Hmmm. Are Turtle the best tribe? In my opinion, no. They've recruited and internalled multiple tribes and players. On top of that, they've nobled tons and tons of barbs to build their clusters.
1. Which tribe in this world doesn't have internals, who havent recruited/merged
2. Which tribes are farspread as we are other then cruel which take just as many barbs. A sign of quit players, and starting clusters for war efforts.
Sure, turtle may have been surrounded by tribes and been at war with multiple at once, but I don't think they've really fought anybody that they haven't recruited from, or put diplomacy in place to win the war.
we fought Skype for 4 months before there leadership shat the bed and there members came to us... any war tribe that has constantly had the upper hand on the bulk of there enemies this will happen. and again i would ask which tribe in this world hasnt recruited from a tribe they have been at war with or in conflict with? Cruel has, mayhem has, Captcha has and so has turtle...
Whenever Turtle would lose their #1 rank, they'd simply recruit a few of their basher or academy members to give them back the #1 spot.
This is just false... Turtle hasn't been rank#1 since what February! and just recently took number one as a result of cruel's issues not recruitment.
there was a merger between Ninja and turtle but that didnt put us at number one... and the whole point of an academy is to replace inactive, quit players... you sound surprised which is weird.
They certainly don't deserve the #1 spot in my opinion.
Sure, you can say they have high war ODA and ODD
but their ratio is only 3.4 and Ninja's is 2.5.
thats war ratios from ingame and only apply to tribes that declare all there conflicts as turtle does... that cant be said about most of the world so that stat is really skewed...
Here is a real ratio that shows some actual intel ie which tribes are agressive...
Turtles ODA ratio is: 5.46
Cruel ODA ratio is: 4.70
Mayhem ODA ratio is: 3.73
Captcha ODA ratio is: 4.21
On top of that, their recruitment policy is pretty non-existent, they pretty much let anybody into their academies and main branch, making it easy for spies to get in.
Cant really argue this all i can really say is that is no longer the case and noobs isnt running recruitment anymore.
Really, the best player in Turtle is Noobs. Noobs participates and has made war caps and fought both offensively and defensively.
Yes Noobs account is one of the better accounts in Turtle but there are several accounts with in turtle that are always attacking and help defend. the fact that you think only one account does that kind clouds your credibility in the rest of your comments to mention just a few would be;
messy, loc, roc, david, ect all do the things your talking about and there are many many more... the real difference between these accounts is activity/co players and location.
Here is the tribe changes for some of the tribes:
People have always posted these types of stats as if to say a tribe that recruits/mergers is somehow weaker then the ones that dont do that... which is a complete false hood, usually used to offset other bad stats with in the tribe posting this junk. i can post several smaller tribes in this world with much lower tribe changes then any of the top 5 tribes but there relevance or ability to win the world is extremely low. ultimately what happens as shown in Captcha is inactive strikes and you disband unless you bring in new players... other then that this stat shows very little...
If Cruel hadn't stepped into save Turtle from 800813 slaughtering them,
Tribes: Turtle, Ninja
Total conquers against opposite side:
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Bit of an over statement... the war in the beginning consisted of captcha hitting inactives and weak players from core... once they got to real players like loc, messy, or noobs there efforts were met with little to no gains whats so ever...
And if Turtle didn't have a seemingly endless supply of noobs to recruit,
I like that when turtle recruits or brings up players from the academy there noobs but when mayhem recruits skype left overs there top notch or captcha and selfie.... lmao Hippocrates at its finest.
then Turtle certainly wouldn't be where it is today. I imagine 800813 would have done a lot of damage to Turtle's core.
Woulda coulda should of... blah blah blah...
Sadly however, once Cruel declared in a surprise move against 800813,
This right here shows the issue with captcha... some great players with no real leadership... if you had leadership or really just someone leading at all it would have been perfectly clear that the longest standing alliance on w72 would fight each others war targets... that is just one of the most short sided things ive heard in this game. especially seeing that turtle and captcha have a very tiny board in comparison to Turtle/Mayhem or Cruel/Captcha... to think Cruel wouldnt attack you guys is just funny... Cruel didnt save turtle they definitely helped the players down there and are one of the best allies ive seen in this game and xmen one of the best leaders ive gotten a chance to know. but if you think cruel attacking captcha was saving turtle then the same could be said about Mayhem taking over the war from captcha against turtle when cruel did start attacks as mayhem have done far more in this war then captcha have... which by the way was expected on our side... #foresight
but their war stats (war rankings) are great, at a 6.9 ratio,
Lmao if that is what you are using to gauge all this then you really are deluded... in game war stat ratio is so lopsided... Mayhem have only warred what 2-3 tribes and one of them have allied to them now and work with them against turtle so will say 2 to be fair, lol... Turtle is one of the oldest tribes in the world and has been in countless wars the entire time... which is to say they declare in game which other tribes dont... but keep thinking that means anything... a perfect example is selfie look at there ratio... by your logic there the elite of the elite of this world.
If turtle members disagree with me, I do encourage you guys to prove me wrong and to prove that you guys actually deserve your rank, but not with words. Rather, prove me wrong with war caps, ODA, coordination, and activity.
Turtle: 8845 caps, 537,068,244 ODA
Cruel: 10426 caps, 413,187,735 ODA
Mayhem: 6733 caps, 258,235,349 ODA
Captcha: 7634 caps, 264,229,179 ODA
EIN: 3319 caps, 55,568,905 ODA
We have also been in the top 2-3 nobling every week for the last year so obviously were active and working and our tribal setup has allowed us to do so...
In a way, you can see this is both positive and negative criticism. You can take what I've said and argue with me, or you can try to improve yourselves and do better.
This has to be one of the most condescending comments ive seen in these forums to date... improve yourselves... geez. perhaps you should just focus on improving your own tribe rather then coming here to attempt and fail to criticize others... just saying...
I'm sure other players will comment on my statements, especially the external Turtle trolls
because we dont agree with you or your opinions and turtle is the most active tribe in the externals makes us trollz?
this world just shows how player skill has deteriorated over the years.
Ive seen you make this comment so many times if you dont like the state of the game then dont play... stop living in the past!
Any top tribe on this world would get crushed by most half decent tribes
Ive been playing this game since W4 and yes have been in tribes with more active and skillled players then exists on this world but almost none of them last to end game... the best players tend to enjoy start up then move on after a year, two tops...
Sure, the top tribes might have 5-10 good players each, but this world is pretty much going to come down to who can continue to log in for the longest amount of time.
This is over simplified however in my experience this is the case for all end game tribes and worlds.