Nation

DeletedUser56596

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Hello, I was just a little curious about anybodys thoughts about Nation? Besides the lame name please lol
 

tman93

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-1 for not putting up links.

Pretend that everyone on the forums are lazy and don't want to do research and make their lives a little easier. :p
 

DeletedUser56596

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Sorry for no links im running off a crappy Internet connection.
There the 12th strongest tribe on w54 at the moment. And currently at war with soon. And the stats show an almost even war after ten days.
 

DeletedUser98416

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well there is one thing u deffinitly need to do guys...cut the dead weight till atleast 60 members...

OD rank is same like points ranking ranking...witch is average...double more ODA than ODD witch shows u attacked more than deffended so far...but u said u are at war with S00N for about 10 days...well lets see how u deffend and attack them... good luck tough i doubt it will help mutch ;)
 

DeletedUser

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Sorry for no links im running off a crappy Internet connection.
There the 12th strongest tribe on w54 at the moment. And currently at war with soon. And the stats show an almost even war after ten days.

16 of the vills you took were 2 inactive players, congrats:lol:
 

Brancian

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Pretty even indeed. When that is said, they jumped in seeing TBD is at war with S00N. They took quite a few villages of two inactive players. S00N are fighting at two fronts atm, and not doing to bad.

Side 1:
Tribes: S00N
Side 2:
Tribes: Nation

Timeframe: 03/05/2011 00:00:00 to 13/05/2011 11:15:17

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 41
Side 2: 41
Difference: 0

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 315,576
Side 2: 307,237
Difference: 8,339

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Now the ODD has been rising from the attacks from TBD the last month. And S00N focused mainly on them.

But i think its only fair to show the stats from that as well to explain the even stats with Nation. Im quite sure S00N will reorganize and give Nation some focus S00N enough :axemen:

Side 1:
Tribes: S00N
Side 2:
Tribes: TBD

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 27
Side 2: 11
Difference: 16

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 163,457
Side 2: 94,195
Difference: 69,262

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DeletedUser98809

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Quite, doesn't look like your off to a bad start S00N :) nice to see. Good luck.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Brancian shows a very accurate rundown of the situation going on here. Let me just add that there were indeed two players who were taken in by s00n because they showed promise, but who turned out to be huge failures when it came down to actual war. They went inactive when they saw some incomings and henceforth about 15 easy captures were made by Nation at the start. Of course, they have now been kicked. However instead of Teacherman's approach I say it's our own fault for letting them join. What's happened, happened. And we suffered the consequences.

The stats are thus all legit. Though Nation had had a long time preparing for this war and really had the element of surprise on s00n. That, and s00n has also been busy fighting TBD (quite succesfully, I might add. Looking at the circumstances). Looking at all these facts, s00n is still doing very good in my opinion. Nation, not so well. Seeing they HAD the upper hand and failed to fully benefit from it.

As for my general opinion on Nation: seeing they are more of a rim tribe than us, but with an almost full membership count: no doubt a low quality mass recruiting tribe. Even more so because I still see them taking in low-stat players. Mostly in critical area's where s00n is dominating. Their ODA and ODD is mainly from warring us. Attacks are obvious, sloppy and uncoordinated except from the very start of the war (which is to expect if you plan on it). I feel slightly ashamed that they managed to take so many villages from us. But the reasons for that are already given.
 
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derek1608

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16 of the vills you took were 2 inactive players, congrats:lol:

Case of sour grapes I belive

Side 1:
Tribes: Nation
Side 2:
Players: Teacherman

Timeframe: Forever


Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 10
Side 2: 1
Difference: 9

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 87,461
Side 2: 8,481
Difference: 78,980

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DeletedUser

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The stats on TBD are slightly skewed considering 25 of their conquers have been an inactive account tuge. Their stats against active players have been less impressive. Not the best showing from our side it has to be said. But far from the portrayed 27 - 11 that is shown. More like 2 - 11.

[spoil]Coming Soon (236|574) K52 6,920 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-09 13:11:54
Fezzik (234|579) K52 6,568 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-09 03:22:48
The Hibernia (235|574) K52 7,331 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-08 19:03:43
Coming Soon (237|576) K52 6,931 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-08 02:54:58
araro (241|581) K52 3,192 tuge [TBD] jimini [S00N] 2011-05-07 13:36:10
Hawiian Snow (239|580) K52 5,535 tuge [TBD] bryangolfs [S00N] 2011-05-04 00:43:08
The Kangaroo (236|577) K52 8,827 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-04 00:33:42
Coming Soon (234|575) K52 8,803 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-03 17:05:14
OH10 001 (231|579) K52 3,824 tuge [TBD] OH10 [S00N] 2011-05-03 16:25:05
The Kingfisher (238|578) K52 8,765 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-03 07:36:56
Ice (235|584) K52 4,513 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-02 19:01:19
ROME 002 (231|578) K52 4,416 tuge [TBD] OH10 [S00N] 2011-05-02 15:49:48
NYC Diesel (241|576) K52 5,380 tuge [TBD] bryangolfs [S00N] 2011-05-02 15:04:21
Isolation (231|584) K52 8,550 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-02 15:00:25
Coming Soon (241|577) K52 8,056 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-02 14:18:17
Coming Soon (242|581) K52 7,415 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-02 07:27:48
Ise (230|584) K52 4,258 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-02 05:59:51
Coming Soon (245|580) K52 3,702 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-02 01:40:42
Coming Soon (242|582) K52 5,275 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-01 23:41:39
Coming Soon (241|578) K52 5,834 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-01 22:23:06
Coming Soon (248|583) K52 3,860 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-01 20:17:53
Coming Soon (230|582) K52 8,554 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-01 20:07:59
Coming Soon (249|583) K52 3,193 tuge [TBD] jimini [S00N] 2011-05-01 18:27:22
Coming Soon (245|581) K52 3,560 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-01 17:09:37
Coming Soon (246|576) K52 7,119 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-01 05:29:48[/spoil]
 

DeletedUser

Guest
-1 for not putting up links.

Pretend that everyone on the forums are lazy and don't want to do research and make their lives a little easier. :p

Thats not pretend, thats true story.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
The stats on TBD are slightly skewed considering 25 of their conquers have been an inactive account tuge. Their stats against active players have been less impressive. Not the best showing from our side it has to be said. But far from the portrayed 27 - 11 that is shown. More like 2 - 11.

[spoil]Coming Soon (236|574) K52 6,920 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-09 13:11:54
Fezzik (234|579) K52 6,568 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-09 03:22:48
The Hibernia (235|574) K52 7,331 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-08 19:03:43
Coming Soon (237|576) K52 6,931 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-08 02:54:58
araro (241|581) K52 3,192 tuge [TBD] jimini [S00N] 2011-05-07 13:36:10
Hawiian Snow (239|580) K52 5,535 tuge [TBD] bryangolfs [S00N] 2011-05-04 00:43:08
The Kangaroo (236|577) K52 8,827 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-04 00:33:42
Coming Soon (234|575) K52 8,803 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-03 17:05:14
OH10 001 (231|579) K52 3,824 tuge [TBD] OH10 [S00N] 2011-05-03 16:25:05
The Kingfisher (238|578) K52 8,765 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-03 07:36:56
Ice (235|584) K52 4,513 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-02 19:01:19
ROME 002 (231|578) K52 4,416 tuge [TBD] OH10 [S00N] 2011-05-02 15:49:48
NYC Diesel (241|576) K52 5,380 tuge [TBD] bryangolfs [S00N] 2011-05-02 15:04:21
Isolation (231|584) K52 8,550 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-02 15:00:25
Coming Soon (241|577) K52 8,056 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-02 14:18:17
Coming Soon (242|581) K52 7,415 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-02 07:27:48
Ise (230|584) K52 4,258 tuge [TBD] minhtriet1011 [S00N] 2011-05-02 05:59:51
Coming Soon (245|580) K52 3,702 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-02 01:40:42
Coming Soon (242|582) K52 5,275 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-01 23:41:39
Coming Soon (241|578) K52 5,834 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-01 22:23:06
Coming Soon (248|583) K52 3,860 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-01 20:17:53
Coming Soon (230|582) K52 8,554 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-01 20:07:59
Coming Soon (249|583) K52 3,193 tuge [TBD] jimini [S00N] 2011-05-01 18:27:22
Coming Soon (245|581) K52 3,560 tuge [TBD] War-baron [S00N] 2011-05-01 17:09:37
Coming Soon (246|576) K52 7,119 tuge [TBD] Rippa150 [S00N] 2011-05-01 05:29:48[/spoil]

They aren't any different to the conquers from Nation on two of our inactive players. Again, my opinion is it's the tribe's fault for having them in the tribe. Therefore the stats are legit (imo).
 

DeletedUser

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Case of sour grapes I belive

Side 1:
Tribes: Nation
Side 2:
Players: Teacherman

Timeframe: Forever


Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 10
Side 2: 1
Difference: 9

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 87,461
Side 2: 8,481
Difference: 78,980

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Check my ODD mate 1.3Mill in the war with NO tribal support except in my southern vill whichwas only hit with fakes, I gave you hell;)
 

DeletedUser

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They aren't any different to the conquers from Nation on two of our inactive players. Again, my opinion is it's the tribe's fault for having them in the tribe. Therefore the stats are legit (imo).

You would consider them legitimate conquers as they make the stats appear to be greatly in your favour. And they do count towards the raw statistics. But as a decider of a tribes skill/co-ordination, inactive conquers demonstrate nothing. The fact you have managed to take 2 villages off any active players shows nothing about your ability as a tribe.
 

DeletedUser

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You would consider them legitimate conquers as they make the stats appear to be greatly in your favour. And they do count towards the raw statistics. But as a decider of a tribes skill/co-ordination, inactive conquers demonstrate nothing. The fact you have managed to take 2 villages off any active players shows nothing about your ability as a tribe.

Really now? If that would be the case, I would be waving off Nation's conquers as unlegitimate as well, wouldn't I? But I don't, and that actually makes the stats look worse for us. In TBD's case, it doesn't. But that doesn't mean I take in this opinion "because it makes the stats appear to be in our favour". It is as it is.

Also, there's quite more than 2 vills we took from your active players. Be it also from the numerous previous tribes that the current TBD tribe now exists out of. The fact that they merge/change names/kick players any time things don't look so well for them shows alot about your current tribe as well. You know very well we've had succesfull ops on some big players. You're probably just too proud to admit it. And almost every time, one or two days after the op everyone here wondered either why the player had become tribeless or why his tribe suddenly massively dropped in points. And oh hey, yet another tribe popps up and takes #1 position again. Hmmm... curious.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Really now? If that would be the case, I would be waving off Nation's conquers as unlegitimate as well, wouldn't I? But I don't, and that actually makes the stats look worse for us. In TBD's case, it doesn't. But that doesn't mean I take in this opinion "because it makes the stats appear to be in our favour". It is as it is.

Also, there's quite more than 2 vills we took from your active players. Be it also from the numerous previous tribes that the current TBD tribe now exists out of. The fact that they merge/change names/kick players any time things don't look so well for them shows alot about your current tribe as well. You know very well we've had succesfull ops on some big players. You're probably just too proud to admit it. And almost every time, one or two days after the op everyone here wondered either why the player had become tribeless or why his tribe suddenly massively dropped in points. And oh hey, yet another tribe popps up and takes #1 position again. Hmmm... curious.

Check the stats, there are two villages that are not tuge taken from TBD by S00N. The purpose of moving from CHiK3N to TBD was to cut the inactive players that were either not participating and again easy caps for anyone attacking them, so to all intents and purposes . As far as I know there have been no players kicked from TBD that were under S00N attack. So if by successful ops you mean you have taken a single village, yes they were both extremely successful.

If you are insinuating that the main reason for the formation of TBD was that S00N was doing so much damage to CHiK3N we needed to reform to save face then maybe you should stop thinking you're quite so influential to our tribe. There were a few reasons and none of them were because of you.
 
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