I used attack IDs to tag for my tribe mates. That's what I was talking about.
The luck bit was aimed at you saying now we had to rely on luck. Which is a statement I agree with. No one knows what times I'm online. So the success of hiding nobles is completely luck based. Unless you're devoted enough to figure out online times (you won't find a regular schedule for me). Which, we're back to disadvantaging the nubs that don't use the tools available.
'7 Unintentional Inventions That Were An Amazing Success'As I've already said, "not intended" is not an argument against something. 7 Unintentional Inventions That Were An Amazing Success
AttackIDs weren't a success what so ever.
Because that has a lot to do with his post. You basically did this:My super secret sorter script that's the first script listed in the "all approved scripts" thread?
'zomg He said script!'Agreed. They were a convoluted, complicated solution to offline tagging. It required a tribal effort, including a dedicated forum thread, constant updating of said thread, and a special script (useless for any other sort of tagging) to make ID-tagging even somewhat convenient. There was no publicly available documentation for a lot of the ID-tagging systems, and where it was available, it was difficult to find. Many people were completely unaware of the existence of attack IDs or ID-taggers.
To compare the unintentional advent of ID-tagging to the unintentional discovery of penicillin is asinine. Penicillin saved lives. ID-tagging did nothing of the sort. Even Post-It notes were more useful than ID-tagging was. And the Slinky was infinitely more fun, for everyone.
There is a legitimate discussion to be had about incorporating the idea of offline tagging into the game. But Attack IDs were never a viable long-term solution to that problem.
'7 Unintentional Inventions That Were An Amazing Success'
'That Were An Amazing Success'
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AttackIDs weren't a success what so ever.
It was taken away because it was not meant to be used that way. I doubt that it was even meant as a feature for players. It's not for you to say how the game should be played, nor does the removal of attackIDs influence most players playing tribalwars.Most of his post was about specific taggers. Not IDs and their applications in general. I don't feel the need to reiterate what others have said multiple times about the utility and fun factor of IDs. If it's so useless, why take it away?
Okay, I agree with you. I'm going to build a bot that farms/attacks/snipes for me automatically. It is illegal you say? Why? If others aren't willing to create a bot themselves, why shouldn't I use it?To respond to (I think) the only point I didn't: If you're not willing to research the game you're playing, you don't deserve to be playing at the level of the people that do.
I replied to a completely different statement. You ignored most of what he said.If you want to talk about ignoring the majority of a post, how about this one? I'd already (multiple times) said that lack of intent does not equate to reason for removal. But what about doubling the luck factor? Care to comment on that?
"While cleaning, I found $1000. But I didn't intend to. So I burned it." You're talking about a very specific case. One that is stupid, absurd and has nothing to do with the removal of attackIDs.You claimed my first analogy was poor (it was not)
It was already replied to by Dawolf well enough.and you claim this does not parallel (it does).
It was taken away because it was not meant to be used that way. I doubt that it was even meant as a feature for players. It's not for you to say how the game should be played, nor does the removal of attackIDs influence most players playing tribalwars.
Okay, I agree with you. I'm going to build a bot that farms/attacks/snipes for me automatically. It is illegal you say? Why? If others aren't willing to create a bot themselves, why shouldn't I use it?
I replied to a completely different statement. You ignored most of what he said.
"While cleaning, I found $1000. But I didn't intend to. So I burned it." You're talking about a very specific case. One that is stupid, absurd and has nothing to do with the removal of attackIDs.
It was already replied to by Dawolf well enough.
Not at all. I'm talking about positive unintentional outcomes. They didn't intend for IDs to be used by players. However, the game became more fun as a result of them.
That's an absolutely absurd statement. You are suggesting that only top players will win, so we should ignore the concept of game balance and a level playing field so the top 1% (who are not the majority of Inno's income afaik) can have more fun.Only the top 1% have a legitimate chance of winning a world, even without ID tagging.
You define the playing field as something very different than what it actually is. Everyone playing a TW world is on the same playing field.I'm saying that you can't level the playing field between different skill levels. So you should level the playing field between similar skill levels.
You're literally making my point, you have an advantage other players don't in ID-tagging.Also, like I said, the amount of fun is increased greater on the world where I'm in the bottom 99%, because I can somewhat compete against a larger player. They can't just mass fake me and run me out of troops to snipe/defend with by making me defend 1000 untagged trains.
Minimal research? Yes. But most of the battle is knowing what to look for. Many people didn't know attack IDs were a thing. And there were not a lot of guides available to explain.And again, if you don't do the minimal research it takes to find attack ID functions, you aren't really trying to compete with the top 1%
Wasn't intended as an attack, simply as a statement. Caring more about your own fun isn't necessarily a bad thing.But I appreciate the personal attack. Thanks for that.
Only the top 1% have a legitimate chance of winning a world
You define the playing field as something very different than what it actually is. Everyone playing a TW world is on the same playing field.
The top players are not in a different universe. The less-skilled players can still affect them. And nobody should be arbitrarily held back in doing so by a tilted playing field.
You're literally making my point, you have an advantage other players don't in ID-tagging.
Also, if someone sends me 1000 trains while I'm offline, good game to them, that's mightily impressive, and they should win if they put in that much effort.
Minimal research? Yes. But most of the battle is knowing what to look for. Many people didn't know attack IDs were a thing. And there were not a lot of guides available to explain.
Wasn't intended as an attack, simply as a statement. Caring more about your own fun isn't necessarily a bad thing.
