A Calm. voice speaks.....

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So we all know Valour invited Deus.

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Was the world aware that Calm had, at the time, recently started ops on alot of those players....and had claims on most the others?

[spoil] [0343] Keep Calm And Carry On (507|571) K55 9,479 bigblue8081 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-07-07 01:28:45
[0358] Keep Calm And Carry On (513|569) K55 9,912 ralph the king [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-07-03 22:35:43
[0331] Keep Calm And Carry On (443|578) K54 9,496 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-07-02 01:11:29
[0328] Keep Calm And Carry On (459|580) K54 9,491 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-07-01 00:21:02
[0298] Keep Calm And Carry On (511|574) K55 10,029 Neeus [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-30 21:07:52
[0322] Keep Calm And Carry On (456|582) K54 8,905 hoopdee2857 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-29 19:02:15
[0024] Keep Calm And Carry On (450|582) K54 8,943 hoopdee2857 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-29 18:05:58
[0303] Keep Calm And Carry On (442|582) K54 9,520 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-29 09:56:46
[0447] Keep Calm And Carry On (440|582) K54 7,582 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-29 04:09:24
[0338] Keep Calm And Carry On (447|588) K54 8,848 hoopdee2857 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-28 17:43:34
[0337] Keep Calm And Carry On (459|581) K54 6,400 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-28 15:58:30
[0177] Keep Calm And Carry On (445|581) K54 9,496 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-28 04:04:10
[0387] Keep Calm And Carry On (442|581) K54 6,422 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-28 03:30:21
[0293] Keep Calm And Carry On (443|582) K54 8,045 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-28 02:27:35
K55 (583|541) K55 4,457 killsong [Deus] nitto523 [Calm.] 2012-06-27 23:24:17
255 Calm. (510|558) K55 9,479 bigblue8081 [Deus] vtsuperboi [Calm.] 2012-06-27 22:21:57
Desolated Swampland-10 (592|913) K95 7,820 hoopdee2857 [Deus] crazyeight [Calm.] 2012-06-27 18:34:42
[0183] Keep Calm And Carry On (445|592) K54 9,184 Beckington [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-27 18:01:38
Noble (527|569) K55 9,722 duckshooter [Deus] Thak [Calm.] 2012-06-27 16:08:52
[0369] Keep Calm And Carry On (448|597) K54 3,802 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-27 02:01:35
[0449] Keep Calm And Carry On (444|590) K54 9,496 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-27 00:44:31
[0020] Keep Calm And Carry On (480|589) K54 10,205 High Class [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-27 00:16:44
[0136] Keep Calm And Carry On (483|589) K54 7,415 High Class [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-27 00:00:05
[0333] Keep Calm And Carry On (479|588) K54 9,286 High Class [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-26 23:42:51
[0242] Keep Calm And Carry On (452|594) K54 9,479 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-26 21:10:17
[0449] Keep Calm And Carry On (444|590) K54 9,493 astephen68 [Deus] Unknown** [Calm.] 2012-06-26 20:26:30
Pinky n Brain (513|563) K55 8,479 duckshooter [Deus] Pinky n the Brain [Calm.] 2012-06-26 06:37:16
V0294 (467|566) K54 6,255 duckshooter [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-26 04:05:59
V0294 (467|567) K54 7,107 duckshooter [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-25 22:46:45
Pinky n Brain (514|566) K55 9,537 duckshooter [Deus] Pinky n the Brain [Calm.] 2012-06-25 21:27:28
V0297 (470|565) K54 9,561 duckshooter [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-25 19:49:15
V0293 (466|567) K54 9,544 duckshooter [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-25 13:00:59
V0327 (503|561) K55 8,915 matteo1092 [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-24 01:31:28
V0328 (504|561) K55 9,914 ralph the king [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-23 14:36:51
V0327 (503|561) K55 8,911 matteo1092 [Deus] jfsmith3 [Calm.] 2012-06-22 21:00:41[/spoil]

Valour leadership knew inviting these players from deus would risk unnerving the Calm. The concern was so great that two days prior, they issued a BS circ to the members warning them to guard their villes.

[spoil]Capsule Corp. on 04.07. at 03:40
Hello Valourians.

I would like to ask for every member on the front with Calm. to be on full alert in the next few days incase they decide to spring board an attack on us.

I expect things are just a misunderstanding and their members trying to get their own way with a few thing's but information leadership have obtained in the last couple of days have lead us to be more concerned - We have no Intentions of ending the Alliance or attacking them as however I would rather be ready than not but to make it clear no one is to provoke or give them an excuse to pick at us. I wish to be positive that we can maintain healthy relations with them.

For players with isolated villages on their front's either stack them or mail me and we will get things sorted.

Regards
Sp. & Leadership[/spoil]

Enough on how Valour most recently slighted Calm. for now.

What should be distressing to the world is this:

Secret Owner Location
Mechanical Clock (3x)
drick01 034 Aero (452|531) K54
sc0ter SC[14:73:34]TER (434|173) K14
im2x3m4u -0301- Valour! (510|402) K45

I might not agree with them, but we are all aware that you must have a whole set of all secrets to win the world right?

Calm is vehemently opposed to Valour controlling a whole secret set. This was the issue when Valour had put noble claims on the secrets and kept refreshing it. This is why we were willing to talk to Deus when they came knocking. This is why we accepted the offer to be transfered the Mechanical Clock. Our acceptance was the reason for Valour upping the offer. They wanted to have ALL the mechanical clocks. No one tribe should hold a set of the same secret unless they are claiming dominance over all else. Period.

Is this what Valour is doing? We think so.

So in light of all this, we remained Calm. Laid back...chill. Taking our time. Looking the situation over. Watching to see how the secrets would clone. Discussing what the best course of action would be to address such a blatant offense to Calm, and frankly, the whole world with the acquisition of all the mechanical clocks. Contemplation time is now over.

In the face of all these realities, there can only be one course of action.

We, Calm., officially insist on the immediate dismissal of the xDeus group from our ally Valour, so that our previously planned ops can be continued and so that Calm can forcibly take over the mechanical clock so as to preserve a balance of power in this fine world.

Calm. Leadership

 

[DeletedUser]

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[DeletedUser]

Ohh cmon!... valour please kick deus, calm voice?.. More like sissy voice, jeez grow a pair will you, you couldn't sort this out in game?? you had to plead on the the forums for valour to hear, it is obvious valour will beat you guys eventually when your players burn out, attack them now, fresh from a merge you can nail them hard.. might actually give you a fighting chance..


You guys are acting like valours bitch.

P.s no offence

 

[sp.ag]

As suspected everything I have ever been told by Calm leadership seems to go against this post in the mean time they tried to force our hand into backstabbing our relations with SPAM because they were the "greater good" has been proven by this.

If you wish to of discussed this with me should of done so away from public eye I would been more of happy to do so.

As much as I like the attempt for you guys to make us look like the aggressors I am sure since you have one circular you would see several other's I have sent to my tribe regarding the importance of maintaining healthy relations with you guys. I would also be more inclined to discuss the option of the secret being handed over if Calm hadn't tried to undermine the alliance and use our claiming as the reason to do so.

What's funnier is that you have not been told several of those you planned to OP would of been invited to the basher tribes regardless of what OP's you had planned thus another excuse being hurled out of the air to force the issue.

So I will put this to the eye of everyone else.

My tolerance for Bull-crap from the leadership in Calm has grown thinner by the day and now an attempt to through a public stunt of PnP spinning against an already anti Valour forum. I love you guys forever more may I add.

My official answer will be Like hell will we; A full set of one secret that hasn't full spread yet? My assumptions were right in you guys trying to find an excuse to cause trouble if this is what was planned all along. Makes sense for the hurry from Aidan to force us into a choice and paranoia amonst a bunch of other things and refusal in acknowledging. that helping an opposing tribe against their allies was wrong.

I expect none of the agreement's if I refuse to be met either if I stick to my answer?

If you wish to discuss it further then you know where to find me.

 

[DeletedUser]

And SPAM just won the world.

gratz.

 

[DeletedUser]

Not nice trying to get Valour to declare on us is it Joe?

Hurt :icon_cry:

 

[DeletedUser]

First. even though i dont play the world anymore.





Sorry, just had to do it.

Awh, Don't be THAT guy that posts the "First".

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Captured the mood quite well.

Ohh cmon!... valour please kick deus, calm voice?.. More like sissy voice, jeez grow a pair will you, you couldn't sort this out in game?? you had to plead on the the forums for valour to hear, it is obvious valour will beat you guys eventually when your players burn out, attack them now, fresh from a merge you can nail them hard.. might actually give you a fighting chance..


You guys are acting like valours bitch.

P.s no offence

Sissy voice?

Sissy voice would be allowing Valour to recruit this meat-shield of Deus, basically our garbage. We grew a pair quite well, and just told Valour that we will not stand for this recruitment. We want the entire world to know that Calm. is not a group of sissies, and we will gladly fight aganist what we believe is wrong.

In terms of Valour beating us, don't worry. I already deleted my account.

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As suspected everything I have ever been told by Calm leadership seems to go against this post in the mean time they tried to force our hand into backstabbing our relations with SPAM because they were the "greater good" has been proven by this.

If you wish to of discussed this with me should of done so away from public eye I would been more of happy to do so.

As much as I like the attempt for you guys to make us look like the aggressors I am sure since you have one circular you would see several other's I have sent to my tribe regarding the importance of maintaining healthy relations with you guys. I would also be more inclined to discuss the option of the secret being handed over if Calm hadn't tried to undermine the alliance and use our claiming as the reason to do so.

What's funnier is that you have not been told several of those you planned to OP would of been invited to the basher tribes regardless of what OP's you had planned thus another excuse being hurled out of the air to force the issue.

So I will put this to the eye of everyone else.

My tolerance for Bull-crap from the leadership in Calm has grown thinner by the day and now an attempt to through a public stunt of PnP spinning against an already anti Valour forum. I love you guys forever more may I add.

My official answer will be Like hell will we; A full set of one secret that hasn't full spread yet? My assumptions were right in you guys trying to find an excuse to cause trouble if this is what was planned all along. Makes sense for the hurry from Aidan to force us into a choice and paranoia amonst a bunch of other things and refusal in acknowledging. that helping an opposing tribe against their allies was wrong.

I expect none of the agreement's if I refuse to be met either if I stick to my answer?

If you wish to discuss it further then you know where to find me.

Awh Luke buddy, you never fail to write the first essay of the thread.

In response to your first point, I never, at least as Duke of Calm., tried to force you to go aganist your ally SPAM. Perhaps someone out of leadership contacted you?

And why would I want to discuss this privately? I want the entire world to know your agression and recruitment policy. And I highly doubt you would allow me a logical dicussion, as we saw in the case of VT and UK.

And if that's your official answer, I'd seriously advise you to reconsider.

-Duncan

P.S Love you too.

 

[DeletedUser]

And SPAM just won the world.

gratz.

Shouldn't you have quit already, Mr. Troll?

Not nice trying to get Valour to declare on us is it Joe?

Hurt :icon_cry:

We did no such thing.

-Duncan

 

[DeletedUser]

Oh Spaag. I have to many mails writen by u to ppl all over the world. One would say one thing, to someone else it would say something else. I personally have no interest in a private negotiation. Out in the open. Public. That way, i know its real.

As per your aidan comments. Few had any idea what the hell he was talking to ppl about. Thus, to be fair, Calm floundered a bit. Aidans gone. Strong leadership is set up. And Calm will not be slighted any more.

Not nice trying to get Valour to declare on us is it Joe?

Hurt :icon_cry:

Yes...Joe.
but no... i never talk to valour. might of been aidan. Irrelevant really, as he would of had a revolt on his hands if he tried to make a war with Spam... Irrelevant with aidan gone as it just wont happen.

 

[DeletedUser]

Oh Spaag. I have to many mails writen by u to ppl all over the world. One would say one thing, to someone else it would say something else. I personally have no interest in a private negotiation. Out in the open. Public. That way, i know its real.

As per your aidan comments. Few had any idea what the hell he was talking to ppl about. Thus, to be fair, Calm floundered a bit. Aidans gone. Strong leadership is set up. And Calm will not be slighted any more.





Yes...Joe.
but no... i never talk to valour. might of been aidan. Irrelevant really, as he would of had a revolt on his hands if he tried to make a war with Spam... Irrelevant with aidan gone as it just wont happen.

Ok . You were being so nice to me the other day on Skype :icon_rolleyes:

 

[DeletedUser]

Ok . You were being so nice to me the other day on Skype :icon_rolleyes:

I'm nice to everyone that is nice back. That might be why ppl so willingly share spaag's mail.

 

[DeletedUser105228]

Should be fun.

 

[ampac]

Wha new thread?

The topic right now is good...It speaks about the 3 powerhouse tribes and their diplomacy. Spag's real thoughts on calm shows what they want to do with the world.....But I doubt if they will push for it cause they can't even crush small tribes( well they could always recruit them)...

But hey if this happens it will be real funny....

 

[DeletedUser]

Wait wasn't calm actively recruiting members of deus while valour was attacking them and even went as far as supporting deus villages against valour nukes?

 

[sp.ag]

Wait wasn't calm actively recruiting members of deus while valour was attacking them and even went as far as supporting deus villages against valour nukes?

Yeah but supposedly that's not to much of a biggie in their eyes.

 

[DeletedUser]

Wha new thread?


The topic right now is good...It speaks about the 3 powerhouse tribes and their diplomacy. Spag's real thoughts on calm shows what they want to do with the world.....But I doubt if they will push for it cause they can't even crush small tribes( well they could always recruit them)...

But hey if this happens it will be real funny....

Really fun

-Duncan

Wait wasn't calm actively recruiting members of deus while valour was attacking them and even went as far as supporting deus villages against valour nukes?

Recruiting? Bah.
Supporting? Hardly.

-Duncan

Yeah but supposedly that's not to much of a biggie in their eyes.

Yes, 1 village really isn't an issue when your "ally" recruits 10 or so players right on your doorstep and doesn't call it agressive.

-Duncan

 

[DeletedUser]

So in essence calm forced valours hand into recruiting deus and now is complaining about it.

 

[King Sean04]

Yes, 1 village really isn't an issue when your "ally" recruits 10 or so players right on your doorstep and doesn't call it agressive.

-Duncan

I see, but nobling a barb right near it in the middle of Valour territory isn't? Nice to know :icon_rolleyes:

Proof just incase you need it: 455|530

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes or no calm supported deus against valour? Yes or no calm tried to recruit members of deus that valour were attacking?

 

[DeletedUser]

So in essence calm forced valours hand into recruiting deus and now is complaining about it.

No, not at all.

Valour learned we were looking for recruitment, from a spy and traitor, they immediately gave them a better offer and swept them from under our feet. Valour forced Calm.'s hand.

Yes or no calm supported deus against valour? Yes or no calm tried to recruit members of deus that valour were attacking?

Calm., as a tribe, did not support Deus aganist Valour.

Calm. only looked for the recruitment of skill players. We looked in Deus, we only found a few and none that Valour were attacking. Valour found out and recruited all these players. Unacceptable.

I see, but nobling a barb right near it in the middle of Valour territory isn't? Nice to know :icon_rolleyes:

Proof just incase you need it: 455|530

Yes, nobling a small barb is not at all an issue compared to 15 members and 10mil.+ points.

-Duncan
-Duncan