DeletedUser107251
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I do not get on the externals much, but when I do it's usually important.
As many of you know, we had been allies with BASE, I had in all ernest that we would merge at one point and I had even stated it in the forums.
I can not tell you how many times they had played dirty and bent the rules in their favor and why I was foolish for trusting this tribe.
I think Mark's own words can sum it up
It is funny when tribes that we are fighting at the time are the one's that tell me how our allies are stacking our noble claims, spiking our farms, and giving away our ops.
Where to begin? I am s.d. and our friend mark is brombeere
This is one conversation that has to do with DA
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[7/19/2012 4:36:55 PM] s d: we can join if you want
[7/19/2012 4:37:00 PM] s d: meant to send that to michael
[7/19/2012 4:37:11 PM] s d: so he knows which near him are being taken
[7/19/2012 4:37:35 PM] Mark: There isn't much point joining, the war is practically over already
[7/19/2012 4:37:45 PM] Mark: Players are already leaving ~D A~
[7/19/2012 4:37:53 PM] s d: yeah I have no respect for that kind of abandonment
[7/19/2012 4:37:57 PM] Mark: We have already gotten 9 villages off them
[7/19/2012 4:38:06 PM] s d: thats so pathetic for them ;/
[7/19/2012 4:38:12 PM] Mark: And we only declared this morning
[7/19/2012 4:40:19 PM] s d: ah well
[7/19/2012 4:40:25 PM] s d: guess we arent part of the fun
[7/19/2012 4:40:32 PM] Mark: (chuckle)
[7/19/2012 4:40:39 PM] s d: I feel like the fat kid being picked last for dodgeball right now
[7/19/2012 4:40:44 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 4:41:01 PM] Mark: You remember that anti-Base alliance talks that were going on ages ago?
[7/19/2012 4:41:05 PM] s d: yup
[7/19/2012 4:41:15 PM] Mark: Duke of ~D A~ is tryng to get them all together again
[7/19/2012 4:41:16 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 4:41:31 PM] s d: too little too late
[7/19/2012 4:41:58 PM | Edited 4:41:59 PM] Mark: (nod)
[7/19/2012 4:42:32 PM] s d: would bother you with katalysis issue but you're busy fighting a war so I'll try to sort it with him
[7/19/2012 4:44:00 PM] Mark: (chuckle)
[7/19/2012 4:45:12 PM] s d: just tell him b/c manishj took a farm form him he can take davy jones but not the takht villa
[7/19/2012 4:45:20 PM] s d: he'll know what that means
[7/19/2012 4:45:49 PM] s d: anyway, back to real life and work
[7/19/2012 4:46:13 PM] s d: look forward to seeing you own that K in a day or two (yn)
[7/19/2012 4:46:26 PM] Mark: (chuckle)
[7/19/2012 4:46:36 PM] Mark: already took #1 off ~D A~ since some members left them
[7/19/2012 4:47:00 PM] s d: figured, thats what happens when you go up against a crap tribe
[7/19/2012 4:47:13 PM] s d: (rofl)
[7/19/2012 4:47:14 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/19/2012 4:47:17 PM] s d: OFFEND is gonna be tougher
[7/19/2012 4:47:19 PM] s d:
[7/19/2012 4:47:28 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/19/2012 4:47:31 PM] s d: luckily we have a lot of them that wanna join in that K
[7/19/2012 4:47:38 PM] s d: that feed info
[7/19/2012 4:47:58 PM] s d: could be the ultimate acid test, let them join us and see how they do against the rest of them
[7/19/2012 4:48:35 PM] s d: can you guys support some of us on the border ?
[7/19/2012 4:49:10 PM] Mark: Not right now, we have our own support a little busy with ~D A~
[7/19/2012 4:49:17 PM] s d: evne k43 members?
[7/19/2012 4:49:19 PM] Mark: But I'd say in about a week tops
[7/19/2012 4:49:23 PM] s d: ah okay
[7/19/2012 4:49:25 PM] Mark: we can spare
[7/19/2012 4:49:34 PM] s d: might be sooner than that for us
[7/19/2012 4:49:39 PM] s d: plans moving fast
[7/19/2012 4:49:57 PM] s d: got rid of the person I think was clyde's spy, got rid of most shared forums with PRE
[7/19/2012 4:50:04 PM] s d: all invites being filtered through PRE now
[7/19/2012 4:50:27 PM] s d: thinking of a separate shared forum with you guys
[7/19/2012 4:50:28 PM] s d: where we can actually discuss plans
[7/19/2012 4:50:36 PM] Mark: Ah ok
[7/19/2012 4:50:40 PM] s d: will let you know
[7/19/2012 4:50:43 PM] Mark: Sure
[7/19/2012 4:50:58 PM] s d: a hidden one where we can discuss strategy and battle plans only available to trustable members[/spoil]
After which, I had a conversation with Seafood Taco, duke of OFFEND
[spoil][7/25/2012 8:52:55 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): and i will pull him up commenting on PRE
[7/25/2012 8:54:09 AM | Edited 8:54:29 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): [7/21/2012 12:21:18 AM] Mark: Was it you who have been hitting HBGR?
[7/21/2012 12:21:19 AM] Mark: They jumped 300k ODD yesterday
[7/21/2012 12:21:20 AM] Mark: :O
[7/21/2012 12:22:01 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): i thought you knew everything that happened with HBGR
[7/21/2012 12:22:08 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): slipping in your old age?
[7/21/2012 12:22:25 AM] Mark: Nope, just haven't bothered looking in their forums in a while
[7/21/2012 12:23:04 AM] Mark: Plus I get a lot of my information from PRE and they used to share all forums, but LOW thinks you have a spy in PRE so has been limiting information in there... :|[/spoil]
Funny how he had us believing that clyde had spies in our tribe and that he wanted to fight us, and with them we had started making plans against OFFEND, thankfully, I talked to clyde first.
[spoil][7/25/2012 8:56:09 AM] s d: [Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:12 PM] Mark:
<<< About the shared planner with PRE, I don't know who, but I know Offend have a spy in there, and I think a few others might have. I would prefer to not share all my members noble claims with them (think)[/spoil]
DA war - I was still drinking the kool aid here, should have seen the early warning signs.
[spoil]
[7/19/2012 5:09:01 PM] s d: [5:04:00 PM] Raawx: We're looking to have HBGR declare war on Base.
[5:04:13 PM] Raawx: You'll be able to kick them out of your continent
[5:04:15 PM] s d: looking in the wrong place bud, we are allied
[5:04:21 PM] Raawx: Im aware.
[5:04:30 PM] Raawx: But what will come of that alliance?
[5:04:42 PM] s d: no clue but its working for us now
[5:05:53 PM] Raawx: For now.
[5:06:01 PM] Raawx: You should be thinking of the future.
[5:06:09 PM] Raawx: Base is allying you to control you.
[5:06:17 PM] Raawx: Mark would be mortified if you declared.
[5:06:25 PM] Raawx: And now is the perfect time to so.
[7/19/2012 5:09:23 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 5:09:26 PM] Mark: omg
[7/19/2012 5:09:27 PM] s d: [5:06:52 PM] s d: you should have done it earlier
[5:06:58 PM] s d: now its too late and its your own faults
[5:07:14 PM] Raawx: Believe me.
[5:07:20 PM] Raawx: I tried to merge with them.
[5:07:26 PM] Raawx: They wouldnt have it.
[5:07:37 PM] Raawx: They WILL backstab you if they become powerful enough.
[5:07:44 PM] Raawx: I thought they wouldnt do this to me.
[5:07:47 PM] Raawx: I was very wrong
[7/19/2012 5:09:41 PM] Mark: I didn't backstab anyone
[7/19/2012 5:09:47 PM] s d: I know.
[7/19/2012 5:09:49 PM] Mark: we have an expiration date on our NAP
[7/19/2012 5:09:58 PM] Mark: And we didn't send a thing till after
[7/19/2012 5:10:02 PM] s d: I know mark you dont have to explain things I know what went on
[7/19/2012 5:10:06 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 5:10:08 PM] s d: I just thought you might like some light reading
[7/19/2012 5:12:57 PM] s d: [5:10:06 PM] Raawx: Believe me.
[5:10:16 PM] Raawx: Dont think in the present
[5:10:19 PM] Raawx: Think in the future.
[5:10:41 PM] s d: we aren't going to fight them man I'm sorry we are allied with them and I will remain honest to my alliances
[5:10:48 PM] s d: you should find someone else to do so
[5:11:17 PM] s d: when I make an alliance two things change that, one of us disbanding or the end of the world
[5:11:25 PM] Raawx: Are you just afraid?
[5:11:30 PM] Raawx: Of Base?
[5:11:32 PM] s d: not afraid, just honest
[5:11:41 PM] Raawx: Why do you think they tried so ahrd to get this alliance with you?
[5:11:52 PM] s d: if I lose I'll lose in a stand up fight, not by backstabbing someone
[5:11:52 PM] Raawx: To protect their members.
[5:12:00 PM] Raawx: You wont be.
[5:12:06 PM] Raawx: You'll be fighting for a just cause.
[5:12:07 PM] s d: doesn't matter why they did it
[5:12:14 PM] s d: we agreed to it
[5:12:17 PM] s d: and we've worked together
[5:12:18 PM] Raawx: Base has backstabbed many other tribes before.
[5:12:26 PM] Raawx: When does the alliance end?
[5:12:32 PM] Raawx: Or does it?
[5:12:34 PM] s d: I rather be rimmed than go against my word
[7/19/2012 5:13:48 PM] Mark: [Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:12 PM] s d:
<<< [5:12:18 PM] Raawx: Base has backstabbed many other tribes before.Ask him for examples :|
[7/19/2012 5:15:28 PM] s d: I gave you my word I would be your ally, that's not going to change until we disband, get crushed, or you actually backstab us... since I don't think you are one to break your word either option 3 is the end of the world
[7/19/2012 5:15:51 PM] s d: or disbanding / getting crushed... so I think I am going to block this guy
[7/19/2012 5:15:58 PM] s d: he's actually starting to get annoying
[7/19/2012 5:16:26 PM] s d: this quote is my favorite
[7/19/2012 5:16:28 PM] s d: [Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:13 PM] Raawx:
<<< Why not do it when your tribe is in power?
No.
You will.
You cant hug forever.
I've learnt that the hard way.
I'm doing this because I care for you guys.
And tbh, war is actually really fun.
[7/19/2012 5:17:16 PM] Mark: He's annoying
[7/19/2012 5:17:18 PM] Mark: (nod)
[7/19/2012 5:17:44 PM] s d: trying anything to save his own ass
[7/19/2012 5:18:22 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/19/2012 5:21:01 PM] s d: like I said you guys don't have to worry I know you aren't one to backstab someone
[/spoil]
Looks like I was wrong
[spoil]
[7/5/2012 6:01:12 PM] Raawx: Sounds good.
[7/5/2012 6:01:20 PM] Raawx: Let me pull up the previous terms
[7/5/2012 6:01:51 PM] Mark: Sure
[7/5/2012 6:02:53 PM] Raawx: Bah I cant find it. >.<
[7/5/2012 6:02:56 PM] Raawx: Ill keep looking.
[7/5/2012 6:04:00 PM] Raawx: Here:
[7/5/2012 6:04:01 PM] Raawx: - The NAP will expire automatically, if an extension is not agreed, on 5th July (15 days).
- If the NAP is not extended or ends for another reason, there is a 5 day no-attack period.
- The point of contact in Base is 10307645. The point of contact in ~D A~ is Howey.
[7/5/2012 6:04:14 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/5/2012 6:04:24 PM] Mark: I will now be the point of contact (think)
[7/5/2012 6:04:30 PM] Raawx: Yeah I assumed that much.
[7/5/2012 6:04:39 PM] Raawx: Hmm.
[7/5/2012 6:04:52 PM] Raawx: How does the 19th sound?
[7/5/2012 6:05:18 PM] Mark: That seems fine to me
[/spoil]
they obviously stabbed them in the back as well, grace period? lol
At this point I would like to say that, even though we had no previous relations with the tribe OFFEND, their duke has always been forthright and honest in his dealings.
[spoil]
<<< HBGR - LordOfWinter today at 07:11
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already tension with offend and spies in their tribe. Noble as many as you can.
[7/20/2012 2:14:23 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): guess something like that would be a bit of a stab in the back
[7/20/2012 2:14:42 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): on marks behalf
[7/20/2012 2:14:53 AM] s d: noble as many as you can?
[7/20/2012 2:14:55 AM] s d: hmm
[7/20/2012 2:15:02 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): him passing me that info
[7/20/2012 2:16:17 AM] s d: I'd love to see the whole conversation
[7/20/2012 2:16:36 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): [Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:32 PM] Mark:
<<< [Monday, July 09, 2012 9:53 AM] s d:
<<< planning an op on ebenezerz
if anyone of your guys want in
and take a large villa
I dont mind splitting him up and giving everyone that participates a fair share
[7/20/2012 2:16:56 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): that one has gotta be more of a stab in the back
[7/20/2012 2:17:03 AM] s d: ouch
[7/20/2012 2:17:18 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): i know you got the info about SG from mark
[7/20/2012 2:17:29 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): he stabbed me in the back with that one
[7/20/2012 2:17:48 AM] s d: :/
[7/20/2012 2:17:55 AM] s d: I'm actually pretty well connected
[7/20/2012 2:18:37 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): me too
[7/20/2012 2:18:54 AM] s d: and you should think twice on who does externals
[/spoil]
It is funny that I find out form my enemies at the time that Mark had been telling them about our ops. 2 1/2 nukes lost there.
on that note
[spoil]
crystalball on 25.07. at 02:59
sent
LordOfWinter on 25.07. at 02:51
hmmm confirmation of that would easily make me swayed to turn you into allies
crystalball on 25.07. at 02:50
Base
LordOfWinter on 25.07. at 02:44
which allies?
crystalball on 25.07. at 00:04
all his troops are gone except what he is building and that isnt that much but I have info your allies are supporting him also
[/spoil]
I have the report if anyone wants it.
Oh, and another one about OFFEND, this one is about that external everyone blamed on HBGR
[spoil]
all he did is say that the NAP will continue
[7/25/2012 1:43:51 AM] s d: which was code for "I'm going after HBGR"
[7/25/2012 1:44:17 AM] s d: he said that once he's strong he doesnt see your nap lasting
[7/25/2012 1:44:26 AM] s d: but I figure that also meant once we are out of the way
[7/25/2012 1:45:39 AM] s d: s d
[7/16/2012 6:30:21 PM] Mark: Numer 1 spot
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kissmebaby on 15.07.2012 at 19:23Thanks Quote
1 Offend 1.422.839 1.816.915 69 26.332 424 4.285
2 Base 1.414.507 1.414.507 39 36.269 317 4.462
3 SWAG! 1.011.872 1.011.872 31 32.641 224 4.517
4 HBGR 799.537 945.828 62 15.255 252 3.753
5 PwN 798.300 939.519 58 16.199 243 3.866
6 Gents. 754.556 754.556 38 19.857 188 4.014
7 Cruel 656.800 656.800 22 29.855 147 4.468
8 4KA 641.921 641.921 33 19.452 157 4.089
9 Anrchy 542.623 592.493 54 10.972 156 3.798
10 ~D A~ 528.039 579.968 53 10.943 159 3.648
Nicely done...
Reinein on 15.07.2012 at 19:24Thanks Quote
Why are we so amazing?
abgsheen on 15.07.2012 at 21:32Thanks Quote
Congrats to everyone.
Walt The Walrus White on
Reinein wrote:
Why are we so amazing?
'Because of me. Shortly after I join we are Number 1.. coincidence, I think not.'
Ysanoire on 15.07.2012 at 23:47Thanks Quote
Unfortunately you have to be in our top 40 to actually influence our position in the rank, but we appreciate all your very valuable contribution...
xEscapeTheFate today at 14:22Thanks Quote
Rank 2 again
piyushm today at 15:55T
They(Base) just recruited two players..
-Your Worse Nightmare-
Dogslife
xEscapeTheFate today at 18:16Thanks Quote
Yeah, I saw that.
Seafood Taco today at 18:45Thanks Quote
Well two can play at that game. Excuse me while i go find some new recruits
[7/25/2012 1:45:41 AM] s d: there she is
[7/25/2012 1:45:49 AM] s d: enjoy
[7/16/2012 6:30:38 PM] Mark: Make Offend look bad [/spoil]
But I think we all know what kind of allys these players have been. So let me cut to the best part.
What led us to cancel our alliance and the last straw
[spoil] [10:53:45 AM] brichter3233: When is the plan to move everyone over. Also what is the relationship like with Offend?
[10:54:58 AM] brombree BASE MARK: Currently we have an NAP. I'm on friendlyish terms with their duke. I was just speaking to the zombie and he said he'd like to noble the villages he is nobling before joining, so probably not at least until tomorrow
[10:55:47 AM] brichter3233: ok. What other tribe members will join? just the top 5 or 10? Is Lord of Winter in this as well.
[10:56:05 AM] brombree BASE MARK: And according to new champ I am waiting for a few more players to contact me as well
[10:57:03 AM] brichter3233: Ok sounds good. So does this mean that the nap you have with HGBR will go away?
[10:58:40 AM] brombree BASE MARK: Yes, I am willing for some members to join BaseB if they are friends or w.e. though
[10:59:02 AM] brichter3233: Ok cool
[11:05:30 AM] brichter3233: I have worked in past worlds with some of the guys .. but not in the top 10 i Loud Homer.. whats your opinion on him? He is a good player.. havent worked with him much on this world but in the past I have
[11:06:22 AM] brombree BASE MARK: I have never spoken to him before, but he looks like a decent enough player
[11:06:38 AM] brombree BASE MARK: If you talk to him, and ask him to mail me if you think he is interested
[11:06:48 AM] brichter3233: im not sure about Lord of Winter i think he seems good as well.. ?
[11:07:50 AM] brombree BASE MARK: Hmm, I get the impression he is barely playing anymore as his account seems to be often sat. If he is interested in joining then by all means get him to mail me.
Brombeere today at 17:13
Basically, after all the cross-nobling crap, I have just about had enough. LOW ignores me on skype and always seems to be sat when I mail him, so any allaince between us is going to be shakey from here on. I would prefer to recruit the decent HBGR players, others may be permitted to join BaseB, or I was thinking of perhaps forming a tribe that we have diplomacy with, then removing the current diplomacy that is in place.
If you have skype it might be easier to talk there,
-Mark[/spoil]
Little did he know brichter and I have coplayed in the past
He had a proxy in our tribe named newchamp who got everyone on skype with mark and he tried to invite our top 10 and declare war on the rest. Looks like we weeded out newchamp and found out who in our tribe really is loyal.
This next one is just for laughs. It is an igm so I can forward it to anyone just like the reports of them stacking and telling our allies about our noble claims. Read bottom to top.[spoil]
Brombeere on 08.08. at 22:21
Not on my request. If you can find me a message that I initiated with a HBGR member, regarding recruitment, I will hit disband and delete. All the players who I have spoken with, approached me.
Brombeere on 08.08. at 22:12
I'm going to take the lack of response as agreement, that actually you don't have any proof that I have tried to recruit any of your members, and instead they came to me today. If you'll remember when the situation was reversed, we let Ralfiemn go to you. This seems to be a case of one thing for you, and another for us, and quite frankly that is ridiculous.
Brombeere on 08.08. at 22:01
You have proof? Can you explain this proof to me? The first I even spoke to anyone from HBGR was when I was mailed by some of your members, because they expressed interest in my tribe today.
The True Grim Reaper on 08.08. at 21:57
Letter sent to all BASE, PRE and HBGR members
Dear Brombeere
It has come to the attention of the council that for the past several days you have been trying to recruit our members behind our backs and have proof of this. This is not actions of an allied tribe.
Therefore with emmediate effect, both HBGR and PRE have reduced our diplomatic standing with your tribe to a NAP and have removed you from our noble planner.
The terms of the NAP is very simple, no BASE player is allowed to noble in K43 as we are the dominant tribe without our councils prior permission.
Should any further efforts by your tribe to try to recruit our members, the council will have no choice but too look again at our standing.
TTGR Mike[/spoil]
Brombeere, we are still waiting for you to disband your tribe.
Also, I know BASE has contacted all the tribes around us to try to get them to war us. 28thcu this one's for you.
[spoil]
[Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:03 PM] Mark:
<<< We have an 'NAP' with 28thCU, although it lasts for a month. After that, I think we plan on hitting them, you good with that?
that was when he was luring me in
use that
[Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:05 PM] Mark:
<<< (chuckle)
We'll also be hitting V!RUS soon, you're too far to want to send anything real, but a few fakes can go a long way
[/spoil]
They also tried to get us to attack HGH and Evo
If anyone needs any other follow ups or proof you can contact me on skype as lowharbinger or in game as lordofwinter
I have a lot more, will post later
Hope you enjoy the read
LOW
Duke of HBGR
As many of you know, we had been allies with BASE, I had in all ernest that we would merge at one point and I had even stated it in the forums.
I can not tell you how many times they had played dirty and bent the rules in their favor and why I was foolish for trusting this tribe.
I think Mark's own words can sum it up
It is funny when tribes that we are fighting at the time are the one's that tell me how our allies are stacking our noble claims, spiking our farms, and giving away our ops.
Where to begin? I am s.d. and our friend mark is brombeere
This is one conversation that has to do with DA
[spoil]
[7/19/2012 4:36:55 PM] s d: we can join if you want
[7/19/2012 4:37:00 PM] s d: meant to send that to michael
[7/19/2012 4:37:11 PM] s d: so he knows which near him are being taken
[7/19/2012 4:37:35 PM] Mark: There isn't much point joining, the war is practically over already
[7/19/2012 4:37:45 PM] Mark: Players are already leaving ~D A~
[7/19/2012 4:37:53 PM] s d: yeah I have no respect for that kind of abandonment
[7/19/2012 4:37:57 PM] Mark: We have already gotten 9 villages off them
[7/19/2012 4:38:06 PM] s d: thats so pathetic for them ;/
[7/19/2012 4:38:12 PM] Mark: And we only declared this morning
[7/19/2012 4:40:19 PM] s d: ah well
[7/19/2012 4:40:25 PM] s d: guess we arent part of the fun
[7/19/2012 4:40:32 PM] Mark: (chuckle)
[7/19/2012 4:40:39 PM] s d: I feel like the fat kid being picked last for dodgeball right now
[7/19/2012 4:40:44 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 4:41:01 PM] Mark: You remember that anti-Base alliance talks that were going on ages ago?
[7/19/2012 4:41:05 PM] s d: yup
[7/19/2012 4:41:15 PM] Mark: Duke of ~D A~ is tryng to get them all together again
[7/19/2012 4:41:16 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 4:41:31 PM] s d: too little too late
[7/19/2012 4:41:58 PM | Edited 4:41:59 PM] Mark: (nod)
[7/19/2012 4:42:32 PM] s d: would bother you with katalysis issue but you're busy fighting a war so I'll try to sort it with him
[7/19/2012 4:44:00 PM] Mark: (chuckle)
[7/19/2012 4:45:12 PM] s d: just tell him b/c manishj took a farm form him he can take davy jones but not the takht villa
[7/19/2012 4:45:20 PM] s d: he'll know what that means
[7/19/2012 4:45:49 PM] s d: anyway, back to real life and work
[7/19/2012 4:46:13 PM] s d: look forward to seeing you own that K in a day or two (yn)
[7/19/2012 4:46:26 PM] Mark: (chuckle)
[7/19/2012 4:46:36 PM] Mark: already took #1 off ~D A~ since some members left them
[7/19/2012 4:47:00 PM] s d: figured, thats what happens when you go up against a crap tribe
[7/19/2012 4:47:13 PM] s d: (rofl)
[7/19/2012 4:47:14 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/19/2012 4:47:17 PM] s d: OFFEND is gonna be tougher
[7/19/2012 4:47:19 PM] s d:
[7/19/2012 4:47:28 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/19/2012 4:47:31 PM] s d: luckily we have a lot of them that wanna join in that K
[7/19/2012 4:47:38 PM] s d: that feed info
[7/19/2012 4:47:58 PM] s d: could be the ultimate acid test, let them join us and see how they do against the rest of them
[7/19/2012 4:48:35 PM] s d: can you guys support some of us on the border ?
[7/19/2012 4:49:10 PM] Mark: Not right now, we have our own support a little busy with ~D A~
[7/19/2012 4:49:17 PM] s d: evne k43 members?
[7/19/2012 4:49:19 PM] Mark: But I'd say in about a week tops
[7/19/2012 4:49:23 PM] s d: ah okay
[7/19/2012 4:49:25 PM] Mark: we can spare
[7/19/2012 4:49:34 PM] s d: might be sooner than that for us
[7/19/2012 4:49:39 PM] s d: plans moving fast
[7/19/2012 4:49:57 PM] s d: got rid of the person I think was clyde's spy, got rid of most shared forums with PRE
[7/19/2012 4:50:04 PM] s d: all invites being filtered through PRE now
[7/19/2012 4:50:27 PM] s d: thinking of a separate shared forum with you guys
[7/19/2012 4:50:28 PM] s d: where we can actually discuss plans
[7/19/2012 4:50:36 PM] Mark: Ah ok
[7/19/2012 4:50:40 PM] s d: will let you know
[7/19/2012 4:50:43 PM] Mark: Sure
[7/19/2012 4:50:58 PM] s d: a hidden one where we can discuss strategy and battle plans only available to trustable members[/spoil]
After which, I had a conversation with Seafood Taco, duke of OFFEND
[spoil][7/25/2012 8:52:55 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): and i will pull him up commenting on PRE
[7/25/2012 8:54:09 AM | Edited 8:54:29 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): [7/21/2012 12:21:18 AM] Mark: Was it you who have been hitting HBGR?
[7/21/2012 12:21:19 AM] Mark: They jumped 300k ODD yesterday
[7/21/2012 12:21:20 AM] Mark: :O
[7/21/2012 12:22:01 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): i thought you knew everything that happened with HBGR
[7/21/2012 12:22:08 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): slipping in your old age?
[7/21/2012 12:22:25 AM] Mark: Nope, just haven't bothered looking in their forums in a while
[7/21/2012 12:23:04 AM] Mark: Plus I get a lot of my information from PRE and they used to share all forums, but LOW thinks you have a spy in PRE so has been limiting information in there... :|[/spoil]
Funny how he had us believing that clyde had spies in our tribe and that he wanted to fight us, and with them we had started making plans against OFFEND, thankfully, I talked to clyde first.
[spoil][7/25/2012 8:56:09 AM] s d: [Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:12 PM] Mark:
<<< About the shared planner with PRE, I don't know who, but I know Offend have a spy in there, and I think a few others might have. I would prefer to not share all my members noble claims with them (think)[/spoil]
DA war - I was still drinking the kool aid here, should have seen the early warning signs.
[spoil]
[7/19/2012 5:09:01 PM] s d: [5:04:00 PM] Raawx: We're looking to have HBGR declare war on Base.
[5:04:13 PM] Raawx: You'll be able to kick them out of your continent
[5:04:15 PM] s d: looking in the wrong place bud, we are allied
[5:04:21 PM] Raawx: Im aware.
[5:04:30 PM] Raawx: But what will come of that alliance?
[5:04:42 PM] s d: no clue but its working for us now
[5:05:53 PM] Raawx: For now.
[5:06:01 PM] Raawx: You should be thinking of the future.
[5:06:09 PM] Raawx: Base is allying you to control you.
[5:06:17 PM] Raawx: Mark would be mortified if you declared.
[5:06:25 PM] Raawx: And now is the perfect time to so.
[7/19/2012 5:09:23 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 5:09:26 PM] Mark: omg
[7/19/2012 5:09:27 PM] s d: [5:06:52 PM] s d: you should have done it earlier
[5:06:58 PM] s d: now its too late and its your own faults
[5:07:14 PM] Raawx: Believe me.
[5:07:20 PM] Raawx: I tried to merge with them.
[5:07:26 PM] Raawx: They wouldnt have it.
[5:07:37 PM] Raawx: They WILL backstab you if they become powerful enough.
[5:07:44 PM] Raawx: I thought they wouldnt do this to me.
[5:07:47 PM] Raawx: I was very wrong
[7/19/2012 5:09:41 PM] Mark: I didn't backstab anyone
[7/19/2012 5:09:47 PM] s d: I know.
[7/19/2012 5:09:49 PM] Mark: we have an expiration date on our NAP
[7/19/2012 5:09:58 PM] Mark: And we didn't send a thing till after
[7/19/2012 5:10:02 PM] s d: I know mark you dont have to explain things I know what went on
[7/19/2012 5:10:06 PM] Mark:
[7/19/2012 5:10:08 PM] s d: I just thought you might like some light reading
[7/19/2012 5:12:57 PM] s d: [5:10:06 PM] Raawx: Believe me.
[5:10:16 PM] Raawx: Dont think in the present
[5:10:19 PM] Raawx: Think in the future.
[5:10:41 PM] s d: we aren't going to fight them man I'm sorry we are allied with them and I will remain honest to my alliances
[5:10:48 PM] s d: you should find someone else to do so
[5:11:17 PM] s d: when I make an alliance two things change that, one of us disbanding or the end of the world
[5:11:25 PM] Raawx: Are you just afraid?
[5:11:30 PM] Raawx: Of Base?
[5:11:32 PM] s d: not afraid, just honest
[5:11:41 PM] Raawx: Why do you think they tried so ahrd to get this alliance with you?
[5:11:52 PM] s d: if I lose I'll lose in a stand up fight, not by backstabbing someone
[5:11:52 PM] Raawx: To protect their members.
[5:12:00 PM] Raawx: You wont be.
[5:12:06 PM] Raawx: You'll be fighting for a just cause.
[5:12:07 PM] s d: doesn't matter why they did it
[5:12:14 PM] s d: we agreed to it
[5:12:17 PM] s d: and we've worked together
[5:12:18 PM] Raawx: Base has backstabbed many other tribes before.
[5:12:26 PM] Raawx: When does the alliance end?
[5:12:32 PM] Raawx: Or does it?
[5:12:34 PM] s d: I rather be rimmed than go against my word
[7/19/2012 5:13:48 PM] Mark: [Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:12 PM] s d:
<<< [5:12:18 PM] Raawx: Base has backstabbed many other tribes before.Ask him for examples :|
[7/19/2012 5:15:28 PM] s d: I gave you my word I would be your ally, that's not going to change until we disband, get crushed, or you actually backstab us... since I don't think you are one to break your word either option 3 is the end of the world
[7/19/2012 5:15:51 PM] s d: or disbanding / getting crushed... so I think I am going to block this guy
[7/19/2012 5:15:58 PM] s d: he's actually starting to get annoying
[7/19/2012 5:16:26 PM] s d: this quote is my favorite
[7/19/2012 5:16:28 PM] s d: [Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:13 PM] Raawx:
<<< Why not do it when your tribe is in power?
No.
You will.
You cant hug forever.
I've learnt that the hard way.
I'm doing this because I care for you guys.
And tbh, war is actually really fun.
[7/19/2012 5:17:16 PM] Mark: He's annoying
[7/19/2012 5:17:18 PM] Mark: (nod)
[7/19/2012 5:17:44 PM] s d: trying anything to save his own ass
[7/19/2012 5:18:22 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/19/2012 5:21:01 PM] s d: like I said you guys don't have to worry I know you aren't one to backstab someone
[/spoil]
Looks like I was wrong
[spoil]
[7/5/2012 6:01:12 PM] Raawx: Sounds good.
[7/5/2012 6:01:20 PM] Raawx: Let me pull up the previous terms
[7/5/2012 6:01:51 PM] Mark: Sure
[7/5/2012 6:02:53 PM] Raawx: Bah I cant find it. >.<
[7/5/2012 6:02:56 PM] Raawx: Ill keep looking.
[7/5/2012 6:04:00 PM] Raawx: Here:
[7/5/2012 6:04:01 PM] Raawx: - The NAP will expire automatically, if an extension is not agreed, on 5th July (15 days).
- If the NAP is not extended or ends for another reason, there is a 5 day no-attack period.
- The point of contact in Base is 10307645. The point of contact in ~D A~ is Howey.
[7/5/2012 6:04:14 PM] Mark: Yeah
[7/5/2012 6:04:24 PM] Mark: I will now be the point of contact (think)
[7/5/2012 6:04:30 PM] Raawx: Yeah I assumed that much.
[7/5/2012 6:04:39 PM] Raawx: Hmm.
[7/5/2012 6:04:52 PM] Raawx: How does the 19th sound?
[7/5/2012 6:05:18 PM] Mark: That seems fine to me
[/spoil]
they obviously stabbed them in the back as well, grace period? lol
At this point I would like to say that, even though we had no previous relations with the tribe OFFEND, their duke has always been forthright and honest in his dealings.
[spoil]
<<< HBGR - LordOfWinter today at 07:11
Thanks Quote
already tension with offend and spies in their tribe. Noble as many as you can.
[7/20/2012 2:14:23 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): guess something like that would be a bit of a stab in the back
[7/20/2012 2:14:42 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): on marks behalf
[7/20/2012 2:14:53 AM] s d: noble as many as you can?
[7/20/2012 2:14:55 AM] s d: hmm
[7/20/2012 2:15:02 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): him passing me that info
[7/20/2012 2:16:17 AM] s d: I'd love to see the whole conversation
[7/20/2012 2:16:36 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): [Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:32 PM] Mark:
<<< [Monday, July 09, 2012 9:53 AM] s d:
<<< planning an op on ebenezerz
if anyone of your guys want in
and take a large villa
I dont mind splitting him up and giving everyone that participates a fair share
[7/20/2012 2:16:56 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): that one has gotta be more of a stab in the back
[7/20/2012 2:17:03 AM] s d: ouch
[7/20/2012 2:17:18 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): i know you got the info about SG from mark
[7/20/2012 2:17:29 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): he stabbed me in the back with that one
[7/20/2012 2:17:48 AM] s d: :/
[7/20/2012 2:17:55 AM] s d: I'm actually pretty well connected
[7/20/2012 2:18:37 AM] The Clyde (Seafood Taco): me too
[7/20/2012 2:18:54 AM] s d: and you should think twice on who does externals
[/spoil]
It is funny that I find out form my enemies at the time that Mark had been telling them about our ops. 2 1/2 nukes lost there.
on that note
[spoil]
crystalball on 25.07. at 02:59
sent
LordOfWinter on 25.07. at 02:51
hmmm confirmation of that would easily make me swayed to turn you into allies
crystalball on 25.07. at 02:50
Base
LordOfWinter on 25.07. at 02:44
which allies?
crystalball on 25.07. at 00:04
all his troops are gone except what he is building and that isnt that much but I have info your allies are supporting him also
[/spoil]
I have the report if anyone wants it.
Oh, and another one about OFFEND, this one is about that external everyone blamed on HBGR
[spoil]
all he did is say that the NAP will continue
[7/25/2012 1:43:51 AM] s d: which was code for "I'm going after HBGR"
[7/25/2012 1:44:17 AM] s d: he said that once he's strong he doesnt see your nap lasting
[7/25/2012 1:44:26 AM] s d: but I figure that also meant once we are out of the way
[7/25/2012 1:45:39 AM] s d: s d
[7/16/2012 6:30:21 PM] Mark: Numer 1 spot
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kissmebaby on 15.07.2012 at 19:23Thanks Quote
1 Offend 1.422.839 1.816.915 69 26.332 424 4.285
2 Base 1.414.507 1.414.507 39 36.269 317 4.462
3 SWAG! 1.011.872 1.011.872 31 32.641 224 4.517
4 HBGR 799.537 945.828 62 15.255 252 3.753
5 PwN 798.300 939.519 58 16.199 243 3.866
6 Gents. 754.556 754.556 38 19.857 188 4.014
7 Cruel 656.800 656.800 22 29.855 147 4.468
8 4KA 641.921 641.921 33 19.452 157 4.089
9 Anrchy 542.623 592.493 54 10.972 156 3.798
10 ~D A~ 528.039 579.968 53 10.943 159 3.648
Nicely done...
Reinein on 15.07.2012 at 19:24Thanks Quote
Why are we so amazing?
abgsheen on 15.07.2012 at 21:32Thanks Quote
Congrats to everyone.
Walt The Walrus White on
Reinein wrote:
Why are we so amazing?
'Because of me. Shortly after I join we are Number 1.. coincidence, I think not.'
Ysanoire on 15.07.2012 at 23:47Thanks Quote
Unfortunately you have to be in our top 40 to actually influence our position in the rank, but we appreciate all your very valuable contribution...
xEscapeTheFate today at 14:22Thanks Quote
Rank 2 again
piyushm today at 15:55T
They(Base) just recruited two players..
-Your Worse Nightmare-
Dogslife
xEscapeTheFate today at 18:16Thanks Quote
Yeah, I saw that.
Seafood Taco today at 18:45Thanks Quote
Well two can play at that game. Excuse me while i go find some new recruits
[7/25/2012 1:45:41 AM] s d: there she is
[7/25/2012 1:45:49 AM] s d: enjoy
[7/16/2012 6:30:38 PM] Mark: Make Offend look bad [/spoil]
But I think we all know what kind of allys these players have been. So let me cut to the best part.
What led us to cancel our alliance and the last straw
[spoil] [10:53:45 AM] brichter3233: When is the plan to move everyone over. Also what is the relationship like with Offend?
[10:54:58 AM] brombree BASE MARK: Currently we have an NAP. I'm on friendlyish terms with their duke. I was just speaking to the zombie and he said he'd like to noble the villages he is nobling before joining, so probably not at least until tomorrow
[10:55:47 AM] brichter3233: ok. What other tribe members will join? just the top 5 or 10? Is Lord of Winter in this as well.
[10:56:05 AM] brombree BASE MARK: And according to new champ I am waiting for a few more players to contact me as well
[10:57:03 AM] brichter3233: Ok sounds good. So does this mean that the nap you have with HGBR will go away?
[10:58:40 AM] brombree BASE MARK: Yes, I am willing for some members to join BaseB if they are friends or w.e. though
[10:59:02 AM] brichter3233: Ok cool
[11:05:30 AM] brichter3233: I have worked in past worlds with some of the guys .. but not in the top 10 i Loud Homer.. whats your opinion on him? He is a good player.. havent worked with him much on this world but in the past I have
[11:06:22 AM] brombree BASE MARK: I have never spoken to him before, but he looks like a decent enough player
[11:06:38 AM] brombree BASE MARK: If you talk to him, and ask him to mail me if you think he is interested
[11:06:48 AM] brichter3233: im not sure about Lord of Winter i think he seems good as well.. ?
[11:07:50 AM] brombree BASE MARK: Hmm, I get the impression he is barely playing anymore as his account seems to be often sat. If he is interested in joining then by all means get him to mail me.
Brombeere today at 17:13
Basically, after all the cross-nobling crap, I have just about had enough. LOW ignores me on skype and always seems to be sat when I mail him, so any allaince between us is going to be shakey from here on. I would prefer to recruit the decent HBGR players, others may be permitted to join BaseB, or I was thinking of perhaps forming a tribe that we have diplomacy with, then removing the current diplomacy that is in place.
If you have skype it might be easier to talk there,
-Mark[/spoil]
Little did he know brichter and I have coplayed in the past
He had a proxy in our tribe named newchamp who got everyone on skype with mark and he tried to invite our top 10 and declare war on the rest. Looks like we weeded out newchamp and found out who in our tribe really is loyal.
This next one is just for laughs. It is an igm so I can forward it to anyone just like the reports of them stacking and telling our allies about our noble claims. Read bottom to top.[spoil]
Brombeere on 08.08. at 22:21
Not on my request. If you can find me a message that I initiated with a HBGR member, regarding recruitment, I will hit disband and delete. All the players who I have spoken with, approached me.
Brombeere on 08.08. at 22:12
I'm going to take the lack of response as agreement, that actually you don't have any proof that I have tried to recruit any of your members, and instead they came to me today. If you'll remember when the situation was reversed, we let Ralfiemn go to you. This seems to be a case of one thing for you, and another for us, and quite frankly that is ridiculous.
Brombeere on 08.08. at 22:01
You have proof? Can you explain this proof to me? The first I even spoke to anyone from HBGR was when I was mailed by some of your members, because they expressed interest in my tribe today.
The True Grim Reaper on 08.08. at 21:57
Letter sent to all BASE, PRE and HBGR members
Dear Brombeere
It has come to the attention of the council that for the past several days you have been trying to recruit our members behind our backs and have proof of this. This is not actions of an allied tribe.
Therefore with emmediate effect, both HBGR and PRE have reduced our diplomatic standing with your tribe to a NAP and have removed you from our noble planner.
The terms of the NAP is very simple, no BASE player is allowed to noble in K43 as we are the dominant tribe without our councils prior permission.
Should any further efforts by your tribe to try to recruit our members, the council will have no choice but too look again at our standing.
TTGR Mike[/spoil]
Brombeere, we are still waiting for you to disband your tribe.
Also, I know BASE has contacted all the tribes around us to try to get them to war us. 28thcu this one's for you.
[spoil]
[Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:03 PM] Mark:
<<< We have an 'NAP' with 28thCU, although it lasts for a month. After that, I think we plan on hitting them, you good with that?
that was when he was luring me in
use that
[Wednesday, August 08, 2012 1:05 PM] Mark:
<<< (chuckle)
We'll also be hitting V!RUS soon, you're too far to want to send anything real, but a few fakes can go a long way
[/spoil]
They also tried to get us to attack HGH and Evo
If anyone needs any other follow ups or proof you can contact me on skype as lowharbinger or in game as lordofwinter
I have a lot more, will post later
Hope you enjoy the read
LOW
Duke of HBGR
