Powers declares on NERD

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Let me know if you want stacking Jester. :icon_wink:

Title of this thread, look at it.

You add SCUM (your current other war/clean up), I'll add ~SA~/FIGHT!/-13D- (Powers current other wars/clean ups), fair?
You add pRo, I'll add Casino, PRIONS and every other tribe Powers was hitting for that month.

Shame you're the main one trying to sell all this bullshit, at the end of the day it works both ways xmach.

You want to include other tribes then do the same for us it's a very simple and obvious concept being able to stand back and look at the situation from both points of views.

Besides which you never answered my question smexmach:

Yeah title of thread wasn't what I was responding to, i was responding to shushh's stats which he INCLUDED SCUM, so if he's going to include scum, and start the war from when powers declared to present day, then he needs to include pRo as well. This is not rocket science.

And yes I agree it works both ways, yet all powers wants to do is use the powers vs NERD stat, ignoring all the other tribes both were/are at war with. Now you can talk all you want about the tribes you were at 'war' with, except everyone knows none of them were in the top 10 or likely even the top 20 during our war, while NERD was fighting 3 top 10 tribes. So lets compare based on tribes that can ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE! NERD vs 3 Top 10 tribes. Powers vs 1 top 10 tribe.

Now trying to add in SA is comical. First off you merged in KV, so that means its Powers/KV vs NERD/SA, if NERD and SA merged into 1 unit, would you consider you're still only fighting NERD? I think not, you doubled your member count and it was a top 10 ranked tribe you merged in, so don't cry about getting "ganged", considering you took in REFUGEES SA was hunting down, you knew what was going to happen.

But if you want to add them in, i think everyone would agree the stats would have to start from when THEY joined the war. And in that case you're losing.

Now that SA is at war with POWERS, everyone finally gets a clear image of the war. You bragged about your results against NERD while we were being hit by 3 other top 10 tribes. NOW powers is being hit by another top 10 tribe, I guess we'll see how well your POWERS stats are against NERD now that you have to split your attention and defenses. We've already seen you lose a 1 million point player we started laucnhing an op on to a ban for cheating. Just what depths will Powers stoop to to maintain their inflated, false war stats?

 

[DeletedUser]

Yeah title of thread wasn't what I was responding to, i was responding to shushh's stats which he INCLUDED SCUM, so if he's going to include scum, and start the war from when powers declared to present day, then he needs to include pRo as well. This is not rocket science.

And yes I agree it works both ways, yet all powers wants to do is use the powers vs NERD stat, ignoring all the other tribes both were/are at war with. Now you can talk all you want about the tribes you were at 'war' with, except everyone knows none of them were in the top 10 or likely even the top 20 during our war, while NERD was fighting 3 top 10 tribes. So lets compare based on tribes that can ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE! NERD vs 3 Top 10 tribes. Powers vs 1 top 10 tribe.

Now trying to add in SA is comical. First off you merged in KV, so that means its Powers/KV vs NERD/SA, if NERD and SA merged into 1 unit, would you consider you're still only fighting NERD? I think not, you doubled your member count and it was a top 10 ranked tribe you merged in, so don't cry about getting "ganged", considering you took in REFUGEES SA was hunting down, you knew what was going to happen.

But if you want to add them in, i think everyone would agree the stats would have to start from when THEY joined the war. And in that case you're losing.

Now that SA is at war with POWERS, everyone finally gets a clear image of the war. You bragged about your results against NERD while we were being hit by 3 other top 10 tribes. NOW powers is being hit by another top 10 tribe, I guess we'll see how well your POWERS stats are against NERD now that you have to split your attention and defenses. We've already seen you lose a 1 million point player we started laucnhing an op on to a ban for cheating. Just what depths will Powers stoop to to maintain their inflated, false war stats?

A player by the name of snakku comes to mind in response to your comments...no? :lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

And yes I agree it works both ways, yet all powers wants to do is use the powers vs NERD stat, ignoring all the other tribes both were/are at war with. Now you can talk all you want about the tribes you were at 'war' with, except everyone knows none of them were in the top 10 or likely even the top 20 during our war, while NERD was fighting 3 top 10 tribes. So lets compare based on tribes that can ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE! NERD vs 3 Top 10 tribes. Powers vs 1 top 10 tribe.

Tribes fighting NERD:
Powers
pRo
SCUM

Other tribes those tribes have fought at the same time as NERD:
Casino was rank 8 btw
Rally
Bio
R.L.
1nS4n3

That is why we stick to simply Powers vs. NERD usually, because one it's a lot easier and two it's free of twisting, just simple, straight facts.

Now trying to add in SA is comical. First off you merged in KV, so that means its Powers/KV vs NERD/SA, if NERD and SA merged into 1 unit, would you consider you're still only fighting NERD? I think not, you doubled your member count and it was a top 10 ranked tribe you merged in, so don't cry about getting "ganged", considering you took in REFUGEES SA was hunting down, you knew what was going to happen.

But if you want to add them in, i think everyone would agree the stats would have to start from when THEY joined the war. And in that case you're losing.

Actually we didn't double our members, if i remember rightly we increased by 40%.

We still have 30+ less players than NERD alone.

Put ~SA~ in the statistics, add in their conquers against KV as well with forever stats, add in yours vs. SCUM, you'll still find that they show Powers on top despite that extreme twisting.

Now that SA is at war with POWERS, everyone finally gets a clear image of the war. You bragged about your results against NERD while we were being hit by 3 other top 10 tribes. NOW powers is being hit by another top 10 tribe, I guess we'll see how well your POWERS stats are against NERD now that you have to split your attention and defenses. We've already seen you lose a 1 million point player we started laucnhing an op on to a ban for cheating. Just what depths will Powers stoop to to maintain their inflated, false war stats?

Erm they probably won't noble barbs and turtle up while begging for their enemies to stop and crawling to other tribes for assistance smexmach, dignity > defeat. :icon_razz:

 

[DeletedUser]

Erm they probably won't noble barbs and turtle up while begging for their enemies to stop and crawling to other tribes for assistance

Probably. Not exactly a convincing argument Kevin.

 

[DeletedUser]

Kev, now that he has stopped playing W37 and become a lurker, has much more time on his hands and is coming up with these long, boring posts which basically regurgitate (don't know if I spelt that right?) the same stuff over and over again. Plus, he also wants to provoke people and get them to argue with him, which I think is pretty lame. For instance, his post in another thread ("Stickies" in the thread by the Mod) where he is purposely trying to be offensive. Which shows him reverting to his old pattern.

Regarding the war, I think, now that NERD has no more distractions and more proximate threats, can finally devote its full attention to the war with Powers. Not only that, but for the first time, we are shifting to a more offensive mode of play. I think we will be seeing a more offensive style of play from NERD and also a shift in the stats. It also has to be remembered that ~SA~ is also warring Powers, which adds more pressure (also make Powers understand what NERD had been dealing with when warring 3 tribes at the same time).

This war will be heating up and become much more exciting. To be honest, and this may be due to my own biases, but I don't really think Powers will make a real fight of it. I foresee the disbanding of Powers "due to RL stuff and issues", and, not at all because of their enemies *yawn* and running/seeking refuge in other tribes. And screaming and arguing in the externals that Powers was leading in captures and so even if they disbanded it wasn't because of any war or their enemies

I really hope this doesn't happen because I and many other NERDs really want to bring the fight to Powers. Plus, I hate Powers and would love to see Powers eat their words. Meh, I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[DeletedUser]

This may not be a direct response to the posts above, however, I just wanted to give my thoughts on this ordeal - I've been rather quite.

PSP had a very good shot at taking NERD out. Make no mistake about it, the intention was there.

At that time, it seemed like a very good/popular trend, but what most didn't seem to think about is, NERD has neighbors!

NERD gets overrun by a coalition of tribes, or tribes with similar interests or similiar diplomacy - whatever you want to call it; all of a sudden, 1ns4n3 has a warfront of a host of tribes who are likely not going to be friendly! I'll tell you that.

So, in reality, that move in itself forced the hand of 1ns4n3 (and maybe even R.L.) as, there were rumours of Scum merging with a host of tribes and/or forming a coalition to hit R.L., and let's face it, that didn't sit too well with them...

That sparked some concern, and SCUM were the ones who payed for it, unfortunately.
Nonetheless, you guys had every oppourtunity to take out NERD, as, other tribes didn't get involved until further down the road.

You now merge with a tribe who's currently at war with ~SA~ and, I'm hearing a lot of reports that, you were trying to get them involved as well. However, it seems ~SA~ isn't as gullible as many would like them to be; make their own decisions etc....

I dunno Kev, seems a bit wreckless to me.

 

[DeletedUser]

So, in reality, that move in itself forced the hand of 1ns4n3 (and maybe even R.L.) as, there were rumours of Scum merging with a host of tribes and/or forming a coalition to hit R.L., and let's face it, that didn't sit too well with them...

I would say you got it in one, or at least that was the reason for my vote.

As for the war power and nerd, I prefer a week or 48 hours time frame as it shows how hard each tribe is going at one or another.

Tribes: cOn
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: NERD
Players:

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 339
Side 2: 189
Difference: 150

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 5
Side 2: 1
Difference: 4

Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 2,855,813
Side 2: 1,601,140
Difference: 1,254,673

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 39,720
Side 2: 9,175
Difference: 30,545

I don't know if the SA thing about trying to get them to join the war against NERD. But if it is, its pretty weak really, you called R.L. and Insane for doing that to SCUM yet you have done it once to NERD and now your trying again to them. What this war is taking its toll on you!!!

If I was SA and thinking of entering the war with NERD two things would come to my mind.

1. What would happen if we won the war join powers or would they war us.

2. What would Insane do if we entered the war.

Who would you want to keep on your good side well my answer is Insane.

 

[Zschech]

I don't know if the SA thing about trying to get them to join the war against NERD. But if it is, its pretty weak really, you called R.L. and Insane for doing that to SCUM yet you have done it once to NERD and now your trying again to them. What this war is taking its toll on you!!!

If I was SA and thinking of entering the war with NERD two things would come to my mind.

1. What would happen if we won the war join powers or would they war us.

2. What would Insane do if we entered the war.

Who would you want to keep on your good side well my answer is Insane.

Actually ~SA~ would more likely be on the other side of the NERD vs Powers war

 

[DeletedUser]

Actually ~SA~ would more likely be on the other side of the NERD vs Powers war

By choice. I'm not necessarily sure I'd listen to a tribe that just merged with my adversaries either, just sayin'.

 

[DeletedUser]

I would say you got it in one, or at least that was the reason for my vote.

As for the war power and nerd, I prefer a week or 48 hours time frame as it shows how hard each tribe is going at one or another.

Tribes: cOn
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: NERD
Players:

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 339
Side 2: 189
Difference: 150

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 5
Side 2: 1
Difference: 4

Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 2,855,813
Side 2: 1,601,140
Difference: 1,254,673

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 39,720
Side 2: 9,175
Difference: 30,545

I don't know if the SA thing about trying to get them to join the war against NERD. But if it is, its pretty weak really, you called R.L. and Insane for doing that to SCUM yet you have done it once to NERD and now your trying again to them. What this war is taking its toll on you!!!

If I was SA and thinking of entering the war with NERD two things would come to my mind.

1. What would happen if we won the war join powers or would they war us.

2. What would Insane do if we entered the war.

Who would you want to keep on your good side well my answer is Insane.

Lame attempt.

Try something a little more subtle next time?

 

[DeletedUser]

...become a lurker, has much more time on his hands and is coming up with these long, boring posts which basically regurgitate (don't know if I spelt that right?) the same stuff over and over again...

You being lurkerist? I really see no point in that being used against me, sure i don't have time to play the game any more but you guys couldn't let me bow out without trying to get a final little PnP slander in. Fact is i just enjoy providing facts to refute your opinions and the posts are lengthly because your lies are many. :icon_biggrin:

Plus, he also wants to provoke people and get them to argue with him, which I think is pretty lame. For instance, his post in another thread ("Stickies" in the thread by the Mod) where he is purposely trying to be offensive. Which shows him reverting to his old pattern.

Several things here;
If you're correct in your judgment you're arguing in this post which would be doing exactly what i want? Ta LackingRaViN.
Secondly any thread asking for the discussion of stickiness is just too much, red rag, bull, anyone?
Finally, develop a sense of humour, chill out a little, you might just enjoy it. You've never been able to grasp logic so why not try something different, make a new name for Powers or me. Or stay miserable and sincere w/e.

Regarding the war, I think, now that NERD has no more distractions and more proximate threats, can finally devote its full attention to the war with Powers. Not only that, but for the first time, we are shifting to a more offensive mode of play. I think we will be seeing a more offensive style of play from NERD and also a shift in the stats. It also has to be remembered that ~SA~ is also warring Powers, which adds more pressure (also make Powers understand what NERD had been dealing with when warring 3 tribes at the same time).

You were in that situation for a whole month before SCUM declared, there's no evidence to suggest you'll actually change, i think this counts as your bi-weekly declaration of Powers' imminent doom

This war will be heating up and become much more exciting. To be honest, and this may be due to my own biases, but I don't really think Powers will make a real fight of it. I foresee the disbanding of Powers "due to RL stuff and issues", and, not at all because of their enemies *yawn* and running/seeking refuge in other tribes. And screaming and arguing in the externals that Powers was leading in captures and so even if they disbanded it wasn't because of any war or their enemies

I suppose if you finally did do something, (note the 'if' there, hugely unlikely). Powers might run its second opp on NERD, there months and we've not had to co-ordinate more than once to take an entire K from you. Yes we were/are lazy but you're shit.

Ohh and ~SA~ have done more damage village wise in two weeks than you did in two months, story of NERD's life aint it just.

Meh, I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Mmhmm, come back when you have something to back your crap up LackingRaVeN. :icon_razz:

This may not be a direct response to the posts above, however, I just wanted to give my thoughts on this ordeal - I've been rather quite.

PSP had a very good shot at taking NERD out. Make no mistake about it, the intention was there.

Totally agree, when we declare war we fully intend to follow through.

NERD gets overrun by a coalition of tribes, or tribes with similar interests or similiar diplomacy - whatever you want to call it; all of a sudden, 1ns4n3 has a warfront of a host of tribes who are likely not going to be friendly! I'll tell you that.

So, in reality, that move in itself forced the hand of 1ns4n3 (and maybe even R.L.) as, there were rumours of Scum merging with a host of tribes and/or forming a coalition to hit R.L., and let's face it, that didn't sit too well with them...

Again completely agree, the rumours spread by xmach about the 'coalition' were bound to force your hand, in your situation i would have done the same thing.

Fact is i personally respected 1nS4n3's control of the north, you and i talked on the matter although only briefly which was a shame.

Much as i'm sure you guys relish the chance for some ODD for a change i don't think logistically Powers stretching a further 2K's northerly would have made any sense.

As for likely not friendly, we probably wouldn't be if the in game interaction i had with one of your tribesmates epitiomizes you all, my poor nuke oddity! :icon_biggrin:

That sparked some concern, and SCUM were the ones who payed for it, unfortunately.

Up until the recent business with ~SA~ Powers has never been under any form of serious attack, the ammount of defence we have idle 24/7 would have been ample to stack enough of SCUM to give them a fighting chance. Our inaction should show you how much of the PnP myths were true, Powers was never allied with SCUM.

As for pRo not helping them as much...

No comment, they were allies though... :icon_neutral:

You now merge with a tribe who's currently at war with ~SA~ and, I'm hearing a lot of reports that, you were trying to get them involved as well. However, it seems ~SA~ isn't as gullible as many would like them to be; make their own decisions etc....

I dunno Kev, seems a bit wreckless to me.

There's been a lot of talk about coalitions on both sides, fearing the worst is a healthy reaction but not always right.

Sure we contacted ~SA~, nice to know which camp your new neighbours are in and trying to get attacks on your new members halted is an obvious step, within hours xmach had the mail so now we know. :lol:

All this PnP, diplomacy business aside i don't think it's important, Powers has roughly 12ish K's to bring to bear on a maximum of a 3K front. Backs to the rim, pRo smashing Rally to the east and NERD in no position to go through them without serious backing, go on you know you want to. :icon_twisted:

I'm confident that unless RL issues interfere Powers will continue to dominate the south-west.

And when i say RL issues let's take a look at the last few weeks, the difference between Powers disbanding or continuing was reliant on a strong new leadership, had Flip and the other barons not volunteered due to their own time constraints would the victory be NERD/~SA~'s? I don't think so, maybe I'm wrong, or maybe my definition of victory is based on more than simply logging in once a week for the next ten years so i can claim victory by merely existing longer than the other nubs :icon_rolleyes:

Not going to apologise for the long post. Don't like it don't read it i reply in full.

 

[DeletedUser72655]

I'm sure pro would have merged you in kev, :lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

I'd laugh if pro and powers merged for a super tribe lol that'd pwn

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm sure pro would have merged you in kev, :lol:

pRowers? :icon_biggrin:

anyways i agree kev. This game is needed especially now to play for at least an hour or two each day. From when i have talked to kev a few weeks before he left he had met a beautiful nice girly and began studying for school and all. I wont get too far into his personal life for you all though

Also cb planned his leaving months before he told us. He brought in new barons including me to help out knowing he would leave soon.

Anyways what im getting at is that players in powers and most top tribes dont quit because of war or nobling boring tribes. They leave because of RL matters and getting a life :icon_cool:,

all i have to say is, best of luck to nerd on their newly offensive trend. and welcome ~SA~.

 

[DeletedUser]

*PWP* pRofessionals with Power

 

[DeletedUser]

pRopa1n3 anyone?

Crazy Red pRowlers...

Perhaps we should put this 500 member tribe limit to the test! :icon_biggrin:

 

[DeletedUser]

pRopa1n3 anyone?

Crazy Red pRowlers...

Perhaps we should put this 500 member tribe limit to the test! :icon_biggrin:

Love that name

What about pRo and Insane merges into R.L.

Insane & Ruthless pRofessionals

IRP

It says it for itself

 

[DeletedUser]

Love that name

What about pRo and Insane merges into R.L.

Insane & Ruthless pRofessionals

IRP

It says it for itself

Could be a bit tricky but, that's what this world was intended to be - apparently. Surely with all that talent (both in leadership and players) we should be able to make it work.

Message me in game

j/k - but you can still message me in game for $%^# and giggles

 

[DeletedUser]

Sure With the 500 member limit we can get 10-20 extra players

I won't let something like this get away haha :lol:

Jokes.

 

[DeletedUser]

You know what I'd like to see. A merge between R.L and Rally. Not 'cause it would be a good tribe, it would just be funny to see 150 players made tribeless because they can't fit in...