Gnomes Go Boom?

[DeletedUser]

hmmm why I keep seeing GE jumping around tribes?

Come on guys lets look at this to another angle, wouldn't you agree that the best way to win a war is by crushing your enemy without a fight?
And that's what the recruiting techniques during the wars are all about, innit?

So lets just face what w39 has always been,sadly, but that's the ugly truth...

GE Why don't you try to find the main leader of SIKE instead of keep on throwing coins on xander and OneAlpha?

 

[DeletedUser]

true, but u would expect something more from a #1 tribe.
especially after all the bragging. : )

and it still can be interpreted as if they were unable to win with FIGHTING.
fighting against a tribe half theire size.

 

[DeletedUser]

hmmm why I keep seeing GE jumping around tribes?

Come on guys lets look at this to another angle, wouldn't you agree that the best way to win a war is by crushing your enemy without a fight?
And that's what the recruiting techniques during the wars are all about, innit?

So lets just face what w39 has always been,sadly, but that's the ugly truth...

GE Why don't you try to find the main leader of SIKE instead of keep on throwing coins on xander and OneAlpha?

no it isnt, wars are about fighting, recruiting is for in between wars and after them, w39 has been very much fighting world, even tho there is more diplomacy in it than in some other worlds. so yes, your post is incorrect,im sorry to say.

 

[gompers]

hmmm why I keep seeing GE jumping around tribes?

Come on guys lets look at this to another angle, wouldn't you agree that the best way to win a war is by crushing your enemy without a fight?
And that's what the recruiting techniques during the wars are all about, innit?

So lets just face what w39 has always been,sadly, but that's the ugly truth...

GE Why don't you try to find the main leader of SIKE instead of keep on throwing coins on xander and OneAlpha?

I don't know about everyone else sila but I'm disapointed because Sike claimed to declare on LosT due to our "mass recruitment" and then proceeded to mass recruit half our members.

 

[Raizinz]

Aint our fault that your members are unloyal...:icon_rolleyes: or are too scared of us.

 

[2004 Artemis]

Aint our fault that your members are unloyal...:icon_rolleyes: or are too scared of us.

Just because they're unloyal doesn't mean you have to take them in? :icon_rolleyes: I don't see NOB recruiting...

 

[DeletedUser]

minaise I don't quite know how to reply to your comments but let me try to bend it this way.

you said

it still can be interpreted as if they were unable to win with FIGHTING.

why? arent you happy with their war stats? cuz if lost had put some good counter attack on SIKE may be this would have been a good war. Please do keep in mind that one way war is stressing and time consuming and for that reason may be recruiting the best players of Lost would be the quicker way to move forward.

Please remember this is not a WAR GAME like lots of people put it nowadays, this is A STRATEGIC GAME meaning the person or tribe that managed to come with a better solutions for most of their issues along the way will end up be the last to laugh.

So FIGHTING doesn't always mean physical aggression but also mental challenge.

against a tribe half theire size.

I don't quite you mean by the size thing cuz when SIKE 1st started warring lost, lots was the bigger tribe and now due to the war effects they become what you see.

Djeremajah I will say the same thing to you as I have just said to minaise above: war is not often won by force but intellectual approach of each individual situation and also the need of understanding your enemy which makes war SO unpredictable cuz everyone knows that force or aggression alone is like a monster without brain and you can see that through our human war history that shows clearly that bigger force or army is not always the winner, as you saw with Napoleon Bonaparte or Hitler attack on Russia. Because war involves well develop strategics and a need of quick flexibility or adaptation of any due situation.

gompers I don't quite believe everyone is unhappy with SIKE due to their recruiting policy but due to their lack of much needed aggression expected from world #1 tribe against #2 as in others war this use to be the last thing everyone would want to see happen for diverse reasons...
but Lost playing defensive didn't help a lot on the war so that forced SIKE in seeking a different approach to make this a quick war as it's almost a 1 side war, cuz lost have not done any expected counter attacks that I would have expected from world #2.
so please correct me if I am wrong SIKE is not the only tribe to blame in all this but whole w39 tribes but sitting back and wait for SIKE to be weaken by Lost defence... remember spears and swords are great as defender and not that good as attacker.

W39 can be a good world again but it needs is 1st war world so that everyone can be more interested on it again, cuz that's a must done by now especially for a world that old.

 

[DeletedUser]

did u just skip the part where i agreed with u and moved to what u didn't like?

i cant see sike doing significantly better that lost after launch, so one way war.. NO.
tho, theres plenty of other reasons why it might be time consuming. : )

just a quick reminder, were talking about NOW, not THEN.
i might be oldschool, but respect counts.

 

[gompers]

Aint our fault that your members are unloyal...:icon_rolleyes: or are too scared of us.

Even if that is true, it's still 100% irrelevant.

And they will be just as disloyal to you as they were to us

 

[DeletedUser]

Oh cut the "War is won by intellect" crap. It's not. War is won by kids getting shot and dying.

SIKE's made their point with this war, I say leave them to it. Going into this, SIKE kept claiming that their merges with TDR and T-T/CIALIS, as well as recruitment of a large number of 82nd wasn't mass recruiting, and that SIKE players had the talent and skill to beat another tribe in a war. Now, looking BACK at that, it amuses me to no end. SIKE fought a war to prove they weren't recruit-whores, and they fought the war by being recruit-whores.

Again, SIKE has made their point, but I doubt it was the point they were looking to make.

 

[DeletedUser]

minaise I don't quite know how to reply to your comments but let me try to bend it this way.

you said
why? arent you happy with their war stats? cuz if lost had put some good counter attack on SIKE may be this would have been a good war. Please do keep in mind that one way war is stressing and time consuming and for that reason may be recruiting the best players of Lost would be the quicker way to move forward.

Please remember this is not a WAR GAME like lots of people put it nowadays, this is A STRATEGIC GAME meaning the person or tribe that managed to come with a better solutions for most of their issues along the way will end up be the last to laugh.

So FIGHTING doesn't always mean physical aggression but also mental challenge.



I don't quite you mean by the size thing cuz when SIKE 1st started warring lost, lots was the bigger tribe and now due to the war effects they become what you see.

Djeremajah I will say the same thing to you as I have just said to minaise above: war is not often won by force but intellectual approach of each individual situation and also the need of understanding your enemy which makes war SO unpredictable cuz everyone knows that force or aggression alone is like a monster without brain and you can see that through our human war history that shows clearly that bigger force or army is not always the winner, as you saw with Napoleon Bonaparte or Hitler attack on Russia. Because war involves well develop strategics and a need of quick flexibility or adaptation of any due situation.

gompers I don't quite believe everyone is unhappy with SIKE due to their recruiting policy but due to their lack of much needed aggression expected from world #1 tribe against #2 as in others war this use to be the last thing everyone would want to see happen for diverse reasons...
but Lost playing defensive didn't help a lot on the war so that forced SIKE in seeking a different approach to make this a quick war as it's almost a 1 side war, cuz lost have not done any expected counter attacks that I would have expected from world #2.
so please correct me if I am wrong SIKE is not the only tribe to blame in all this but whole w39 tribes but sitting back and wait for SIKE to be weaken by Lost defence... remember spears and swords are great as defender and not that good as attacker.

W39 can be a good world again but it needs is 1st war world so that everyone can be more interested on it again, cuz that's a must done by now especially for a world that old.

Oh Dear , you just lost a bucket of respect i had for you John, for months all we have been hearing about is how great SIKE are , how they have so many elite players etc how they can nuke and noble any tribe they like and then we find out that really , SIKE never intended to fight but to recruit the world and win it through attrition, what a shame, i truly feel embarrassed for all the SIKE members that joined a tribe they thought was the best FIGHTING tribe bar none only to now find out that they have joined a tribe that does not want to fight but to love the world to death to win it.

I can see it now in future worlds and forums.

Ex SIKE player " yes i was in SIKE in w39"

Players in other worlds " LOL, do you want us to all kiss and love you here too"

What a sad day!

What a shambles and embarrassment SIKE have now made of W39

 

[DeletedUser]

Side 1:
Tribes: Sike Sike!
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: LosT
Players:

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,619
Side 2: 1,236
Difference: 383

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 291
Side 2: 188
Difference: 103

Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 12,736,416
Side 2: 8,109,896
Difference: 4,626,520

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 2,751,540
Side 2: 1,689,543
Difference: 1,061,997

Those swords must be sharp. :icon_wink:

 

[DeletedUser]

too bad Sike invited all of them, and got 9 more members today. Now i hope that its the core and good players of Lost, so that we can have a good war, seems that group keeps merging. (Cobra to 82nd to Lost, and now to Sike, Lost was a bunch of old tribes put together, and now so is Sike)

 

[DeletedUser]

Blah! Too many super merge tribes. 82nd tried that and it failed. Lost tried it and it is failing. Same with PoP. If history is any indicator SIKE is on the road to destruction. They have some good heads among them so hopefully that will help.

 

[Pjleathal]

Sike's tactics are being frowned upon unfairly in my eyes... The point of this game is not to war. The point of this game is domination - War is a tool Along with recruting, diplomacy, etc. However a tribe can get to that point is up to them and the situations presented to them. Right now Sike has almost the same amount of points as -V- and Rx4u combined. If the glue sticks and the tribe stays together then arguing about effective methods of war are pointless. Recruitment is a tool for domination not war - War is a tool for domination - Diplomacy is a tool for domination(“Speak softly and carry a big stick). Dont get lost in the thought that Power is won by war any more important than Power won through the other methods -

Well done thus far Sike

 

[Raizinz]

Even if that is true, it's still 100% irrelevant.

And they will be just as disloyal to you as they were to us

or are too scared of us.

Most just dont want the 4k+ Fakes that are basically sent to all players in this war... Wonder what will happen if we decide to just send fakes and nothing else, just to see if the player actually quits like the rest of them. (Hell Force666, Kekoan, balontavia ect.)

 

[DeletedUser]

Most just dont want the 4k+ Fakes that are basically sent to all players in this war... Wonder what will happen if we decide to just send fakes and nothing else, just to see if the player actually quits like the rest of them. (Hell Force666, Kekoan, balontavia ect.)

You're recruiting people for being afraid of fakes? Call me a proper NOB, but those are the kinds of people I wouldn't be recruiting. :icon_rolleyes:

 

[Raizinz]

No, the ppl that we did fake mostly did go inactive. Like the examples that I have stated above. It is Sike's Leadership that has decided to do so, not mine. But all of their decisions will be repected (even though I dont like them).

 

[DeletedUser]

Reading over the last two pages and not caring enough to check back on who said that Lost is playing it defensively. heres the last couple days. obviously before this sike was winning and will start winning again now that they mass recruiting our scared/bad players. but for a few days we have remained even.

Side 1:
Tribes: Sike
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: LosT
Players:

Timeframe: 11/02/2010 00:00:00 to 17/02/2010 00:00:00
Total conquers:
Side 1: 247
Side 2: 206
Difference: 41
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 50
Side 2: 53
Difference: 3
Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 2,049,981
Side 2: 1,335,076
Difference: 714,905
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 458,962
Side 2: 473,954
Difference: 14,992

Feel free to flame me because i dont plan on wasting my time flaming back about the stupid drama currently happening.

 

[DeletedUser]

hmmm why I keep seeing GE jumping around tribes?
GE Why don't you try to find the main leader of SIKE instead of keep on throwing coins on xander and OneAlpha?

I just find it too hard to quit this world :icon_redface:

And why do I need to find a main leader of SIKE? When I was there, those two were pretty much calling the shots, and as I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, and they were the two involved in recruiting LosT refugees the first time round (without even letting TheWall4588 know who they were going to invite), unless another SIKE member stands up and takes credit for the second wave of mass-recruiting the enemy, I am just going to keep believing it is them