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lol, well i wouldnt know they recruited me as well
DeletedUser
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We weren't planning anything on you :icon_biggrin:
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DeletedUser
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We were afraid that the authorities would arrest us 
DeletedUser3932
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I think I proved several times that we got the player who actually attacked throughout the war, hence why we got the player with the most caps against our 'coalition'...
You can't argue with fact pal, in-case you didn't read them before I'll re-post:
This clearly shows, our recruits have had WAY more caps in this war. And less losses. So how can you say this:
I have just proved by unequivocal reasoning that we recruited the Splat members who did something in the war those that proved they have skill. Whereas in-fact you are the ones who have recruited the lazy/semi-active non-team working players and just wanted the immediate point gain that it gave you. Well done, through your poor recruiting standards you have made the top 10.
Now, regarding this:
Do you honestly think, that we did not have op's planned for your new recruits. Don't be naive...
The difference here is, our recruit would probably be able to do well against Orange. Your recruits would crumble within 5 minutes against NIR.
You can't argue with fact pal, in-case you didn't read them before I'll re-post:
This clearly shows, our recruits have had WAY more caps in this war. And less losses. So how can you say this:
and
I have just proved by unequivocal reasoning that we recruited the Splat members who did something in the war those that proved they have skill. Whereas in-fact you are the ones who have recruited the lazy/semi-active non-team working players and just wanted the immediate point gain that it gave you. Well done, through your poor recruiting standards you have made the top 10.
Now, regarding this:
Do you honestly think, that we did not have op's planned for your new recruits. Don't be naive...
The difference here is, our recruit would probably be able to do well against Orange. Your recruits would crumble within 5 minutes against NIR.
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ted hush
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Did you approach us asking us not to recruit people you had ops planned on? We contacted you regarding Noobslayer well before you recruited him.
DeletedUser3932
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So your going to ignore 9/10 of my post... guess you realize I'm correct then...
I don't know where they did or not, neither do I know whether you did... All I know is we were planning an op on several of your recruits...
I don't know where they did or not, neither do I know whether you did... All I know is we were planning an op on several of your recruits...
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Alright, let's address the rest of your post. In it you point to the conquers of the members you recruited during the war and the conquers of the members we recruited.
Yes, you are right the people you recruited did have more conquers. However, to say that the people we recruited do not participate as much as the ones that you did is unfair to them. Not everyone was at the frontline where they could get many conquers.
However, they did participate.
ckong, snatske, and Loard Chaos all have the silver level Reliable commander and death of a hero awards. Those obviously aren't the only people we recruited, but I believe it proves my point. While they may not have had a large hand offensively, someone had to sacrifice their troops to help stack those who were doing their job offensively.
Yes, you are right the people you recruited did have more conquers. However, to say that the people we recruited do not participate as much as the ones that you did is unfair to them. Not everyone was at the frontline where they could get many conquers.
However, they did participate.
ckong, snatske, and Loard Chaos all have the silver level Reliable commander and death of a hero awards. Those obviously aren't the only people we recruited, but I believe it proves my point. While they may not have had a large hand offensively, someone had to sacrifice their troops to help stack those who were doing their job offensively.
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Ok, so you state that perhaps I offered a narrow-minded view with regards to what makes players useful in wars, and I guess you have a point. But you have also almost done the same, so I'm going to take a more broad stance to it.
Since you brought him up:
Lord-Chaos:
Lord-Choas lost 3 villages in the war, 2 I believe to one of your members, Purple Ranger[part of Hi! at the time], so to state that he wasn't present on the front-lines is slightly false.
Now, I hate to pick apart players qualities, but I have only just looked up this chap on twstats to be honest, and do you know what struck me about him? Lets looks at his ennoblements during the war shall we:
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mass 012 (374|537) K53 97 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-12 00:56:12
mass 011 (405|578) K54 138 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-10 20:58:20
mass 010 (388|574) K53 192 lloydw [Brawl] Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-09 08:37:38
027 Its the unicorn (368|538) K53 7,785 petercarots [NIR] Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-05 04:50:40
mass 005 (393|577) K53 3,384 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-01 04:55:07
mass 008 (392|580) K53 167 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-10-30 04:42:17
mass 007 (399|576) K53 76 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-10-28 04:07:23
mass 006 (399|574) K53 116 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-10-28 03:10:5
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Thats an incredible 6 barb noblement out of 8 during a war, with one of the player villages being a 192 point stunner.
I think you should be more worried about whether this guy actually has any talent what-so-ever not stating that he's got an award.
Lets be honest. If a guy came to your recruiters with this sort of record, I doubt he would normally get a look in, if he would then its all the more worrying for Orange. So one must come to the conclusion that he was recruited because he was an enemy in a war, and you guys wanted to recruit, not noble this player.
So I managed to pick apart one of your recruits, who you offered up as being one of the better ones, in a matter of minutes.
The other two, I agree were not on the front-line. But does it really take much skill to send a heap of support to a player? I mean really...?
To say these players have been proven in war, because they can send support is absurd.
In-fact your argument doesn't stand up to inspection really...
If you look at the following map:
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Key:
Blue=NIR
Orange=Orange
Green=NIR recruits
Light Blue=Orange recruits[/spoil]
From this map, you can clearly see that a large part of our recruits are further away from the action. And infact on the the most southern members, Underground Authority, who was miles away when the action began, now have 4 caps. That is 40% of the amount all 8 of your recruits have managed. Despite being clearly a lot further away.
I'm pretty sure he was also stacking people to hell and back too.
So do you not see now? What other poor argument do you have to make?
Since you brought him up:
Lord-Chaos:
Lord-Choas lost 3 villages in the war, 2 I believe to one of your members, Purple Ranger[part of Hi! at the time], so to state that he wasn't present on the front-lines is slightly false.
Now, I hate to pick apart players qualities, but I have only just looked up this chap on twstats to be honest, and do you know what struck me about him? Lets looks at his ennoblements during the war shall we:
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mass 012 (374|537) K53 97 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-12 00:56:12
mass 011 (405|578) K54 138 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-10 20:58:20
mass 010 (388|574) K53 192 lloydw [Brawl] Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-09 08:37:38
027 Its the unicorn (368|538) K53 7,785 petercarots [NIR] Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-05 04:50:40
mass 005 (393|577) K53 3,384 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-11-01 04:55:07
mass 008 (392|580) K53 167 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-10-30 04:42:17
mass 007 (399|576) K53 76 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-10-28 04:07:23
mass 006 (399|574) K53 116 Barbarian Lord-Chaos [: )] 2012-10-28 03:10:5
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Thats an incredible 6 barb noblement out of 8 during a war, with one of the player villages being a 192 point stunner.
I think you should be more worried about whether this guy actually has any talent what-so-ever not stating that he's got an award.
Lets be honest. If a guy came to your recruiters with this sort of record, I doubt he would normally get a look in, if he would then its all the more worrying for Orange. So one must come to the conclusion that he was recruited because he was an enemy in a war, and you guys wanted to recruit, not noble this player.
So I managed to pick apart one of your recruits, who you offered up as being one of the better ones, in a matter of minutes.
The other two, I agree were not on the front-line. But does it really take much skill to send a heap of support to a player? I mean really...?
To say these players have been proven in war, because they can send support is absurd.
In-fact your argument doesn't stand up to inspection really...
If you look at the following map:
[spoil]
Key:
Blue=NIR
Orange=Orange
Green=NIR recruits
Light Blue=Orange recruits[/spoil]
From this map, you can clearly see that a large part of our recruits are further away from the action. And infact on the the most southern members, Underground Authority, who was miles away when the action began, now have 4 caps. That is 40% of the amount all 8 of your recruits have managed. Despite being clearly a lot further away.
I'm pretty sure he was also stacking people to hell and back too.
So do you not see now? What other poor argument do you have to make?
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mods this can be closed splat war's basically over
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Coming from a former SPLAT! member currently in NIR.
ckong did nothing the whole entire war, I set up an OP against peter carrots he claimed 4 villages, with no nobles. He refused to un-claim them from the noble planner and, after we took the majority of petercarrots villages 2 days later he comes and takes a village, such a disappointment.
Next, Snatske the only decent player you got out of the group at least from my dealings. However, very bad communicator and, its like folding a paper 9 times just to set up an OP with him.
Lord-Chaos, this one i giggle a little about. I actually took tests and, my dog is in fact a better player than him. Might be hard to believe but, its true.
So, you choose these 3 players thinking they're good? i lol'd all there all terrible and SPLAT fell apart because of players like this so, have fun.
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lol. Only one of the people you recruited actually fired anything in the war.
Splat don't have 34 takes in the war. 34 retakes maybe, but the vast majority were not done those players. SIUTK I get the rest is point whoring no matter how you justify it.
The guys you recruited are why splat lost the war (with the exception of SIUTK). They never fired anything at any time except against there own tribe. Cause they sure did some mighty internalling..... I tell a lie they did attack an inactive of a 2 man tribe.
Splat don't have 34 takes in the war. 34 retakes maybe, but the vast majority were not done those players. SIUTK I get the rest is point whoring no matter how you justify it.
The guys you recruited are why splat lost the war (with the exception of SIUTK). They never fired anything at any time except against there own tribe. Cause they sure did some mighty internalling..... I tell a lie they did attack an inactive of a 2 man tribe.
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We emptied pretty much all our def to support Splat! and when we tried to perform OP's with the smaller players, snatske and ckong being 2 of them, they couldn't be stuffed helping at all, hence why we left
DeletedUser3932
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Wow... I even repeated my post. These stats are from the war, which I think you'll find. If you add up all of our recruits caps, adds up to 34 (probably more now :icon_biggrin
... Please stop looking retarded.... Next time, actually look up the stats, and maybe then you will realize how wrong you are.
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They are really interesting numbers. This is what your near million points contributed to the war. This includes retakes. Back to the main point point whores....
I suggest you look more closely next time.
Side 1:
Players: Noobslayerpro, Underground Authority, Martiaz, tjwells28, Clay Morrow, danny the destroyer
Side 2:
Tribes: NIR, Orange
Timeframe: Forever
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 4
Side 2: 2
Difference: 2
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 30,064
Side 2: 12,212
Difference: 17,852
I suggest you look more closely next time.
Side 1:
Players: Noobslayerpro, Underground Authority, Martiaz, tjwells28, Clay Morrow, danny the destroyer
Side 2:
Tribes: NIR, Orange
Timeframe: Forever
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 4
Side 2: 2
Difference: 2
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 30,064
Side 2: 12,212
Difference: 17,852
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Incase you didn't read the title of the war... as I was reminded several times...
It was never just Orange and NIR...
Please re-look at the official war stats...
NIR's top 4 recruited noblers:
2 Somebody I Used To Know NIR 12 0 739.993 201.338
6 Martiaz NIR 9 0 280.921 43.959
7 Noobslayerpro NIR 7 2 194.065 361.271
14 Underground Authority NIR 5 0 63.915 266.148
Oranges best:
17 MageWraith Orange 5 0 127.203 52.315
And before you say our recruits were closer to the other tribes that joined, that is simply not true either...
Of-course these stats include some they have taken since joining the respective tribes, but your recruits have also been able to noble Splat too now, it just appears they aren't as good at it...Also I thought you wanted to clean up the area? If we left it for Orange to do, we'd be waiting till Christmas 2013.
It was never just Orange and NIR...
Please re-look at the official war stats...
NIR's top 4 recruited noblers:
2 Somebody I Used To Know NIR 12 0 739.993 201.338
6 Martiaz NIR 9 0 280.921 43.959
7 Noobslayerpro NIR 7 2 194.065 361.271
14 Underground Authority NIR 5 0 63.915 266.148
Oranges best:
17 MageWraith Orange 5 0 127.203 52.315
And before you say our recruits were closer to the other tribes that joined, that is simply not true either...
Of-course these stats include some they have taken since joining the respective tribes, but your recruits have also been able to noble Splat too now, it just appears they aren't as good at it...Also I thought you wanted to clean up the area? If we left it for Orange to do, we'd be waiting till Christmas 2013.
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DeletedUser
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Your starting to sound like Chicken now.
DeletedUser
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After getting proved wrong, you have nothing to say.
DeletedUser
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You are claiming that ASE Dark and HI inactives are something you should count. lol.
2 retakes. Thats the sum total of their war effort. Good luck
