w12 vs w10

[Therin]

Well W12 vs W15:

DNY: 1,188,968,430 score
Emperor Taizu: Joined 21st February 2008 - 11:11

Wanted (they rank first): 1,590,566,199 score
Kire (leader of Wanted): Joined 27th February 2008 - 19:07

so basically W15 wins here

World 15 is on different settings and such isn't comparable.

 

[Kash2Smash]

lol soz.. forgot tha point

 

[crom]

Well W12 vs W15:

DNY: 1,188,968,430 score
Emperor Taizu: Joined 21st February 2008 - 11:11

Wanted (they rank first): 1,590,566,199 score
Kire (leader of Wanted): Joined 27th February 2008 - 19:07

so basically W15 wins here

Going on this logic, W2 > all.

TW = 700 bazillion points...

 

[Therin]

After world 12 they changed the OD settings. You know get varying amounts depending on how hard it is to kill the troop - such as 4 points for killing a spear when attacking, or 7 points for defending against an axe. On world 12 it is done purely by population.

Also, compare the size of wanted to DNY phsyically - they are about 330 mill compared to DNY's 900 mill.

 

[Therin]

These are the relative values for OD in the later worlds (after World 12) Number on the left is what you gain for killing that troop in attacking, the number on the right for defending against that kind of troop. In World 12 it is simply the pop that the troop takes up.

Spear: 4 / 1
Sword: 5 / 2
Axe: 1 / 4
Archer: 5 / 2
Scout: 1 / 2
Light Cavalry: 5 / 13
Mounted Archer: 6 / 12
Heavy Cavalry 23 / 15
Ram: 4 / 8
Catapult: 12 / 10
Paladin: 40 / 20
Nobleman: 200 / 200

A World 12 player would get 20k ODA for clearing a 10k/10k spear stack, while a world 15 player would get 90k. Quite a difference no?

 

[DeletedUser]

These are the relative values for OD in the later worlds (after World 12) Number on the left is what you gain for killing that troop in attacking, the number on the right for defending against that kind of troop. In World 12 it is simply the pop that the troop takes up.

Spear: 4 / 1
Sword: 5 / 2
Axe: 1 / 4
Archer: 5 / 2
Scout: 1 / 2
Light Cavalry: 5 / 13
Mounted Archer: 6 / 12
Heavy Cavalry 23 / 15
Ram: 4 / 8
Catapult: 12 / 10
Paladin: 40 / 20
Nobleman: 200 / 200

A World 12 player would get 20k ODA for clearing a 10k/10k spear stack, while a world 15 player would get 90k. Quite a difference no?

aka w15 would have via our measurements only a ODA score of 333 million instead of 1500 million.

quite a difference eh?

 

[Murderous Mouse]

aka w15 would have via our measurements only a ODA score of 333 million instead of 1500 million.

quite a difference eh?

Not neccessairly, you are working on that all they kill is spear/sword and in equal measure, which is not true.

 

[DeletedUser]

These are the relative values for OD in the later worlds (after World 12) Number on the left is what you gain for killing that troop in attacking, the number on the right for defending against that kind of troop. In World 12 it is simply the pop that the troop takes up.

Spear: 4 / 1
Sword: 5 / 2
Axe: 1 / 4
Archer: 5 / 2
Scout: 1 / 2
Light Cavalry: 5 / 13
Mounted Archer: 6 / 12
Heavy Cavalry 23 / 15
Ram: 4 / 8
Catapult: 12 / 10
Paladin: 40 / 20
Nobleman: 200 / 200

A World 12 player would get 20k ODA for clearing a 10k/10k spear stack, while a world 15 player would get 90k. Quite a difference no?

i was completely unaware of this. thank you therin :icon_wink:

 

[Therin]

i was completely unaware of this. thank you therin :icon_wink:

I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not Timmish.

I think the problem with the new system is it completely undervalues killing enemy nukes at home and rewards those who simply pound on stacked villages. Those who are more tactical with their nukes as such have a much lower ODA.

 

[DeletedUser]

I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not Timmish.

I think the problem with the new system is it completely undervalues killing enemy nukes at home and rewards those who simply pound on stacked villages. Those who are more tactical with their nukes as such have a much lower ODA.

i dont think it was sarcasm at all.

 

[DeletedUser]

I say we just merge w10 and w12 then maybe we will have some one put up a real fight

 

[DeletedUser]

I say we just merge w10 and w12 then maybe we will have some one put up a real fight

not a bad idea to be honest

 

[DeletedUser]

I dont think its a good idea right now, there will be double the amount of barbs and FEMA will go crazy with all the excitement

 

[DeletedUser]

delet all barbs or stack them each with 100 k swords and spears

 

[DeletedUser]

delet all barbs or stack them each with 100 k swords and spears

why stack them lol

 

[DeletedUser]

why stack them lol

makes it easier to noble DNY the stacked barbs... takes temptation away the urge to kill something that is easy to kill i know thats why i take barbs there easier

and in a week if thee 9000 pts they can provide almost a full nuke or more defensive units

 

[DeletedUser]

Could of swore we've had this discussion before. It's fairly obvious DNY has this world won and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. Although I can't agree with Rednecks comment where he compares the maps since the maps only say so much The tribes on world 10 are a lot larger than the tribes on world 12 on average and so are the players by a good bit. The K's on w10 are also a lot more dense and more developed than the K's on world 12. Only way to say which would be better than the other would be for the two tribes to fight it out and that's obviously not going to happen considering the face that we're on two different worlds.

Stats for world 12 -

Rank Tribe name Points of the best 40 player Total points Members Average points per player Villages Average points per village
1 DNY 381.050.661 637.702.746 87 7.329.917 63586 10.029
2 Oots. 211.059.676 264.097.445 73 3.617.773 26398 10.004
3 FEMA 191.157.513 264.790.987 81 3.269.025 27067 9.783
4 FEMA-S 156.937.794 226.392.434 83 2.727.620 23417 9.668
5 B-SW 117.241.825 135.817.412 76 1.787.071 13683 9.926
6 B=SW 96.554.599 101.343.252 56 1.809.701 10750 9.427
7 CELTS 51.662.088 52.437.207 47 1.115.685 5568 9.418
8 BS=W 43.966.549 44.292.676 44 1.006.652 4705 9.414
9 F.M 43.914.878 43.914.878 30 1.463.829 4534 9.686
10 ~BSW~ 39.051.444 42.068.648 80 525.858 4554 9.238
11 RETIRE 35.695.948 35.695.948 31 1.151.482 3884 9.191
12 Hades 34.609.749 34.804.651 50 696.093 3806 9.145
13 LDK 27.075.133 27.075.133 12 2.256.261 2787 9.715
14 FUSION 21.017.000 22.076.331 77 286.706 2727 8.095
15 DAWN 20.068.023 20.068.023 19 1.056.212 2092 9.593
16 Honor 16.956.938 16.956.938 22 770.770 1859 9.122
17 SUDDEN 16.558.218 16.558.218 12 1.379.852 1745 9.489
18 E.F.F 12.084.273 12.674.017 72 176.028 1472 8.610
19 EERIE 11.657.517 11.657.517 22 529.887 1259 9.259
20 GoBrad 11.465.474 11.465.474 1 11.465.474 1220 9.398

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Rank Name Tribe Points Villages Average points per village
1 jmslklcs63 DNY 13.823.435 1357 10187
2 Rednecks DNY 13.612.678 1370 9936
3 Chulthok DNY 13.554.661 1357 9989
4 Monasi DNY 13.117.079 1323 9915
5 faaaaark DNY 12.088.881 1206 10024
6 Mr. Blonde GoBrad 11.465.474 1220 9398
7 mzare DNY 11.319.348 1111 10188
8 Sudden Death DNY 11.300.068 1130 10000
9 jason6882 DNY 11.088.331 1084 10229
10 psycoze B-SW 10.967.383 890 12323
11 liatha Oots. 10.524.912 1078 9763
12 tbolling DNY 10.227.836 1022 10008
13 Pawen DNY 10.147.863 1025 9900
14 Lexdyslic DNY 10.090.199 1009 10000
15 Mezonis DNY 10.029.090 1036 9681
16 GmZ1990 DNY 9.980.866 985 10133
17 alilex16 DNY 9.888.152 1012 9771
18 Segan DNY 9.718.927 1034 9399
19 gelu barbarul Oots. 9.649.240 964 10010
20 paxthorax DNY 9.629.359 968 9948

Stats for World 10 -

Rank Tribe name Points of the best 40 player Total points Members Average points per player Villages Average points per village
1 CTRL 442.581.864 697.943.212 81 8.616.583 70769 9.862
2 DDB 353.789.754 527.575.776 89 5.927.818 52590 10.032
3 BORG 348.879.313 533.120.729 92 5.794.791 53552 9.955
4 TUBA 212.527.374 280.200.273 91 3.079.124 28475 9.840
5 GTG 163.359.291 183.236.731 73 2.510.092 18683 9.808
6 BORG-B 158.750.984 201.992.759 85 2.376.385 20944 9.644
7 Viva 154.912.070 161.126.610 50 3.222.532 16256 9.912
8 DDBBQ 132.451.242 143.642.567 61 2.354.796 14426 9.957
9 FUBAR 129.155.363 137.526.454 61 2.254.532 13848 9.931
10 None 113.279.851 115.224.190 55 2.094.985 11391 10.115
11 TMP 46.719.009 46.719.009 16 2.919.938 4915 9.505
12 SET 27.656.426 27.656.426 19 1.455.601 2788 9.920
13 Nomads 11.156.235 11.156.235 5 2.231.247 1139 9.795
14 KTN 10.905.958 10.905.958 26 419.460 1162 9.386
15 TORORG 10.788.736 10.790.578 46 234.578 1151 9.375
16 PINOY 8.310.411 8.310.411 13 639.262 849 9.788
17 ~FAR~ 7.647.932 7.647.932 3 2.549.311 779 9.818
18 {A*D}A 7.350.916 7.350.916 2 3.675.458 752 9.775
19 Ctrl+V 4.347.700 4.347.700 1 4.347.700 466 9.330
20 BORG-X 3.237.477 3.237.477 14 231.248 383 8.453

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Rank Name Tribe Points Villages Average points per village
1 KidaLimbo CTRL 16.739.302 1709 9795
2 rosskin CTRL 16.456.136 1653 9955
3 payn3 DDB 15.741.507 1564 10065
4 wincz BORG 15.322.526 1460 10495
5 Emperor Jon CTRL 15.270.502 1496 10208
6 TheMightyZ CTRL 15.248.132 1531 9960
7 CUCLOP CTRL 14.975.679 1453 10307
8 spawnie-rose CTRL 14.043.402 1468 9566
9 KingWoods CTRL 13.477.300 1443 9340
10 Griswald DDB 13.285.715 1076 12347
11 PDXCook DDB 13.237.509 1343 9857
12 earone CTRL 13.223.707 1331 9935
13 Pepsi-sTyX BORG 13.029.578 1181 11033
14 Keymaker None 12.789.430 1166 10969
15 Crasy CTRL 12.577.359 1226 10259
16 kazkas DDB 12.570.450 1282 9805
17 kalkoenvet CTRL 12.413.463 1226 10125
18 cezarsab BORG 12.337.973 1196 10316
19 Texfull DDB 12.325.923 1296 9511
20 rozanzibar CTRL 12.241.209 1261 9708

 

[DeletedUser]

Could of swore we've had this discussion before. It's fairly obvious DNY has this world won and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

We did and it was a fun debate back then. I was waiting for you to respond.

Although I can't agree with Rednecks comment where he compares the maps since the maps only say so much The tribes on world 10 are a lot larger than the tribes on world 12 on average and so are the players by a good bit.

True, but W10 had a 3 month head start than W12. So the gap between the leaders of each world should be expected.

The K's on w10 are also a lot more dense and more developed than the K's on world 12.

But wouldn't this make it easier for W10? Because we have so many inactives and barbs we have a greater distance to noble on W12. Like I stated in my post W10 ended up more dense because of all the family tribes playing SimCity during the first 6 monthes of the world. People nobled and devoloped those small barbs on W10 where we ignored them in W12. I checked out the map today on W10 where I used to roam and noticed almost every small barb had been nobled and developed in my old area.

Only way to say which would be better than the other would be for the two tribes to fight it out and that's obviously not going to happen considering the face that we're on two different worlds.

To bad as it would have been fun.

 

[DeletedUser]

Only way to say which would be better than the other would be for the two tribes to fight it out and that's obviously not going to happen considering the face that we're on two different worlds.

this MUST be done somehow in future Everyone want's this...when there is even more clear winning tribes on both worlds

 

[DeletedUser]

@king woodly the only reason that the tribe average is alot lower in w12 than it is in w10 is that DNY took out all the large tribes that were a threat earlier on of any considerable size. Namely OOTs, VIRUSe, Fusion ,Elite ect when the world was still in contension for a winner.