*optimal* nuke?

CholoDrew

Guest
What, in your opinion, is the best ratio?

I was thinking for axes/LC that 2k-3k lc with the rest being axes would work well.
 

Woodlandapple

Guest
7k axes 1250lc 1150hc 250 rams.

Call me crazy, but I have my reasons.
 

CholoDrew

Guest
Wouldn't you need like a super nuke village to get that? with 10% pop

7k axes = 7k
+ 1250 lc = 5k
+ 1150hc = 6.9k
+250 rams = 1.25k
= 20.15k

actually, i misread, thats just normal pop:s
 

CholoDrew

Guest
i know 219 rams is the required amount to take down a lvl 20 wall, but what about cats for a lvl 30 building? 25? 20?
 

Woodlandapple

Guest
Oh yeah forgot cats. 5 for rally point. No more needed.


And 219 is required, but 235 is most effective on a non-stacked vil. I dump in the extra 15 for fakes.
 

CholoDrew

Guest
I love pissing people off by destroying farms, hqs, and warehouses:D
 

Woodlandapple

Guest
If you want to do that, have a specialised cat village.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
theres no such thing as an 'optimal' nuke. only standard, and different builds. Offense should always be based off the village you are attacking's defense.

If you don't know it, send a standard nuke.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
The Best Nuke by far is: 210
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overcast

Guest
I prefer these two:

8000 axes
2800 l cav
230 rams
10 cats


8000 axes
2000 l cav
750 m archers
230 rams
10 cats

Mounted nuke is good against the 1/2/2 ratio...
 

DeletedUser

Guest
theres no such thing as an 'optimal' nuke. only standard, and different builds. Offense should always be based off the village you are attacking's defense.

If you don't know it, send a standard nuke.

Optimal would be the one that works the best vs. the most common defense out there. Anything else is specially tailored to the particular player, but if you're sending in nukes blindly, you need to prepare to face the most common build, and that would be an optimal nuke.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
problem is that theres no 'optimal' defense either. The strongest (1:1:1:0) takes so long that its only a viable option in peacetime. In war, a 4:0:0:1 build is best, because it gets your D out the door much faster.

I've taken villas that used the 1:1:1:0 defense with 2 nukes tops. Yeah, the players didn't have many villages to work with, but when I finally got them, the queues were horribly long. I took one that had the queue going for almost 2 weeks.

All in all, if you are COMPLETLY safe from everything for about a month, go with the 1:1:1:0 ratio. If you aren't then use 4:0:0:1.

Now, this started out as a response to your statement that there was an optimal defense and an optimal nuke. That simply isn't true. There is no one-size-fits-all offensive or defensive ratio.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I never mentioned optimal defense, only a most common defense. There has to be a most common defense, therefore there has to be an optimal offense. 1:1:1 and 4:1 sp/hc are probably the most common, so the offensive combination that works best vs. either of those is likely the best one to go for if you're unable to scout your enemies.

I mean, you either know what your enemy is using and build specifically against that, or you don't, and you build against the most common defense. Pretty straight-forward.
 

CholoDrew

Guest
I was going to make a pure axe nuke, but got bored because farming sucked...
 
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