way around, so when one guy is sleeping and away the other guy is sitting his account. As per this email when "Cornelius" sent to my other tribe member, also a Personal Ally of his own, lets call him "X":
[spoil]
[/spoil]"Rupert" on 14.12. at 12:53
ok thanks, this is "Cornellius" here
MEMBER X on 14.12. at 13:01
haha do you use the same computer or something?
"Rupert" on 14.12. at 15:41
no we are just good mates in this world, he sits me when i am offline and i st him when he works! Just means our accounts are run 24hours aday
MEMBER X on 23.12. at 13:50
The rest of the conversation is just useless information about me supporting him and him promising to repay me and help me build my first academy.
This message has been forwarded by MEMBER X.
Ok, so we have now established that also.
Here is the real whopper. I'm gonna let you read the exchange between "Rupert" and myself and you tell me what you think is wrong with this picture.
[spoil]
[/spoil]orionlukas on 06.01. at 04:35
Just wishing you all the best in Afghanistan.
It takes guts do to that you know, go there and fight the terrorists and heroin drug lords.
-Orion.
"Rupert" on 06.01. at 12:02
true but I still have a few months to spend here with family and friends
orionlukas on 06.01. at 16:12
This is interesting.
You know the village you guys are attempting to take from me? That guy use to be a jarhead too, what are the odds of that happening.
Hey, imagine if you are in the group that gets Osama. Looking at the barrel of your M-15, he might not go down without a fight. He's not Saddam.
Saddam was a dictator nobody liked. Osama, now he's a dangerous fanatic that has a following ready to die for him. The analysts say he will rather order one of his own to kill him, to deny Obama to put him in some hellhole Illinois supermax before a trial.
Do you think he might actually not go down and use the opportunity whilst on trial to spew anti-American propaganda?
"Rupert" on 06.01. at 21:11
The truth is I honestly think he is dead, he has been sick for the last decade or so. Also no one has heard a word from him since the afgan war started.
But if he is alive I would expect nothing less then a gun fight for him and if he did give up I would love to beat the living daylights out of him!!!! even if I had to go to jail for a few days
orionlukas on 06.01. at 22:49
Your feelings are understandable.
Which Operational Command are you deploying into North or the Capital?
That guy [MY EX TRIBE MEMBER, ALSO JARHEAD], he was in Op Desert Storm.
"Rupert" today at 01:43
Unknown your guess would be as good as mine but I would prob guess south
orionlukas today at 07:12
South is a tough region.
Close to Pakistan but everything is close to Pakistan, right?
But hey, when you crawled in the mud and climbed the rope on the wall in White Sands, New Mexico and fired M1EB machine gun as part of your training, you probably already had that emotional resolution to be able to kill somebody.
It is just fascinating to me.
Here is the most important question for you; how long do you think the Afghanistan deployment will last until Obama will have to initiate the troop witdrawal? 3 months? 6 months?
What is your gut feeling telling you?
"Rupert" today at 12:04
I would say atleast another year or two before we are out
orionlukas today at 15:15
In any case all the best.
"Rupert" today at 15:57
thanks
Now, another pass at the same email, this time with factual parts he got wrong plus contradictions and the facts he got right highlighted, numbered and discussed:
[spoil]
[/spoil]orionlukas on 06.01. at 04:35
Just wishing you all the best in Afghanistan.
It takes guts do to that you know, go there and fight the terrorists and heroin drug lords.
-Orion.
"Rupert" on 06.01. at 12:02
true but I still have a few months (1) to spend here with family and friends
orionlukas on 06.01. at 16:12
This is interesting.
You know the village you guys are attempting to take from me? That guy use to be a jarhead too, what are the odds of that happening.
Hey, imagine if you are in the group that gets Osama. Looking at the barrel of your M-15, (2) he might not go down without a fight. He's not Saddam.
Saddam was a dictator nobody liked. Osama, now he's a dangerous fanatic that has a following ready to die for him. The analysts say he will rather order one of his own to kill him, to deny Obama to put him in some hellhole Illinois supermax before a trial.
Do you think he might actually not go down and use the opportunity whilst on trial to spew anti-American propaganda?
"Rupert" on 06.01. at 21:11
The truth is I honestly think he is dead, he has been sick for the last decade or so. Also no one has heard a word from him since the afgan war started.
But if he is alive I would expect nothing less then a gun fight for him and if he did give up I would love to beat the living daylights out of him!!!! even if I had to go to jail for a few days
orionlukas on 06.01. at 22:49
Your feelings are understandable.
Which Operational Command are you deploying into North or the Capital?
That guy [MY EX TRIBE MEMBER, ALSO JARHEAD], he was in Op Desert Storm.
"Rupert" today at 01:43
Unknown your guess would be as good as mine but I would prob guess south (3)
orionlukas today at 07:12
South is a tough region.
Close to Pakistan but everything is close to Pakistan, right?
But hey, when you crawled in the mud and climbed the rope on the wall in White Sands, New Mexico (4) and fired M1EB machine gun (5) as part of your training, you probably already had that emotional resolution to be able to kill somebody.
It is just fascinating to me.
Here is the most important question for you; how long do you think the Afghanistan deployment will last until Obama will have to initiate the troop witdrawal? 3 months? 6 months?
What is your gut feeling telling you?
"Rupert" today at 12:04
I would say atleast another year or two before we are out
orionlukas today at 15:15
In any case all the best.
"Rupert" today at 15:57
thanks
Right... let's go through this step by step:
(1) [spoil]Didn't he claim he is shipping off next month, no time to play, in the Goodbye email? Ok, now lets move onto first big factual error, number...[/spoil]
(2) [spoil]Aren't M16A2, M16A4 and most recently M4 standard Marine Core Infantry weapons? Or they decided to keep going with Don Rumsfeld's plan of poor quality armor for vehicles and outdated weaponry that would deliver a victory on a low budget, the typical thinking of a CEO with his heyday during the golden time of the 80s before the market crashed.[/spoil]
(3) [spoil]Correct! The ISAF RC Capital is rotating between Italy, Turkey and Hungary and the ISAF RC North is predominantly German with some Scandinavians in support. Yes, Americans are dealing with the most dangerous regions; Baluchistan and Waziristan in the South and East, close to the border with Pakistan.[/spoil]
(4) [spoil]Uuuuhhh! The big one, the big one... First; the base in White Sands, New Mexico is the missile proving range. Yet in the pop culture it is also known as the place where (as UFO conspiracy nut cases claim) the allegedly downed UFO's are being test driven in a secret government projects. Also not part of the so called Area 51 near Las Vegas.
Second; US Marines train somewhere near San Diego on the West Coast, and in Quantico on the East Coast. Right?[/spoil]
(5) [spoil]That machine gun I completely made up. Don't know what it really is, a toaster? The actual machine gun I was referring to is M2HB. Even with (2) I am sort of led to believe after watching the movies such as "Jarhead" (also red the novel by Anthony Swofford) and "Full Metal Jacket" that after repeating thousands of times: "This is my rifle, it is part of me, without it I'm nobody" a real Marine would correct me in regards to what kind of weapons they are using. Am I wrong?[/spoil]
For me, there are reasonable grounds to believe it is "Cornelius" behind both accounts, which is considered cheating.
My feelings for admiration for USMC and "Rupert" are genuine, but I believe it is "Cornelius" who might be pulling all the strings. My feelings of loathing for cheating are also genuine.
At the moment I have 12 attacks coming at me from all of their villages, and the first one that hit was a nuke. I'm preparing to make my last stand, post a goodbye message to my fellow tribe members and leave when and if all the nukes and nobles hit.
Please forgive if some areas seem unclear and patchy as I just came into the apartment from outside an hour ago. Trying to organize defenses and write this at the same time makes for poor concentration.
I don't want to put in a complaint until I have some opinions about it. Full disclosure: yes, we suspected this happened once before, we put in a complaint and it came back negative (not cheating) that time.
Still, something just doesn't look right about it though. True, it could be a nice clean shot they took at me, and if so my congratulations to "Rupert" and "Cornelius" will be passed on after my game exit. Still, it just keeps bugging me. After investing my time and money into this entertainment product I'd like to know things were fair.
The English game admin might not take it seriously, so I'm thinking of going straight to the Germans, but there could be a language barrier of course. Apparently, the way the check is done, somebody actually checks it manually, and there is NO way to know for sure via a yes/no computer check as I was told with our previous complaint.
Please don't quote this whole original post, just the part of what strikes you the most about something, or a specific point / spoiler.
If you decide to post and you are in USMC or US Army, thank you and if you could list some of your experience that would be much appreciated.
Thank you again,
Orion.
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