Wars in the East

DeletedUser

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Due to request, I have now set up thread fpr irreverant HD/RLS?SPAM/Trollers generally to cooment on so we can start to get the top 20 thread back together again.

At the moment the major dust up going on is HD and RLS - V - Spam

Background:

3 tribes always been a presence in top 20 and mostly in top 10. Just dont get on. Simples.
The lands of K35 were once fertile and productive. You could spit a grape seed from your mouth and next year would be a vine. The soil is black and can grow anything. The cities were rich. Merchants traded. News passed around. Nobles were fat and lazy. Taverns were full.

Then the dark times came.......

Pillage, slaughter, looting and catting down of farms.
Cities became fortresses and once man who had been a farmer was now a warrior.

The balance of power in K35 was dependant on two of the three tribes fighting eachother and the third watching and waiting for their chance.

The dukes did talk. A hell of a lot of time was spent talking. But clearly failed to listen . Meanwhile each tribe spent hours and hours trying to plan the destruction of the other or helping the weaker become stronger to keep the balance of power roughly afloat.

some cities were changing hands and re-recapping faster than a warthog charging into a mud pile. Other cities were seriously stacked. Their walls were made with forged alloys for extra strength. , not clay .

Still the tribes warred. And spoke. And warred. And didnt speak. But the theme you might have gathered is the ol warring bit.

Then the Dukes of H D and -RLS- had an epithany. We just said " What the frick, lets get SPAM"
It wasnt a personal conflict or even a masterminded plan of cunning severe. It was a simple moment of clarity where 2 Dukes out of the 3 suddenly agreed on something , and most importantly , at the same time.


The current stats since hostilities broke out:
this is last week of fighting only

Side 1:
Tribes: H D, -RLS-
Side 2:
Tribes: SPAM
Timeframe: Last week
Total conquers:
Side 1: 262
Side 2: 96
Difference: 166
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Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 17
Side 2: 8
Difference: 9
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Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 1,358,928
Side 2: 690,360
Difference: 668,568
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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 138,822
Side 2: 63,441
Difference: 75,381
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Now to be clear, this is not going to be a walk n a sweet shop for any of the 3 tribes. All can pack a punch and all can defend. There is a lot of territory and villages for any side to take before the champagne can be popped open and the churchbells ring aloud. HD have been fighting SPAM for over one month now so we know they are quality adversaries. Whatever is commented on their offensive capability, their defence is well organised.

Its actually good to war in the East. And SPAM are worthy opponents.
 

Garrock

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Smart move... good job to even the odds. Neither your tribe, nor H D are capable of holding your own against them alone. Pitting your 86 total players vs. their 20 is a good move.

That said, I've always preferred small, select tribes, and I've gotta root for SPAM on this one.

Good-luck!
 

DeletedUser

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Let us all merge and purge ourselves of the urge to war so that we may splurge this surge of the West.

The western shape is about to rape because of Escape, but we can crush them like a grape so that they will gape at our drape [if we have the urge to merge].

Why give them a free win from our chinny chin chin when we can marchand de vin their potato skin of their actual sin and take out those conjoined twin of the West.

SLAP would fap, has no member cap and would clap at the new map if we had the urge to merge, if only we could zap them from their nap about Morpeth's lap.

The East could feast on the West's nest because we are beast; if only the pieced East could be fixed, but i doubt at the very least as no wars are ceased to exist.
 
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DeletedUser56985

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Anyway back to topic.
I'd prefer it if you include two seperate statistics from the two tribes verses spam, seeing as there was different declaration times it'd be unfit to include both into one.
 

DeletedUser

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How about posting starts from the declaration instead of stats that make you guys look better :O
 

oheinen66

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Sad thing is, I still severely doubt -RLS- and H D will be able to beat SPAM. They have surprise on their side, but it will come down to a crunch. Actually I predict SPAM winning this for several reasons.

1. First, it was a mistake for -RLS- to backstab SPAM, some short term gains for the loss in the long term. This now tells BONN that -RLS- arent trustworthy.
2. 7SF/Valour ganging on H D

To be honest, SPAM will take most of the heat, but I believe it will still come out on top. its a shame that their leader has to visit his family with regards to his Late Grandfathers will this weekend. After that though, I think SPAM will be hitting back hard.
 
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DeletedUser

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Sad thing is, I still severely doubt -RLS- and H D will be able to beat SPAM. They have surprise on their side, but it will come down to a crunch. Actually I predict SPAM winning this for several reasons.

1. First, it was a mistake for -RLS- to backstab SPAM, some short term gains for the loss in the long term. This now tells BONN that -RLS- arent trustworthy.
2. 7SF/Valour ganging on H D

To be honest, SPAM will take most of the heat, but I believe it will still come out on top. Their leader is nothing short of brilliant...its a shame that he has to visit his family with regards to his Late Grandfathers will this weekend. After that though, I think SPAM will be hitting back hard.

Very valid points. Regardless, I think it is very blatant that the West will take advantage of these wars and eventually finish them all off, and more players will merge into a Western tribe.
 

oheinen66

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To be honest, I see SPAM absorbing H D and -RLS- fire whilst the big gains are reaped by western offences.
 

DeletedUser

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too much talk of western tribes taking over the world. they are the dominant tribes ya, but it does not matter how good they are, they still have tonnnnnnns of cleanup in the west. not to mention there is not much they can do to take over the east any time soon except merge in eastern players. and from what i have seen from eastern tribes (aside from slap), they dont care much for merges and would rather go toe to toe. give the east vs west stuff a rest already.
 

oheinen66

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too much talk of western tribes taking over the world. they are the dominant tribes ya, but it does not matter how good they are, they still have tonnnnnnns of cleanup in the west. not to mention there is not much they can do to take over the east any time soon except merge in eastern players. and from what i have seen from eastern tribes (aside from slap), they dont care much for merges and would rather go toe to toe. give the east vs west stuff a rest already.

wasnt talking about recruitment. Was talking a straight backstab of the Eastern infighting tribes by the West
 

DeletedUser

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my comments were more directed at wham :p was lazy and didnt quote him tho
 

DeletedUser

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my comments were more directed at wham :p was lazy and didnt quote him tho

Aww... I am on codeine, and the whole rhyming session was perfect for the moment.

East vs West isn't my idea anyway, I'm quoting others.
 

DeletedUser

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good luck on both sides, but i prefer SPAM to win, winning in a 2vs1 war is something to see but it's hard for them coz RLS and HD isn't a noob tribe,

so best of luck to this war
 

DeletedUser104372

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1. First, it was a mistake for -RLS- to backstab SPAM, some short term gains for the loss in the long term. This now tells BONN that -RLS- arent trustworthy.

I'll keep this short: go play another game if you dont know what you're talking about. Spam broke the NAP, therefore RLS acted.

Either you're clueless about the situation at hand or you're trolling. Yes, only 2 choices possible.
 

oheinen66

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I'll keep this short: go play another game if you dont know what you're talking about. Spam broke the NAP, therefore RLS acted.

Either you're clueless about the situation at hand or you're trolling. Yes, only 2 choices possible.

I do happen to know what I am talking about. Firstly, -RLS- acted far before SPAM "supposedly" broke the NAP:

[spoil]Mikeys1234 on 10.02. at 05:20


We didnt hit as planned because you guys didnt do what you were supposed to.

It has nothing to do with us and spam diplos. I'm not sure who told you this but, he's smoking stuff up.

I'm the one who made the call, so I kinda know. I'm also the one who handled the talks with yuor tribe 10 days ago.

Since then, nothing was done, as planned. Its like you guys waited for us, exactly the opposite of what had been discussed.[/spoil]

-RLS- accused SPAM of supporting a certain player, despite being given concrete evidence from where those troops came from. Furthermore, this event happened after -RLS- made their statement of intent in that mail and made up conversations with neighbouring tribes to gangbang SPAM. Basically, this has been proved to be an excuse several times through mails from both SPAM players and from what I have heard, the guy targeted himself. I see -RLS- as the backstabbers, because it seems to be in their nature. Eg. -RLS- trying to get SPAM to target H D in a "joint Op" so that the nobletrains were out, whilst knowing that they were going to declare on SPAM might be considered backstabbing. Also curious, it made sure the focus was on H D when -RLS- declared on SPAM, basically letting their "partner" take the hits in hope of getting an easy ride:

[spoil]
Camio/mikeys1234 28/02/2012 17:18
was wondering if you'd like to coordinate with us on hd
Dylan Atkin 28/02/2012 17:18
we are currently busy with an issue atm...but will get back to you
Camio/mikeys1234 28/02/2012 17:18
hmk
28/02/2012 17:19
we'd need to know asap tho
Dylan Atkin 28/02/2012 17:20
well assume no unless otherwise stated by me
Camio/mikeys1234 28/02/2012 17:21
aight
28/02/2012 17:21
kinda sucks tho
28/02/2012 17:21
would've been nice to coordinate with you guys[/spoil]

Or maybe -RLS- not following the 24 hour breaking clause of the NAP by trying to pass the attacks off as a mistake for hours after they had started and had the cheek to call SPAM's leader a liar:

[spoil]receiving more attacks from green dragon
[29/02/2012 18:30:49] Dwild: are you sure?
[29/02/2012 18:30:51] Dylan Atkin: yes
[29/02/2012 18:30:53] Dylan Atkin: very sure
[29/02/2012 18:31:02] Dylan Atkin: as we speak
[29/02/2012 18:31:15] Dylan Atkin: green dragon is sending more attacks at horror o0o
[29/02/2012 18:32:58] Dylan Atkin: have 2 hours to reply and sort this out
[29/02/2012 18:33:01] Dylan Atkin: green dragon is online
[29/02/2012 18:33:05] Dylan Atkin: otherwise SPAM retaliates
[29/02/2012 18:33:06] Dylan Atkin: that is all
[29/02/2012 19:47:33] Dwild: Dude
[29/02/2012 19:47:38] Dwild: why are you lying?
[29/02/2012 19:47:49] Dwild: No one suppose to attack you
[29/02/2012 19:47:51] Dwild: its a nap
[29/02/2012 19:48:26] Dylan Atkin: dude
[29/02/2012 19:48:28] Dylan Atkin: I wish I was lying
[29/02/2012 19:48:29] Dylan Atkin: but Im not
[29/02/2012 19:49:22] Dwild: So green has sent a train at you?
[29/02/2012 19:49:31] Dylan Atkin: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/6941845231_c5876d50e2_z.jpg
[29/02/2012 19:49:34] Dylan Atkin: these are incomings on me
[29/02/2012 19:49:39] Dylan Atkin: green has sent a nobletrain on horror
[29/02/2012 19:49:46] Dylan Atkin: the one that is untagged
[29/02/2012 19:49:49] Dylan Atkin: was sent less than a minute ago
[29/02/2012 19:50:00] Dylan Atkin: I have a total of 29 incomings
[29/02/2012 19:50:14] Dylan Atkin: horror o0o i believe has 2 trains incoming and 100+ incomigns
[29/02/2012 19:50:44] Dwild: Well shit
[29/02/2012 19:50:55] Dwild: Who let the dogs out
[29/02/2012 19:51:16] Dylan Atkin: the thing is
[29/02/2012 19:51:21] Dylan Atkin: I understand if you want to break the NAP
[29/02/2012 19:51:31] Dylan Atkin: just remember theres that 24 hour clause thing
[29/02/2012 19:51:37] Dwild: ?
[29/02/2012 19:51:44] Dwild: who said I wanted to break NAP man
[29/02/2012 19:51:53] Dylan Atkin: just look at it from my perspective mate
[29/02/2012 19:52:05] Dylan Atkin: 2 dudes from -RLS- (redzac and thegreendragon)
[29/02/2012 19:52:09] Dylan Atkin: unprovoked
[29/02/2012 19:52:18] Dylan Atkin: send about 200 attacks and 2 nobletrains
[29/02/2012 19:52:21] Dylan Atkin: to SPAM players
[29/02/2012 19:52:22] Dwild: redzac sending too????
[29/02/2012 19:52:31] Dwild: wtf[/spoil]

To me, these are all telltale signs of backstabbing. Now tell me I dont know what I am talking about :icon_rolleyes:
 
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