DeletedUser
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If you are going to make unfounded accusations then please back them up.
If you are going to make unfounded accusations then please back them up.
DeletedUser
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T'was not an accusation, it was merely a question. I predicted Drama would hit them from behind as soon as Coming showed signs it was starting to crumble weeks before we actually declared war.
So, I predict publicly that Drama will start eating Coming villages in one week. (I think that was the preparation time given)
Jus' predicting. Not accusing. Not me, sir, not me.
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser
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Looks like it took -4 days from your prediction sumner :icon_razz:
DeletedUser
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My powers of prediction are so strong sometimes they predict the past. :icon_cool:
DeletedUser
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Yup,we recruit everyone. who needs war right?? Should make things easy for Nooble then :icon_razz:
I beg to differ
Nooble's Top 4 rimmed players (Non internal)
[spoil]#2 Tw3ntyFouR 68 conquers 1.58%
#3 Leodon 66 conquers 1.54%
#4 NeokT 62 conquers 1.44%
#5 FreewayJet 53 conquers 1.23%[/spoil]
Drama!'s top 4 players rimmed (non internal)
[spoil]#2 suigenlord 104 conquers 1.54%
#3 biberbey 92 conquers 1.36%
#5 Ysiek 66 conquers 0.98%
#7 davidemah 62 conquers 0.92%[/spoil]
And we don't kill things?
Don't see any of those players receiving invites.
I realize your response was to roy, but I believe his comment was a continuation of mine. My original comment was in regards to RIM!. Through their recruitment, you gained close to 2K's. Clearly you weren't going to recruit anyone from a tribe like BA-I, which I think is self-explanatory. If you say you own the north through war, thats perfectly fine as RIM! was defeated by you. But referencing your expansion as killing things isn't exactly accurate, considering 25% of your members and points are ex-RIM (that excludes spotted cow).
In addition, referencing the top players that were rimmed isn't an accurate portrayal of a conflict. Since the start of the world*:
Drama!(61m) have gained 47.5m points from conquers, which means they have recruited ~13.5m points (22%). Drama! has gained 7.1m from BA-I, representing 11.6% of their growth and 15% of their growth ex-recruitment.
Nooble (35.6m) have nobled 31.2m points, meaning they have recruited ~4.4m points (12.4%). Nooble has gained 5.5m off of COMING, representing 15% of their growth and 17.5% of their growth ex-recruitment.
So if you really want to compare us and actually show something, you might want to dig a little deeper than a couple conquers against barely active/inactive players. The fact that we have more relative growth than recruitment compared to Drama! leaves you with little room to brag or criticize us in that category. One last thing:
Tribal ODA
1 Who needs it? 210,02 Mio.
2 Noobs Nobling You! 140,16 Mio.
3 Baby Bombers 136,84 Mio.
4 Stealin These AwSum TVs Is Cool! 67,05 Mio.
5 BA-I 50,53 Mio.
6 Voodoo the Sequel 39,97 Mio.
Not sure if you noticed, but the tribe you ripped on as simply "food" (Voodoo) is barely behind BA-I in offensive production. However, the tribe we are fighting are close to producing the same amount of ODA as us. I realize that COMING was slightly more productive early on, but them fighting back accounts for 16m ODA since the start of our war, or 33% of ALL of BA-I's ODA. Somehow I'm doubting comparing the two wars is worthwhile.
Regardless, clearly Drama! owns the north while Nooble are still in "conflict" to own the south. Obviously you're in a better position at the moment.
*I realize this isn't 100% accurate, as this doesn't account for small noblings and the building up of such villages. I still feel it gives a reasonable representation though.
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DeletedUser
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+1 best post in this thread.
Just for the Rim! recruitment and alot of the current Drama! members right now are from Rim!, Can not really do anything about players quitting/merging. Everyone has inactives that needs to be nobled. I for one was not happy with the recruitment of Rim! because it totally cut of my expansion, but i live with it and support and fight with them. Spotted cow can vouch for how upset i was
Rim! was a really good tribe, and if we did not recruit them and Nooble moved north. They probley would of recruited those members.They did recruit two of them. Would of helped them secure the North eastern Rim!
DeletedUser
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I'm not blaming you for recruiting them. I'm one of the ex-rim players that was recruited by nooble. I'm friends with at least 25% of your tribe and I'm very confident in their skill levels. It's smart recruitment, but it clearly factors into your expansion. Either way, I just don't see comparing the North/South expansions as practical. In all honesty though, I doubt nooble would have expanded north. They were too afraid of me :icon_wink:
DeletedUser
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What plan? Please message me that plan so I can get up to speed. Obviously you know more than I do about what our tribe is doing.
DeletedUser
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It's not too tough since you're never online silly :icon_rolleyes:
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser
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oh yeah like we are at war with Coming since someone gifted their villages to someone in our tribe. :icon_rolleyes:
I have been online more than you have.
DeletedUser27158
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Psh. We don't tell you anything. You're just the figurehead. Like the queen.
DeletedUser
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The end of BA_1 is near some fought well congrats to them for putting up a fight better luck in other worlds.
DeletedUser
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If thats the case, then apparently you suck:
18 Morning Sickness Nooble 1.804.854 182 9917
60 Rednecks Drama! 1.019.073 109 9349
Are you including the month I didn't have internet, in which time I dropped from #2 to #22?
DeletedUser
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We all know you are not the main player on the account. You are only up there because your Co is Epic, the fact she has to do double the work to make up for the nonsense you do is even more exceptional.
Ponds186
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BA-I was food. We ate a lot of them and there are still some leftovers which we will continue to eat at a leisurely pace now.
It was more like a practice session
So move on folks !!
It was more like a practice session
So move on folks !!
DeletedUser
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It is quite possible that I just suck. But then again I don't have a coplayer like Star doing most of the work for me nor have you had any responsibilites outside of managing your own account.
BA-I was food. We ate a lot of them and there are still some leftovers which we will continue to eat at a leisurely pace now.
It was more like a practice session
So move on folks !!
For the most part I agree with this but I will give Alf Hucker some kudos for fighting back. He did not exactly give away his villages. Had there been more players in BA-I like him this war would have lasted a lot longer than it would have.
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I heard north does the same, actually even more :icon_idea:
People talk about Drama!'s war with BA-I, they are considered as noobs by masses here and they probably aren't even worth to be mention so much here. While Coming is considered to be a top tribe, back in the day in most eyes Coming was seen as one of the most serious contenders in winning this world while they dominated core K and good stats in ODA and ODD showed that they were a warring tribe.
Probably that is the reason why Nooble is so happy and proud about them winning that war today, while diminishing Drama's victory against BA-I and writing down BA-I as easy walkover thus going that far and calling a tribe with top ODA score a hugging and peace making one and at the same time implying that warring Coming, a previous top tribe, is a though work and it is real war, not a walkover, i am not saying it isn't, but really are BA-I and Coming so far from each other ? Coming is not the same of what it used to be, what i'm trying to say is - did Coming as a tribe fallen down to the lvl of tribes like BA-I or maybe it was overrated all the time ?
Let's take a look at stats:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Drama!
Side 2:
Tribes: BA-I
Timeframe: Forever
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 872
Side 2: 94
Difference: 778
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 7,296,470
Side 2: 840,760
Difference: 6,455,710
[spoil]Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 662
Side 2: 68
Difference: 594
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 5,725,435
Side 2: 618,000
Difference: 5,107,435
Seems to me as both wars is just a walkover, BA-I took even more villages from Drama, than Coming did from Nooble.
Now these stats doesn't show whole picture as it's only conquers. Which tribe Nooble or Drama! worked more to get their villages, i will compare OD scores of last 30 days, that will cover all of wars which happened in last month including motive and voodoo/ass, however it will include our fest on small guys after morale went off, but let's hope it won't change whole picture significantly as hopefully it should equate each other since both tribes eat small guys, but over all it will show who killed more.
Nooble gained 88mio ODA and 35 mio ODD, that's equal to 123mio OD total.
Drama! gained 137mio ODA and 34 mio ODD, that's equal to 171mio OD total.
*note - i understand it doesn't show the intensity of wars mentioned above, but it gives us picture of what tribes have been doing in last month
We can see that Drama! gained considerably more ODA, but both tribes basically got the same amount of ODD while mainly warring 2 tribes of different caliber, but got attacked pretty much with the same amount of nukes during that period.
It took roughly a month for Drama! to beat BA-I, from what i see Nooble/Coming war is very similar, tho it should take more time to end it due to difference of size between tribes, Drama! simply overwhelmed BA-I, while Nooble and Coming are at similar size and it looks like it's the only reason why Coming is still here, not because they are fighting back.
That's just some food for thoughts, both Drama! and Nooble are killing i will say, noobish tribes, probably the end war will show which tribe is better thus if noble would win that war we could say that Coming was better than BA-I, but for now i see both as equal thus no one should be really proud of beating such tribes :icon_razz:
It was fun while it lasted, maybe we will have a second round in some other world
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DeletedUser
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I heard north does the same, actually even more :icon_idea:
[spoil]
People talk about Drama!'s war with BA-I, they are considered as noobs by masses here and they probably aren't even worth to be mention so much here. While Coming is considered to be a top tribe, back in the day in most eyes Coming was seen as one of the most serious contenders in winning this world while they dominated core K and good stats in ODA and ODD showed that they were a warring tribe.
Probably that is the reason why Nooble is so happy and proud about them winning that war today, while diminishing Drama's victory against BA-I and writing down BA-I as easy walkover thus going that far and calling a tribe with top ODA score a hugging and peace making one and at the same time implying that warring Coming, a previous top tribe, is a though work and it is real war, not a walkover, i am not saying it isn't, but really are BA-I and Coming so far from each other ? Coming is not the same of what it used to be, what i'm trying to say is - did Coming as a tribe fallen down to the lvl of tribes like BA-I or maybe it was overrated all the time ?
Let's take a look at stats:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Drama!
Side 2:
Tribes: BA-I
Timeframe: Forever
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 872
Side 2: 94
Difference: 778
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 7,296,470
Side 2: 840,760
Difference: 6,455,710
[/spoil]
[spoil]Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 662
Side 2: 68
Difference: 594
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 5,725,435
Side 2: 618,000
Difference: 5,107,435
[/spoil]
Seems to me as both wars is just a walkover, BA-I took even more villages from Drama, than Coming did from Nooble.
Now these stats doesn't show whole picture as it's only conquers. Which tribe Nooble or Drama! worked more to get their villages, i will compare OD scores of last 30 days, that will cover all of wars which happened in last month including motive and voodoo/ass, however it will include our fest on small guys after morale went off, but let's hope it won't change whole picture significantly as hopefully it should equate each other since both tribes eat small guys, but over all it will show who killed more.
Nooble gained 88mio ODA and 35 mio ODD, that's equal to 123mio OD total.
Drama! gained 137mio ODA and 34 mio ODD, that's equal to 171mio OD total.
*note - i understand it doesn't show the intensity of wars mentioned above, but it gives us picture of what tribes have been doing in last month
We can see that Drama! gained considerably more ODA, but both tribes basically got the same amount of ODD while mainly warring 2 tribes of different caliber, but got attacked pretty much with the same amount of nukes during that period.
It took roughly a month for Drama! to beat BA-I, from what i see Nooble/Coming war is very similar, tho it should take more time to end it due to difference of size between tribes, Drama! simply overwhelmed BA-I, while Nooble and Coming are at similar size and it looks like it's the only reason why Coming is still here, not because they are fighting back.
That's just some food for thoughts, both Drama! and Nooble are killing i will say, noobish tribes, probably the end war will show which tribe is better thus if noble would win that war we could say that Coming was better than BA-I, but for now i see both as equal thus no one should be really proud of beating such tribes :icon_razz:
It was fun while it lasted, maybe we will have a second round in some other world
Since you quoted a comment that was about offensive production, that's what I'll address. Using absolutes is a useless way of comparing objects of different values. If Allos? nobles 10 villages in a day, it's a hell of a lot less impressive than someone 1/100th his size doing the same.
So lets address the stats you mentioned:
Nooble gained 88mio ODA - Nooble gained 2.41 ODA per point and 22.6k per village.
Drama! gained 137mio ODA - Drama gained 2.23 and 20.8k, respectively.
This equates to Nooble producing 8% more offense on a size adjusted basis. Sure you produced more absolutely. Again though, that's not useful in comparisons.
As I said in my previous post, I really don't think the wars are comparable in any way. Most of the comments don't simply address one war. Most of the useful comments refer to all the wars that have taken place, not just one cleanup or another. Isolating single incidents to compare tribes is a useless method.
Jealousy looks good on you two :icon_wink:
Red,
I have had many responsibilities outside of managing my account. These include (but are not limited to):
Insulting Canadians
Insulting Australians
Insulting New Jersey
Insulting Rednecks (the non-specific type)
Insulting whatever Allos? is
co-duking a tribe
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