TSL want Candy!!!

[DeletedUser]

TSL is winning the war, Twist! is winning the world.


First off; "Please note that once a world has been closed for at least 9 months the dominance criteria will be reduced to 70%."

Please don't use incorrect stats, as it invalidates everything you say.

Secondly, here is the village count as of August 9th;

TSL - 61294
Twist - 68033

Difference? 6861.

Village counts as of today;

TSL - 64,440
Twist! - 67,196

Difference? 2756 villages.

So in 16 days we shrunk the gap by 4106 villages. And since apparently the stats for one time-frame can be used to estimate the length of time the war will take (As per your math) I'll use this stat to estimate the length of the war.

And since, with current villages, we would need 93800 villages (well, once the world has been closed for 9 months. I think it has, but not sure) to start end-game. At a rate of 4106 villages per 16 days, it will take TSL

(93800-64440)/(4106/16) = ~115 days to win this world. :icon_rolleyes:

There's a reason people don't use math to predict the future. Math doesn't compensate for discrepancies, which makes the math predicting the future invalid. So get your head out of your butt and think about it logically.

TSL is winning the war, seeing as we have more conquers over your tribe than yours does over ours. (The last year, the last 6 months, the last 3 months, the last 24 hours, etc.) Twist! is winning the world right now because they have more villages over us. But as seen by the recent stats, that might be short-lived. Mind you the only reason you came to such a village advantage was from your merge with a really bad tribe. And since this merge, we've actually increased the amount of caps/day we get on twist!. Worked out for us nicely :lol:

 

[DeletedUser97878]

Oh i forgot we had our own stats recorded and i just assumed tollxbooth showed correct figures :icon_neutral: i am a noob..... Yeah i must of picked off loads down south

 

[DeletedUser]

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So Twist has outgained TSL by 6000 villages in the last 6 months, yet TSL is winning?


Not only is it not even close to TSL winning the war, i would say that even with the horrible leadership in Twist, Twist is actually winning.....

Numbers dont lie

Those 6000 vills are 500(that elite tribe) vills...after the merge.
TSL will win this world...no doubt:icon_wink:
Time needed?....Some twisties gone barbs, some conquered, some recruited....and is done.
The gap...at this rate?...2-3 months and TSL will have more vills than twist.
Questions?

Twist raising::icon_biggrin:
[SPOIL]
2012-06-15 Twist! 2. +109 61,826
2012-06-14 Twist! 2. +108 61,480
2012-06-13 Twist! 2. +107 60,959
2012-06-12 Twist! 2. =104 56,741
2012-06-11 Twist! 2. =104 56,546
2012-06-10 Twist! 2. +104 56,381
2012-06-09 Twist! 2. =103 55,454
2012-06-08 Twist! 2. -103 55,358
2012-06-07 Twist! 2. =104 55,150
2012-06-06 Twist! 2. =104 55,005
2012-06-05 Twist! 2. -104 54,889
2012-06-04 Twist! 2. +105 54,776
2012-06-03 Twist! 2. +101 51,780
2012-06-02 Twist! 2. +99 50,927
2012-06-01 Twist! 2. +92 48,146
2012-05-31 Twist! 2. +85 47,869
2012-05-30 Twist! 2. +80 47,103
2012-05-29 Twist! 2. +74 46,467
2012-05-28 Twist! 2. 58 43,382[/SPOIL]

 

[DeletedUser]

Another thing when the barbs run out then we see exactly who has skill and who has just been going with the flow,

That is still over a yr away anyway i reckon after that i for 1 will obviously show you what i can do.

World is still developing and will be for a while yet, You got another nice advantage and you took it it tells me even more what type of people you are in RL even if you think i am talking crap.

Just remember the saying nah i would of thought some of you know it even if you think it means nothing.

More to your understanding the dark side always loses in the end never under-estimate the force:icon_wink:

 

[DeletedUser]

Maybe we are The Jedi...undercover...who knows?!:icon_cool:

 

[DeletedUser]

Nah you have no morals your the dark side all the way you got your name spot on,

But doesn't mean you won't win so don't lose heart mr split head.

Sometimes you have to do what you know is wrong if winning is all you care about been there and know the score,
I only speak for myself but i prefer to play with certain standards even if i end i up losing at least i know i played fair and need i say again never cheated or co-ed just me and my comp:lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

As far as the bad guys always losing, which tribe is worse? The tribe that sprouted from 'Anarky' and 'SnM,' or the tribe that just wants to rule the universe? I think it's obvious which tribe is more 'Twisted.'

 

[DeletedUser]

Hahaha tribe maybe but account you will have to do alot better than that to be more twisted than me bud,
Get some voddy or whisky down ya you will never come close till you find the drunken monkey style :icon_wink:

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm not sure I want to be more twisted than you bud

I generally go for the Tequila, with the occasional "voddy."

 

[DeletedUser]

I start with a litre of voddy then move onto whatever is within reach ya then i log in and laugh at your tribes feeble attacks.
If i play straight it is plain boring no fun sniping a 5 nob nuke sub sec train if you not got a drunken handicap.

Really no need for anything more anyway ok you got 3 ,4 or 5 guys that can play but your pussy's and always will be,
Give me a full op if you can put 1 together anymore and i promise i will actually bother to attack you and defend for 1 month aswell ya

 

[DeletedUser]

As I said before Itchy, there is no reason for us to op you right now. The gain wouldn't be worth the troops However, we will gladly target players who waste 600k troops defending two 1.5k barbs deep in our territory and yet have only 40k stacks on their front-line villas (Case-in-point: Carlhd). Appears he needs to get his priorities checked out

 

[DeletedUser97878]

Those 6000 vills are 500(that elite tribe) vills...after the merge.
TSL will win this world...no doubt:icon_wink:
Time needed?....Some twisties gone barbs, some conquered, some recruited....and is done.
The gap...at this rate?...2-3 months and TSL will have more vills than twist.
Questions?

Twist raising::icon_biggrin:
[SPOIL]
2012-06-15 Twist! 2. +109 61,826
2012-06-14 Twist! 2. +108 61,480
2012-06-13 Twist! 2. +107 60,959
2012-06-12 Twist! 2. =104 56,741
2012-06-11 Twist! 2. =104 56,546
2012-06-10 Twist! 2. +104 56,381
2012-06-09 Twist! 2. =103 55,454
2012-06-08 Twist! 2. -103 55,358
2012-06-07 Twist! 2. =104 55,150
2012-06-06 Twist! 2. =104 55,005
2012-06-05 Twist! 2. -104 54,889
2012-06-04 Twist! 2. +105 54,776
2012-06-03 Twist! 2. +101 51,780
2012-06-02 Twist! 2. +99 50,927
2012-06-01 Twist! 2. +92 48,146
2012-05-31 Twist! 2. +85 47,869
2012-05-30 Twist! 2. +80 47,103
2012-05-29 Twist! 2. +74 46,467
2012-05-28 Twist! 2. 58 43,382[/SPOIL]

The Dark master is alive on the externals once again :icon_eek:

 

[DeletedUser]

What was that all about??


Twist have higher vill's,better players we may aswell quit now was that the jist of it ya???

The dark master my rear crack gotta watch those words i am on a refraction ting again so can't be too blunt with ya might hurt some of your feelings and make you jump off a bridge while strapped to my hero kermit the frog or??

Possibly a lesser crime but defo to me maybe do some tomb stoning with lassie strapped to your feet??
Poor lil lassie what did she ever do to you ya brutal murderers, shame on you:icon_surprised:

 

[DeletedUser]

Twist! have better players than TSL? :icon_rolleyes: :lol:

I think you have been drinking a little too much

 

[DeletedUser]

No doubt i have as usual but still waiting for you to prove you got anything to worry me,
Been there seen it remember just cause i haven't pushed you back does that mean i am crap or just i need more players around me with a few brain cells??
Time is a ticking and you may regret me sticking around,
Still not bothered with any of you yet just dealt with deleters, quiters and peeps unprepared but the time will come had a lil fun with some babyface vill's sorry expertzu you took most the hits.
Will send you some resources to rebuild all those farms bud.
D your a funny guy and growing in rep but until you use your power you will always be the guy i raped on hell account shit you had those vill's 4 or 5 days before i got sit ans still i took em all with what 1 nuke loss??

P.s you got that t train going yet might give you half a chance but 200ms is pretty easy,
200ms from 4 vill's is a better bet but thats easy aswell shit nothing you guys got means anything will leave it to my left ball he is pretty reliable

 

[DeletedUser]

I took 5 villa from 2 K's away from my closest villa, back when I was still a complete noob, and you are bragging about taking empty villages with no attempt at sniping/defending/retaking. :icon_confused:

I've been using my power just not on you. Nobody has been using their power on you. Why? Because you (with 20m+ points) haven't taken a TSL village in over 3 months. Until you use your power, you'll be remembered as the guy who got bullied out of K44 You're rank 10, but only rank 31 in ODA?

You're a good guy Itchy, but sometimes (okay, always) you talk out of your butt


And as far as getting Twist! players with more brain-cells....good luck. A human can never get new brain-cells, only lose them. Seems like it's downhill from here

 

[DeletedUser]

Fair comment you still remember and yh i can talk shit and always will it's a game after all so means nothing,
3 months your way off there more like 12 months or did i take a few recaps cause someone got in trouble again,
Told ya i have sent on what 3 or 4 twist ops since joining when was that 2 yrs ago, i tried to play the tribe game, nukes have always been there just core has always been abit slack on peeps willing to attack.
Mate i am an attacker if i decide to target you maybe you will regret questioning how easy i could send you back to nubsville.
It really is simple though just why bother when i go alone then your tribemates recap me??

All easy answers and questions but wwhen or where will they end??

What you fancy 400 cat nukes or 300 nob nukes i am easy mate you can have both if you want
:icon_surprised:

 

[DeletedUser]

I don't want either mate :icon_wink: I think the Grinreefer account wants those though, if you don't mind sending to it <3

'Don't hit me' sent me one hundred cat nukes (400 cats each), and they almost all went splat. Over here in TSL we are a team, not a group of individuals. Shame your tribe allows you to sit idle and do as you please, especially since doing as you please is getting 0 caps.

 

[DeletedUser]

First off, be a player who has done something, otherwise it invalidates everything you say

OK, lets break down your garble....

TSL - 61294
Twist - 68033

Difference? 6861.

Village counts as of today;

TSL - 64,440
Twist! - 67,196

Difference? 2756 villages.

So in 16 days we shrunk the gap by 4106 villages. And since apparently the stats for one time-frame can be used to estimate the length of time the war will take (As per your math) I'll use this stat to estimate the length of the war.

You conveniently forget to add my villages to the equation, and most importantly, you used a selection set of 16 days.

Both are a demonstration of why you are unable to argue the facts i laid out.
*One is a weak attempt to show dominance

*The other tells anyone that knows anything that you dont know what the hell your talking about. You are choosing a random 16 day selection set over the 180 day i was using. Everyone knows that the shorter the set, the less reliable it is.

Now, why 16 days? Why not go the full 30? Oh, i see why....

Last 30 days of growth

TSL: +5000 vills
Twist (counting my vills): +5200 vills

Ahhh...so 16 days was used to skew the numbers are greatly as possible, but as you can see, if you use 30 day, or the more reliable 180 days, the numbers become less and less impressive until it shows a dominate growth rate by Twist

Math is interesting, isnt it?

There's a reason people don't use math to predict the future. Math doesn't compensate for discrepancies, which makes the math predicting the future invalid. So get your head out of your butt and think about it logically.

Now, i wont address your other non sense because its not math, its not logical nor will i go into a debate about the aforementioned statement. Being that math is used to predict many things in life tells me you obviously have never taken any real math, nor understand the concept, so i will stop with the math and address your other random thoughts

TSL is winning the war, seeing as we have more conquers over your tribe than yours does over ours. (The last year, the last 6 months, the last 3 months, the last 24 hours, etc.)

Again, you are speaking from a very narrow minded vantage point, and one that is so minute, that its inconsequential.

Has TSL taken more vills from Twist than Twist from TSL? yes, indisputable

Has Twist grown at a more rapid rate than TSL, hence is in better shape compared to TSL now then at the start of the war? yes, indisputable

Therefore, when you look at the full picture, how is TSL winning the war? They have taken more vills from the enemy, but have been outgrown exponentially by the opponent...and the difference in caps from the enemy is a mere .25% relative to the growth of Twist to TSL

(oops...threw math in there again, my bad...dont want to confuse you more lol)

Mind you the only reason you came to such a village advantage was from your merge with a really bad tribe. And since this merge, we've actually increased the amount of caps/day we get on twist!

Ahh.....thanks for this volley

So if you go back to my previous post, where i demonstrate that Twist has outgrown TSL by 6600 vills in the last 6 months

So you and Open think because of the merge Twist got the advantage....stop being lazy with arguments that can be researched because 500's largest size was less than 3000 villages

So even if you remove the merge with 500, Twist has out gained TSL by 3600 villages in the last 6 months

As for the change in caps of late, its because you got a good one in veng doing her double spy whatever thing (im not mad about this, war is all about spies and double crossing, so good stuff there)...

but even with this, Twist continues to outpace you all

So my friend, weve proven you dont know how to do math nor how to research. Just because you said it doesnt make it true.. I havent skewed anything like you tried to (16 day sample set LMAO). Im just laying out the facts

Does TSL have a better tribe? Absolutely. Although I think you guys are quite soft (so is Twist), but you have phenomenal defensive teamwork

Twist lacked leadership ever since Firey left and the tribe turned its back on Smint...but it has some players in it, just not a lot

but even with your great defense, your going to have to eventually be aggressors, and that is your guys downfall.....

The war is not even close to even think about it coming close to an end game. Heck, ill say the game is just starting now....



Firey, come back you jerk! hahahaha....this noob world needs you!

 

[DeletedUser]

Forgot to add your villages to the equation? Maybe that's because you aren't in Twist!? As I said, math sucks at calculating discrepancies, and someone leaving their tribe and asking the enemy for a NAP (LMAO) in my opinion constitutes removal from the stats.

Proof of your NAP request. Laughable really.
[spoil]TollxBooth Aug 23,2012 13:57
nap?

open mind Aug 23,2012 16:55


TollxBooth Aug 23,2012 16:57
its yes or no.....either way i am fine

open mind Aug 23,2012 16:58
then doesn't matter

TollxBooth Aug 23,2012 17:00
just clarity....so looks like no

we continue on

open mind Aug 23,2012 17:01
yep...the show must go on)[/spoil]

You used a selection set of 180 days, I wonder why that is. Oh, maybe because that is when (after 365 days of war) Twist! finally decided to wake up and noble some barbs when they realized that they couldn't noble villages off of TSL. Why not use the average of the entire war (a much more suitable selection set when calculating the future) instead of a more appealing 180 days. In case you missed it, my 16 day selection set was a way of mocking you. Apparently you missed that point

Now, why 16 days? Why not go the full 30? Oh, i see why....

Last 30 days of growth

TSL: +5000 vills
Twist (counting my vills): +5200 vills

Ahhh...so 16 days was used to skew the numbers are greatly as possible, but as you can see, if you use 30 day, or the more reliable 180 days, the numbers become less and less impressive until it shows a dominate growth rate by Twist

What are you on about? Are you pulling stats out of your butt?

Last 30 days (7/25-8/25)

TSL: 7911 Total conquers - 2082 internal conquers - 105 lost to Twist! = 5724 villages gained
Twist!: 5933 Total conquers - 2037 internal conquers - 497 lost to TSL = 3399 villages gained

I've taken up to calculus, and will continue on in mathematics through college, so I can understand your failed addition.

Again, you are speaking from a very narrow minded vantage point, and one that is so minute, that its inconsequential.

Has TSL taken more vills from Twist than Twist from TSL? yes, indisputable

Has Twist grown at a more rapid rate than TSL, hence is in better shape compared to TSL now then at the start of the war? yes, indisputable

Therefore, when you look at the full picture, how is TSL winning the war? They have taken more vills from the enemy, but have been outgrown exponentially by the opponent...and the difference in caps from the enemy is a mere .25% relative to the growth of Twist to TSL

How can you say Twist! is winning the war when EVEN WITH their exponential growth (Which has recently turned into exponential decay lol) they still fail to cap more villages from TSL than we do to them. If even with a 5860+* village boost from 500 they fail to turn the tide, what will happen when they once again fall below the TSL village count? You say Twist! is in better shape than it was at the start of the war....haha can you really say that? Once again, math is failing you. Mathematically, Twist! is better off as far as villages go. But Twist! is in a much bigger hole with their leadership problems than mathematics can hope to show.

*Underlined this because you said Twist! didn't gain more than 3000 villages from the merge with 500.

As Open Mind showed;
[spoil]2012-06-15 Twist! 2. +109 61,826
2012-06-14 Twist! 2. +108 61,480
2012-06-13 Twist! 2. +107 60,959
2012-06-12 Twist! 2. =104 56,741
2012-06-11 Twist! 2. =104 56,546
2012-06-10 Twist! 2. +104 56,381
2012-06-09 Twist! 2. =103 55,454
2012-06-08 Twist! 2. -103 55,358
2012-06-07 Twist! 2. =104 55,150
2012-06-06 Twist! 2. =104 55,005
2012-06-05 Twist! 2. -104 54,889
2012-06-04 Twist! 2. +105 54,776
2012-06-03 Twist! 2. +101 51,780
2012-06-02 Twist! 2. +99 50,927
2012-06-01 Twist! 2. +92 48,146
2012-05-31 Twist! 2. +85 47,869
2012-05-30 Twist! 2. +80 47,103
2012-05-29 Twist! 2. +74 46,467
2012-05-28 Twist! 2. 58 43,382[/spoil]

From 5-28 through 6-14 Twist! gained (3888 total - 747 internal) = 3141 villages through conquers. They, however, rose a total of (61826-43382) = 18444 villages over this period. Twist! gained (18444-3141) = 15303 villages from the 500 + Arai merger. You then subtract the most villages Arai ever had (9443) to get a total of (15303-9443) = 5860 villages from 500 ) Probably more considering the max village count of 500 is actually 7491, but it's hard to calculate seeing as twist! members leave and join as they please throughout this period of tracking.

You looked at the wrong 500 tribal profile bud You know...the one that only had 66 conquers in its history. :icon_rolleyes: (http://www.twstats.com/en46/index.php?page=tribe&id=15390)


And by the way, TSL are agressors. I'd say we are equally as good at attacking as we are defending. Twist! struggles in both categories unfortunately :S