Dulce Bellum's Unofficial Blog

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Welcome to the first edition of Dulce Bellum's Blog.

Note: All statistics are correct at the time of writing yesterday evening.

About me


I am maintaining a nom de plume to write this blog. This is a personal preference of mine due to the fact that I do not want the esteemed readers of this blog to jump to concluding that I am supporting a particular tribe. I also do not want my tribemates to think less of me for criticising them publicly, which I will do.


Many bloggers choose to sweet talk and compliment everyone in their blogs in an effort to gain popularity with the masses. I will not do that. I hope to give you unequivocal, blunt and original comment about the world's happenings. Please do not take any criticism of your tribe to be offensive or indication of bias. I will give the same treatment to both sides.


So, without further ado...


TB! vs. Wobble according to Dulce Bellum


[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: TB!
Side 2:
Tribes: Wobble


Timeframe: Last week


Total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 321
Side 2: 398
Difference: 77


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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 2,947,325
Side 2: 3,660,873
Difference: 713,548


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The last week has shown that Wobble have edged ahead in the stats. The large majority of their lead coming within the last 48 hours from a nice OP against me2day, a former AAA player. Wobble also should be congratulating themselves to be putting enough pressure on TB! to cause what seems like internal problems. The ever so notorious ex-duke of TB!, Dr. Sandman, appears to have been very anxious to thrust two angry fingers at those in TB! he felt were not participating, as soon as TB!'s profits against wobble slowed.


The real reason for TB!'s apparent decrease in momentum has been due to a revived Wobble morale and the results of their efforts are there to show. An argument could be made, however, that me2day was a weak player, weaker than most in TB! and therefore should not be representative of the progress of the war as a whole. Me2day lost around 1.3 million points and from this gained a measly, if not suspiciously low ODD of just a shade over 8 million.


The reason for Wobble's recent revival is unclear, but most agree with the opinion that it was the recruitment of Wobble's ex-AAA players that catalysed this. Players such as Or-el/u6s5l. should be applauded for somehow managing to divert the anger towards TB!, away from the habitually overoptimistic leadership within Wobble, who once again failed to understand that gaining the loyalty of members requires more than just an invite and a shallow greeting in the internal forums. All the more mindless considering that these players left Wobble in almost exactly the same circumstance as players from Yarr did following their merge into Wobble. TB! should also be reflecting on why they did not take this opportunity to embarrass Wobble further through the use of the externals forums and other public media.


Overall, Wobble appear to so far be in the lead at this moment in writing due to the caps and the internal situation within TB!. They should not, however, fool themselves into thinking that they have nearly won this war. Wobble had their own internal problems not that long ago, which included players leaving and disputes within their forums and then some. There was a point in which many in Wobble privately didn't give the life expectancy of their tribe much longer than that of a summer moth. And they seem to be back of the way up.


Wobble's current efforts seem to be almost completely due to an almost irrational hatred of TB! rather than a genuine bond to their own tribe, as you can see from my interview with Insom/Illuminati Puppet. I say irrational because I personally don't see any dirty play that TB! has used that Wobble haven't or wouldn't use. This is unsustainable as anger tends to die away fairly quickly from experience.


With some good and cautious play by TB!'s leadership, everything is still to play for. TB! of course do have their previous successes to keep hold of. It should not be forgotten that they have taken over almost two continents worth from Wobble/Slurp!. Wobble are still yet to completely rim a TB! player, whereas TB! have removed numerous from the Wobble ranks.


An interview with Insom/Illuminati Puppet, Baron of Wobble


This interview was cut short by real life circumstances. I was hoping to continue it to find out more about Insom as a player but I did not find the time.
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Dulce Bellum: So how long have you been in Wobble?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet: I joined Wobble in November last year


Dulce Bellum: And how would you say Wobble has changed since you joined?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Well there has been quite a change in leadership, and lots of new people have been recruited. There is not too many people remain from when I joined, but in saying that the tribal atmosphere feels the same.


Dulce Bellum: How would you describe the tribe atmosphere?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: At the moment it is very positive. With the recent happenings of what has occurred down south it really had kicked the tribe up a gear. It is also very friendly and fun environment to be a part of!


Dulce Bellum: Can you state what these "recent happenings" are?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Recent happenings being the members from AAA that we bought in leaving to join TB!.


Dulce Bellum: And why do you think these members left to join TB!?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Well I believe this world is very fractional, and once one member left Wobble they all decided to leave. This sort of play dissapoints me, and really wish they would just would have joined TB! straight away. The ex-AAA people that deiced to stay are awesome people and really glad that they stayed.


Dulce Bellum: Why did that first member leave?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: I believe a dispute with Al/Sam and leadership caused the rift and the cataylst for members to leave.


Dulce Bellum: Where do you see the war going in the next month?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Not trying to seem bias, but in a months time I see Wobble to be dominating TB!. Yet Uni exams are coming up, so they may affect both tribes in the war. So that will be interesting to see how both sides handle that issue.


Dulce Bellum: Why do you think Wobble will be dominating considering how close the stats have been this week?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Just with the Ops being planned and the fire power that is now available to hit TB!. Also their is a lot of rumors circulating at the moment about unrest in TB!, and I do not believe they have the leadership to handle any problems. People will start quitting and holes in the front will open up.


Dulce Bellum: Why do you think leadership in TB! is weak? They have come a long way in the last few months.


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: TreX (Dr. Sandman), is a strong leader in some aspects but I believe the way he treats his members will be the ultimate downfall of TB!. Also his personal PnP representation is a strong indication of his character and I really feel sorry for the people that have to listen to his garbage on a daily basis.


Dulce Bellum: I understand TreX hasn't been duke for the last week or so. Nonetheless, TB! was barely recognized not long ago and now are contending winning the world. Do you not think this shows a strong tribe, or did they just get lucky?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: They are only where they are through use of dirty tactics and sweet talking people to join them from Wobble. If they fought fair then maybe they would have my respect from where they have come from.


Dulce Bellum: Which dirty tactics are these?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Well apart from constant efforts to recruit players from us, they have also been getting rim tribes to attack Wobble. This was shown through AWOYP declaring war on Wobble. The only reason they declared was because the TB! leadership had promised them invites if they did well. Of course they were never going to get invited, TB! just wanted to draw support away from the front lines by creating a new front. AWOYP died so quickly because they did not want to fight, but rather pushed off a cliff by the lovely TB!.


Dulce Bellum: Some would say that that's just using politics to a tribe's advantage. Also, if AWOYP were so impotent why did it requre such a large amount of support to allow TB! a near to 1000 cap lead?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: They weren't important, not trying to big head myself, but Rizz and I got like 114 caps in 12 days. The plan TB! had with them failed because it didnt draw any extra attention away from the other fronts.


With regards to the 1000 cap lead, TB! were just real good at targetting players and being able to make them quit. A lot of those villages were isloated though at the beggining and now the front has stablised you can see that lead is changing quickly


Dulce Bellum: So the rim tribes didn't draw support away? And is targetting players to make them quit not good strategy rather than dirty tactics?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: When sending far less weaker players to a slaughter and waste months of work is good tactics then I'm happy to admit that it's a good tactic.


Dulce Bellum: I will ask TB! the same thing about wobble, but what do you think your enemy's greatest asset is?


Insom/Illuminati Puppet.: Their coordination would have to be. They are good at finding a weak link and exploiting it.
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A brief history of TB!


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A history of Wobble was promised, however, I was unable to contact anyone with sufficient knowledge to help me with this. If you want to read this in the next issue, I encourage you to contact me. I am indebted to electricool for helping to make this biography of what is a little known tribe.


TB! was founded by a player named Lord Bosshog, entirely based in K56. The tribe was founded ~SWS~, not TB!, standing for Sleepless With Swords. The tribe was not elitist and although most players had a certain amount of knowledge surrounding the game. There were players in ~SWS~ who had never played a past world. The largest tribe in that continent was 'You', and through a well negotiated alliance, ~SWS~ profited very well under their protection.


There was a plan to create a merged tribe between You, ~SWS~ and another tribe, ADHD to form a 'supertribe', however this plan failed to materialise as You merged with ABC to for Ninjas, who later warred Yarr and lost.


Around this time, the leadership transferred into a player called Lord Sherlock30, who was perviously second in command of ~SWS~. Lord Sherlock30 also at this time changed the tribe name to TB!, 'The Betrayed'. Named as the tribe felt betrayed by their alloes You for merging with another tribe and leaving TB! behind.


TB! plodded along and started suffering from internal problems after being criticised for not getting into any wars. A merge with Rimjob brought in some much needed new players, however, activity continued to suffer within the tribe and the leadership position changed hands many times until it eventually fell to electricool.


In January, TB! shortly declared on the rank 6 tribe, Judges, being rank 5 themselves, arguably breaking an NAP. This war went better for TB! than anyone could have expected, never going down a day in the war stats. Judges was more or less completely broken by assessment of the stats within a month. At this point TB! could have also declared on Yarr, however, these two tribes had agreed to an alliance.


Yarr disbanded and merged into Wobble, DRUNKS/Slurp and some players were taken into an emerging small tribe called TM. What happened next is disputed and the reasons for it, but TM, and several large players from Wobble and DRUNKS were recruited into TB!. This enabled TB! to gain a better position over Wobble, and the rest in now common knowledge.


Electricool stepped down as duke in early April and Godliss, TreX and Justinnissen09 have been sharing duke privs since. TreX stepped down just over a week ago.
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And finally for our interview with Nadir/electricool, ex-Duke of TB!.

Please note that tthis was done a few days ago and I could not ask about the most recent events.


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Dulce Bellum: How long have you been in TB! for?


Nadir: I think I joined TB! around November, as part of a merge with my previous tribe, S+D. I left the game in early April, but I am still in contact with the current leadership and so I can speak on behalf of them if you need me to.


Dulce Bellum: How has TB! changed since you joined?


Nadir: Well, it's a lot less nooby. We have recruited some very experienced players and also our players have gained a lot of experience. So overall, it's a lot more efficient working with knowledgable players and as such is a much better place than it was in November.


Dulce Bellum: No doubt. So where do you see the war going in the next few months.


Nadir: I think it will remain close. From following the stats there's nothing much to separate the two tribes. So, there's no way of predicting where it is going to go in a month.


Dulce Bellum: I have heard that there are several internal problems now in TB!. Is this true and do you think this will affect the war?


Nadir: I think the tribe community and spirit is still there. I don't play in game, but from what I've heard these rumours are due to TreX having called out the members he didn't think were working hard enough. Not a good move in my opinion, naming a shaming rarely works. It's a small blip but TB! will get over it.


Dulce Bellum: Many in Wobble accuse TB! of 'playing dirty' by using spies and recruiting their players.


Nadir: I honestly find that quite funny. I have never actively sought a spy in Wobble, although when people forward you information, you're not going to not read it and throw it in the trash. Wobble on the other hand have been using their friends as spies. I also saw a players asking to spy for Bunny Queen and being given a pre-written contract to sign up to with strict rules. Wobble has been using spies for a very long time and it has been integrated into their game strategy. It has not for us, we don't focus on that side of warfare.


I have recruited players from Wobble. This is strategy and it's not TB! or its leadership who is playing dirty. Our focus is on winning the war and there is nothing underhand with recruiting players from the enemy. The worst that could be suggested is that the individual players who switched sides were disloyal, but there were other personal reasons for them to switch sides.


Dulce Bellum: But if your tribe is full of traitors, doesn't that the the tribe 'corrupt'?


Nadir: I would actually dispute the fact that anyone is disloyal. They had personal reasons for changing sides, which I was satisfied.


Dulce Bellum: What reasons were these?


Nadir: Personal, and as such I can't comment. It's for them to explain as I problably don't know the complete story anyway.


Ducle Bellum: What do you think Wobble's greatest asset is?


Nadir: They have some very skilled players. I have played with some of them on other worlds and they have also proved themselves here.


Duclce Bellum:You took TB! very far. How did you manage this?


Nadir: I think I'll go with the unoriginal Oscar award speech spewl here and say it wasn't me, it was thanks to the people I worked with. This is true though. TB! has had great members with a dying love of their tribe, as well as plenty other people on hand to help out.


I think TB! got lucky too. Lots of fortunate situations occurred that allowed us to get this far. The fall of Yarr and Wobble's neglect of these recruits turned out very nicely for instance. I think leading a tribe in TW is a lot about fortune and also how you take advantage of these events. If you have both you can lead a very successful tribe.


Dulce Bellum: What do you think the most difficult time as duke has been for you?


Nadir: Either when I took charge of TB!, when the tribe was 30% yellow (I never told TB! this lol) or when as soon as we took in a lot of new players from Wobble and TM there was quite a lot of unrest. Probably the latter as there was quite a strong community spirit and people resented my decision to recruit so many new players. There was a lot of talk of people leaving and quitting.


In the end, one of my closest friends, 13967, deleted because of this, which was quite upsetting for me, but eventually the tribe bonded again and we got over it.


Dulce Bellum: Thanks for taking the time to do this interview.[/spoil]

And that concludes this first entry. I hope you enjoyed reading; I certainly enjoyed writing it.

Duclce Bellum
 

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I don't feel like writing a long response, so I'll just say that no one in Wobble thinks this war is close to over. Furthermore, I think the tribe deserves the credit for working together; I did little if anything to direct them at TB!. I think Wobble was finally able to divert attention to TB!, and were angered over the traitorous actions of others and the losses they were taking.

We look forward to a good war (from what I can tell), which is far from over, and don't mind what goes on in TB! the slightest bit. Our fates are tied, in my opinion, to Wobble's growth and atmosphere which has consistently improved and continues to do so. We do not typically hedge our bets on TB!'s issues, we aren't looking for an underhanded win to my knowledge.

It's a nice blog, btw. I feel there are hints of bias here and there, but I'm bound to given I'm in Wobble and perceptions are slanted that way. TB! may feel there is a slant going the other way. So be it.

Edit: Guess I'll be adding as I go, and it'll get long anyways.

Wobble's recruitment of Yarr has almost no comparison to the AAA leaving. Yarr members left with their leaders; then left to TB! regardless (in large part, though some stuck around). Those who joined Wobble did so because their leadership said to; there was no such leadership request from Wobble for the ex-AAA players to leave to TB!. So no, not similar at all.

I don't feel in any way that the motivation Wobble has is due to hatred of TB!. Sure, people could have been spurred to action to attack those ex-AAA members, but most of the tribe is now operating as they are because they enjoy working together, have found a group of players they like and enjoy the tribe, and want to win. Now that victory seems more plausible, more people are willing to fight for it. I doubt it has anything to do with hatred, though I could make the argument that said hatred is what got the tribe I'm in on W59 to win as it did.

Yep, the more I read this the more it seems like TB! propaganda. Guessing you're either there, or overcompensating as a Wobble member. Either way, some of the comments just seem over the top.
 
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I think there's some inaccuracies in there but thanks for doing a blog!
 

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I don't feel like writing a long response, so I'll just say that no one in Wobble thinks this war is close to over. Furthermore, I think the tribe deserves the credit for working together; I did little if anything to direct them at TB!. I think Wobble was finally able to divert attention to TB!, and were angered over the traitorous actions of others and the losses they were taking.

We look forward to a good war (from what I can tell), which is far from over, and don't mind what goes on in TB! the slightest bit. Our fates are tied, in my opinion, to Wobble's growth and atmosphere which has consistently improved and continues to do so. We do not typically hedge our bets on TB!'s issues, we aren't looking for an underhanded win to my knowledge.

It's a nice blog, btw. I feel there are hints of bias here and there, but I'm bound to given I'm in Wobble and perceptions are slanted that way. TB! may feel there is a slant going the other way. So be it.

Edit: Guess I'll be adding as I go, and it'll get long anyways.

Wobble's recruitment of Yarr has almost no comparison to the AAA leaving. Yarr members left with their leaders; then left to TB! regardless (in large part, though some stuck around). Those who joined Wobble did so because their leadership said to; there was no such leadership request from Wobble for the ex-AAA players to leave to TB!. So no, not similar at all.

I don't feel in any way that the motivation Wobble has is due to hatred of TB!. Sure, people could have been spurred to action to attack those ex-AAA members, but most of the tribe is now operating as they are because they enjoy working together, have found a group of players they like and enjoy the tribe, and want to win. Now that victory seems more plausible, more people are willing to fight for it. I doubt it has anything to do with hatred, though I could make the argument that said hatred is what got the tribe I'm in on W59 to win as it did.

Yep, the more I read this the more it seems like TB! propaganda. Guessing you're either there, or overcompensating as a Wobble member. Either way, some of the comments just seem over the top.


I <3 your Short post wonder what'd be your long post ;/
 

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All in all that was a good read.

It'd be nice to see some maps thrown in for good measure :)
 

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I'd be willing to make maps, though no guarantee they'll be amazing. I can make an example if you'd like.
 

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Thanks for the blog, it's an interesting addition to the W65 forums, one of the best in a while.

While the world has a long way to run yet, and is far from over, it's clear that Wobble are firmly in the driving seat for the moment.

Inactivity will play a large part in shaping the final curtain of the world, but as things stand Wobble have a monopoly on the better players, and that will always give them the edge. You only have to look at how the ODA rankings are dominated by Wobble to see the truth of that.

With the AAA conflict over, Wobble's victorious players have been slowly redeploying to the eastern front, and these movements are starting to bear fruit, so Wobble has gathered momentum. My prediction is that this will only increase in the near future - and when Omega are finished with, another tranche of players will be further freed to adventure in the east - and the K53 players are a deadly bunch.

Up until recently TB has had the luxury of a relatively small frontline to batter Wobble from. And their best accounts (generally the ex-Yarr defectors) have been doing well for them, propped up with support and nukes from the relatively poor backline players. This has worked well for them in K35/45. With the frontline now twice as long, they no longer have this luxury. The players in the south aren't nearly as skilled, and it shows (me2day and n4zghoul come to mind here). This disparity in skill will only serve to increase internal tension between the decently performing K45 brigade, and the relatively poor other sections of the frontline.

My view has always been that whoever has Apathy will win the world. Thankfully, I think Wobble leadership have pretty much run out of opportunities to mess things up - with two tribes there simply isn't much scope for subterfuge and massive errors in judgement anymore. Though I'm sure they'll try their best :p
 

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Guys, get your merge cannons ready, we're taking TB! :icon_biggrin:!
 

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Enjoyable read, thanks for making the effort.

I agree with the others, some maps would be a great addition.

Hope to see more in the future.
 

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Thanks for the positive feedback. If you felt I was being too harsh on wobble it was probably because I purposely omitted many points that they make on other threads. Wobble PnP appears to be rather overrepresented in comparison to TB!. I felt that it was more interesting to read some original comment rather than something you've already read twenty times.

I do draw comparison to Yarr and ex-AAA joining TB. Both merges into wobble were done with leadership approval and in both cases, members then left afterwards of their own accord, if that's what you are disputing u6?

The animosity towards TB driving wobble efforts is my personal take from talking to wobble members. You can see an example in the interview. I could be generalising too quickly though.

The next issue may be two to three weeks away. People are welcome to add some of their own writing or make maps and other pretty things. It's been a while since I saw a cartoon. That would be cool. My time and skills ate limited though so please contact me if you can help out and maybe we can get the nextissue out more quickly!
 

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If you've understood that about the similarity between Yarr and TB!, why would wobble be any happier because it had happened in the past? That is making no sense. The criticism that Wobble mindlessly recruited only holds fruit if you dont consider why each group left. Ex-AAA members say they left due to a friend being asked to leave, Yarr players simply said they would be happier in TB!.

I'd hope you don't over generalize so quickly again. Animosity perhaps exists, but is not necessarily the root of why they fight. Even the animosity could be the offshoot of teamwork and team mentality, so that factor is left out.

Have you read the forums for more than a week? When TB! was in the lead, PnP representation was equal at the very least. They probably touted their own horns more than Wobble posted entirely.

I'll see if I can find the time to make a map.
 
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I blame Wobble's lack of foresight to both merges going wrong. In both cases they discontented their new members before they had even gained their loyalty and expected them to stay. I also don't personally think that I've generalised too quickly, from the numerous people I talk to in Wobble that is my conclusion. Your own circular mails reflect how much you know and try to use the animosity to encourage members, constantly trying to portray TB! as arrogant. I believe you, personally, even admitted to joining wobble to seek revenge against a player in TB!. Point being although this might not be the case for everyone, I believe it is the case for the majority.
 

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Well, I can't say how much, or little, members dislike TB! but I can say that the "new found activity" isn't new. When Sumner brought up the AAA merge I was all for it. Why you may ask? Not because I wanted another merge (I've been against them). It's a simple thing really -- for the tribe to focus on TB!. There was a northern team hitting k34ish area and a handful of members in k45 fighting (so 5-10 members) going at TB. Majority of the active players that were left were going after AAA. With the merge, it is obvious that the rest would have to jump and start hitting TB. Even if the merge fell through the tribe would still be effectively be hitting 1 target. I don't blame it on animosity in the least, I blame it on players doing what they're suppose to be doing... Fighting their enemy. There just happens to be 1 now.
 

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I blame Wobble's lack of foresight to both merges going wrong. In both cases they discontented their new members before they had even gained their loyalty and expected them to stay. I also don't personally think that I've generalised too quickly, from the numerous people I talk to in Wobble that is my conclusion. Your own circular mails reflect how much you know and try to use the animosity to encourage members, constantly trying to portray TB! as arrogant. I believe you, personally, even admitted to joining wobble to seek revenge against a player in TB!. Point being although this might not be the case for everyone, I believe it is the case for the majority.

if this really is the case, :icon_rolleyes:

who has been arrogant from TB, save for Dr. Sandman?

i remember in the wobble TB forum about a month ago i had about 5 or 6 wobble players suddenly spouting random stuff to me - funny thing is i had never spoken to most of them before :icon_confused:......the above confirms why this was now. sending their boys out to war angry!
 

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I blame Wobble's lack of foresight to both merges going wrong. In both cases they discontented their new members before they had even gained their loyalty and expected them to stay. I also don't personally think that I've generalised too quickly, from the numerous people I talk to in Wobble that is my conclusion. Your own circular mails reflect how much you know and try to use the animosity to encourage members, constantly trying to portray TB! as arrogant. I believe you, personally, even admitted to joining wobble to seek revenge against a player in TB!. Point being although this might not be the case for everyone, I believe it is the case for the majority.

1) I don't see how lack of foresight came into play. Goal was achieved, and sure we'd have liked it to work out otherwise I'm sure, but the leadership go the focus on TB! just as they wanted. Worked out in the end. And what did the members do to discontent ex-Yarr players, again?
2) At the very beginning, sure I included a few bits of arrogance as extra motivation. But 90% of them also include "If you want to win, this is how to do it". They don't focus on the arrogance, they focus on the goal of winning. I never joined Wobble just to get revenge, either. I don't particularly like assumptions, as I'm sure you wouldn't. I doubt you talk to many in Wobble, because the many I speak to all share one goal; win the world. Not "beat TB!". In fact, while some of the other leaders phrase that, more often it's an issue of "Do you want to win or not?", to which Wobble's answer is overwhelmingly yes. So no, I don't believe it's the majority, I think you've not spoken with enough members in enough depth to actually be able to draw that conclusion.

if this really is the case, :icon_rolleyes:

who has been arrogant from TB, save for Dr. Sandman?

i remember in the wobble TB forum about a month ago i had about 5 or 6 wobble players suddenly spouting random stuff to me - funny thing is i had never spoken to most of them before :icon_confused:......the above confirms why this was now. sending their boys out to war angry!

First of all, don't know much about the Wobble-TB! forum, but that's nice. But TB! being arrogant does not mean Wobble isn't, or vice-versa.

Second of all, did you not read the message ComboloiD sent, saying how nothing would change? Did you miss all the forum chatter about how TB! would win not long ago? I'll dredge it up, but as I said...the arrogance was never a big issue. In fact, I think I only used one other quote (besides the ComboloiD quote and the TreX quote) in the mails, so...yeah, not seeing it.
 

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There is this funny thing happening where Wobble constantly merges but TB! doesn't.
I agreed to the merge of Yarr, because I was there warring them for a LONG time. I never was afraid of them, but I always thought they had the best coordination I seen in a long time. TB! Don't have half of that. The MERGE between TB! and the northern tribe and half of ex-Yarr members happened probably with prior discutions. I won't keep members here that tribe hop, to me it was a favour. The members that stayed weren't afraid to fight eventho that ment to get killed. There was no support on that front, because prior to that, we organized very well our support on the AAA front.
But hey it happened, we sail ahead. We tried to resist on the TB! front as much as we could, with little support. AAA front took a beating and finally collapsed. If you can remember, a big bunch of AAA had left them to NAP us and fight AAA. My members wanted to keep fighting so me, A respectfull duke, Told them to go back while there was time. Could of told them to wait some more or some bullshit but hey. I never was afraid of good old wars.
When AAA merged , I wasn't here. I came back when there were tensions happening. Some left. Most regret it. They regret picking TB! side when they MERGED with them.

Is Wobble a bad tribe that takes bad decisions? Well.. Im sorry, maybe I should have went down to TB! and AAA leaders type of ... duking. A mod has told me Duke of AAA (al.) been on atleast 12 diferent accounts. (I will check to see if it is fine to show a proof of that on the forum) , 2 in Wobble. Is that how I SHOULD lead a tribe?
On that matter Nadir:
I honestly find that quite funny. I have never actively sought a spy in Wobble, although when people forward you information, you're not going to not read it and throw it in the trash. Wobble on the other hand have been using their friends as spies. I also saw a players asking to spy for Bunny Queen and being given a pre-written contract to sign up to with strict rules. Wobble has been using spies for a very long time and it has been integrated into their game strategy. It has not for us, we don't focus on that side of warfare.
^Is totally bullshit. I will wait for your proof.

TB! also merged Yarr, TM, AAA.
[06.05.2013 16:22:16] TreX: I didnt like how Nadir worked
[06.05.2013 16:22:37] Ana - Bunny Queen: yeah i saw he always posed as the innocent understanding one :D
[06.05.2013 16:22:47] Ana - Bunny Queen: but he got al to do all those things
[06.05.2013 16:24:48] TreX: I was basicly his pawn even after he left
[06.05.2013 16:25:16] TreX: he would have Al do all kinds of stuff then Al would tell me what to do.
[06.05.2013 16:25:22] TreX: Meanwhile I was organizing the ops
[06.05.2013 16:25:25] Ana - Bunny Queen: lol
[06.05.2013 16:25:28] TreX: and managing the whole war
[06.05.2013 16:25:50] TreX: dealing with the unhappy members, getting support to players
[06.05.2013 16:25:58] TreX: while Al was telling me who to recruit
[06.05.2013 16:26:02] TreX: from AAA
[06.05.2013 16:26:20] TreX: when I didnt want to recruit anyone cause clearly they are trash
[06.05.2013 16:26:35] TreX: nazghoul got raped
[06.05.2013 16:26:39] TreX: me2day got raped

TB! recruited to get to have some kind of power against us. TB! were merely a rim tribe that had only been through 1 RIM war.
What made them so cocky to believe they could smash a tribe that had gone through so many wars and always got in the winning side... beats me.

I only give this to them. They merged and recruited and had their momentum. Now its gone, so is their well played piece of act of them being a winning tribe. Now that people see that... well. You can tell what is happening. I am not the best duke, I make mistakes. But I stick by my members and my members will. I never get down to underhanded tactics and I gained my respect as a leader that can pull under pressure. I unite my members, the ones that will stick through with all of it. That is why we always got over all the obstacles we had and that is why we will win this world.

Not a refugee tribe.

Have fun of whats left. Would be sad to go through a half assed fight. Ana.
 

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... A mod has told me Duke of AAA (al.) been on atleast 12 diferent accounts. (I will check to see if it is fine to show a proof of that on the forum) , 2 in Wobble ...


al. was a nub ... i can even say retard but as cant prove the last medically ... am not bolding it yet.
 
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