I actaully remember what happened quite well being a new council member a few months before the disband. None of KBC council was to be recruited into TWC, in fact emerald made a deal with shipley that said TWC would gain 5 spoils of war, and all KBC council members (excluding myself, reasons below) were to hand over a % of there villages to TWC. At that point TWC would no longer attack them. There is no KBC council in TWC/RAM as of now except for me. Emerald gave up his whole acc in exchange for my %, ben and some1 else did as well, stagehand gave up his % and then later joined ram down the road, and u decided to fight and not give up your percent, which is why they attacked you until u deleted. All of KBC council knew emerald was gonna delete including you. I remeber talking about the deal in skype with emerald, you, stagehand and ben!
I have nothing against you personally and i know your a great player but i know thats how it went down cuz i was there when it happened....
No idea why we're rehashing this, but hey. OK.
Aubree, I had actually no idea that Emerald was working on a deal, and was going to disband the tribe. None. That is the whole and sincere truth. No one said anything at all to me - either from KBC or T-W-C - about giving up some villas and coming over to T-W-C. Maybe because they knew I would have rejected it anyway, as Bastiat, Hamsterca, Metaldoc, Cole, and numerous others would have. And while most of the players pushing for me to join T-W-C (without any mention of donating villas) are no more - Crasula, CShipley, the original Irock, Fightclub, (I think Treb is still there? Norin27?) - I assure you it occurred. Heck, when I came back onto Skype several months later, I was immediately offered an account in RAM.
Edit: I just noticed BobbyNaked who posted above saying "While T-W-C was trying to recruit you, they were attacking me." Reading the BobbyNaked v. T-W-C thread is highly amusing - those interested in past history of W30 should read it.
If you recall (you may or may not, I think I just talked about it on the Baron level - me, Emerald, and Stagehand in a private room) - I was consistently left out of the loop when decisions were being made. I
constantly complained about it - I kept saying "Hey, I'm a Baronness for goodness sakes, someone tell me SOMETHING!" I believe there are still players on W30 that I whined to about this very subject on Skype.
What happened was: I just signed in one day, and my tribe was gone.
You made me go back and look at my PnP postings - here's what I wrote in the "Cleaning Out the K-Loset" T-W-C v. KBC war thread (page 26) on September 14, 2009:
[spoil]Well, KBC put up a nice fight, even if some in T-W-C ( ::coughOrclordcough:: ) won't even give us credit for that.
The T-W-C members I tangled with - Noobaxes, Crasula, itherules, Norin27, Irock, and a few others - are deserving of respect, and I give it freely.
Even as Baroness, I was unaware of the pending "surrender" and disbanding - but that is only my fault, as I have been somewhat ignoring the Tribal Forum the last week or so do to RL stuff that only allowed me to log in for a couple hours a day, and I spent that time defending and building. No excuses.
However, I do wish to express my sincere thanks to everyone in KBC - this was my first world, and I really loved working with most of you. It was a heck of a ride. I hope everyone had fun. :icon_wink:
I listen to my former members who are joining other tribes - good for you guys. Whatever works for you. It's a game.
Me? I'm standing and fighting until the end. My tribe was and is KBC - I have no interest in joining another.
As I type this, I look at the 20 or so nukes heading towards my villas.
Em can post his surrender, and that of KBC - this, however, is my own declaration.
Come and get me. :icon_evil: I have cookies. :icon_wink:[/spoil]
I bolded the important part - that even back then I was saying
I didn't know about the "surrender" and disbandment. Nowhere in there do I mention anything about giving up a percentage and joining T-W-C - I say I listen to former members who are joining other tribes. I honestly had no clue. Em disbanded and deleted his account, and while he stuck around to post on PnP for awhile, he never responded to me again. Note 1: Em did this as Duke with the other tribe he started with KBC players (W32, maybe?) Note 2: even back then I was bitching about Orca. Hee. Note 3: Emerald posts right after me and does not contradict that I didn't know about the plans at all. And from what I recall, most members had no idea this was going to happen.
Here's the link:
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=152726&page=26
Second quote down memory lane, from Lazarus67, another KBC member who wrote in the same thread (page 27) on October 10, 2009:
[spoil]
My tribemates from KBC as well as some non-tribe friends came to my aid and I slowed the losses and began to gain villages. Then while I was on a three day vacation (backpacking) I left Aubree as sitter and came home to find my tribe disbanded.
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Again, the link:
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=152726&page=27
Another member, posting independently, saying that he was gone for three days and he came back and his tribe was gone. I think it was even faster than that - Em made an announcement in the forums, said thank you, left it there for like three hours, and then hit "disband." Maybe he just did a circular mail? I forget.
Maybe you, Em, Ben, and Stage discussed surrender and the terms - I certainly did not. I know at some point you, Stage, and Ben all joined T-W-C. But at the time I either wanted to play with my friends in KBC or not play at all - surrender and joining the enemy wouldn't have been an option. Maybe that's why I wasn't consulted, and why Em never replied to any of my messages after his hitting the disband button. Maybe I was just too busy using my somewhat temporarily limited TW time defending accounts and rebuilding villas to pay attention to the forums when I was signed on. Who knows.
But what I
do know is that I
didn't know about the disbandment, or surrender, or giving villas to join T-W-C. I didn't "choose" not to give up my percent - I neither knew about it or would have cared. And at the time, I'm fairly certain I could have joined T-W-C without any "demands" at all. You make it sound like I didn't want to give up some villas to join T-W-C so they continued to attack me - I think I've proved in this post that I didn't know about the disbandment, didn't want to join T-W-C, and that I wanted to continue to attack them by posting my "declaration." So even though they continued to ask me to join T-W-C they had to get me to stop launching attacks at them, first. :icon_razz: (Note: I did not actually delete my account. After a certain time - I think it was over six weeks or so? - I was tired of fighting and tired of TW without my friends, and I just stopped logging in.)
Anyway - that was a melancholy trip back into what was a fun time. Thank you for that. Remember how cool being in KBC was most of the time??
But hey - personal favor from an old tribemate? Could you try not to call me a liar, please, especially when you're wrong? I don't like it much, nor do I deserve it.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.