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I have never seen or even heard of anyone full of more it than you two ^
[/SPOIL]Mud slinging is the deteriation of the conversation. I have always said that Ram was going to be a hard fight, and i was persuaded to stay after the bd war. ( i was set to retire right then and there) However, you cannot expect me to agree or ignore all the glaring differences between our tribes. Its one thing to quietly do what your doing, (example is LoEN) but then its a whole nother thing to come to the pnp talking up a big game of how much damage you are gonna do, when your not doing it yourself..... I understand its tribalwars, but i wont tolerate some scrub of ram talking shit like he is noobaxes. (imo, noob, you have earned your right to talk smack)
Whereas the rest of them, Karmax included, have not. As i have stated before, Hugger tactics are a successful method of achieving Ram's particular goals. Just dont come here talking about how badly your gonna beat a tribe half your points/villages.. that is where i get particularly mean. Not to mention the fact that karmax clearly cannot carry on his end of a pnp debate.
Aubree and noobaxes have been the best representatives of Ram. Should keep the pnp for them...
There is the various methods that your neglecting. If your referring to BH, well the only merger of yours that could be compared to their tactics, was the merging of Pmp. You guys did fight them and eventually decided to merge.
Bh did the same thing, except bh recruited for contributing factors. not to nullify a front. Your intentions is what defines you and your tribe, noobaxes. and nothing you can say or blow into the air for a smoke screen can change that.
As for berns ignorant comments on BD war... Gimme a break. I would say the average phoenx player skill is not up to BD's par.. yet your pathetic catting operations have done not much to say the least. I have seen my tribe destroy all opposition as it proceeds, have been publicly supervised by the world.. and yet your gonna try to discredit us?
And if you keep implying we are doing nothing ingame, then you are the most ignorant leader of any tribe in w30.. Just like we dont have "tribal operations"... Wow, maybe you should take your own advice and pay attention to what is going on, instead of breaking out the champagne too early?
Ha!! This is public proof of just how awesome we truly are. Your best player wants to start a new world with us... Makes you wonder, eh?
@Pajuno:
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First Village ever nobled By Me after I restarted to be near mberns:
No Sleep!!! K97 NW 002 (720|912) K97 4,310 Abandoned KarmaX [STD!!] 2009-06-01 20:56:38
First Village ever nobled by Pajuno:
Phoenix Destiny 101 (502|667) K65 2,044 saulys [CIA] Pajuno [Phoenx] 2009-01-25 00:28:41
First Village ever nobled by Noobaxes:
RAM (772|702) K77 1,467 selcuk khan [A.T.A.] noobaxes [[FL]] 2009-01-26 03:44:57
Now you're trying to compare me with others? That is more than 4 months difference! I am a player from the rim. We defended against TWC when we were to small, which had a more difference than RAM Vs ~B~ now and still we were doing better and better everyday. Now I am the leader of RAM and still catching up to players who started a lot before me.
Now I'm fighting you in K-65 and my intentions were not to save the villages, you dodge so much so I was hoping to see ur troops disappear. You complained about only noobaxes sending 150ms noble trains from RAM, you got some from me too.
All you do is all talks. I am proud of myself. Being the duke and under pressure since i joined W30, I still manage to catch up so much. And yes, we will try our best to beat PHOENX either by outsmarting or making you bored.
Yes, I admit PHOENX have good players which are hard to break esp. you . But, we are not outsmarted. But we do have few trainees and new recruits who need better training and more experience but thats how we do things. We give chance for players to enjoy even if they are rookie, we try our best to train them and let them have fun of TW.
About hugging, we did outsmart you guys from the TWC and PMP times. You merged with NADs, we took some of the low point players and they are still kicking better than the big players you took.
KBC, PMP and CRY formed a coalition, both CRY and KBC left early and disbanded way before PMP, still i manage to hold the tribe with only few players against TWC and later due to the world situation and politics we decided to merge and you can still see that effect till now and RAM is still no1 after that and we have held the ranks now for a long time.
About the weight in my talks which you say I don't deserve it, I think i deserve it as much as you guys. I've worked very hard for it since WOR existed. I formed a puny tribe with mberns when i started in K-87 rim next to K-97. We destroyed the whole WOR family with just few rookie players with half of them who can hardly talk engish. Managed to pull PMP through lots of troubles and manage to secure the duke's place among TWC in which 90% of the players didn't like me at first as we were X-enemies. I still managed to gain all of their respects and made this tribe ranked 1.
Call us huggers? I guess thats only flaming and outta jealousy.
No tribe in this world has been in the same tribe since day1 they joined in W30.. Everyone has their own background to start with. Instead think about why all the players want to join RAM? You might say you reject applications, but we do too. I get mails everday. You might reject 5 and recruit 1, in comparision to us we might reject 10 and recruit 2-3 but its the same thing which all the tribe does. So, who was hugging? D2? We only have taken 3-4 players so far from them. Who's called hugging? DRIFT (old name PMP), I created that tribe with my blood and sweat and I don't want it gone but I utilize it as training ground. Yes, there are few players in DRIFt who deserves to be in RAM but they need activity to promote players.
Or is it just flaming and a political strategy to make RAM's members feel bad and the world to point fingers at us. Bring it on as our members don't care what you post as it is always crappy as ever. Let the world point fingers at us as it is only because we hold Rank.1 coz we outbest the world.
Or do you call it ODA that i lack? I've hit stacked villages since day 1. ODA doesn't prove the whole ability of a player. I can clear out barbs and still manage to get the ODA that I'm lacking but I just haven't got chance to do that either till now as I use my nukes where the stacks are.
Only you guys would think that your deeds demand respect to obtain your number one rank. Your methods are questionable, and yes.. you do hug. You fail to see the difference? How many enemy tribes do you have atm? ~B~ and Phoenx. What is your relationship with the rest of the world?
Noob has done nothing of the sort. Once again you think just because you open your pipe smoker and say something it's true...I am sure there is more tribes. Noobaxes has already stated the confirmation that Ram is a hugging tribe by describing your tactics perfectly.
name the last tribe that Phoenx napped to "nullify a front"... Oh yeah, the bd war when Shipley united the south in a nap vs BD, and an attempted coalition against Phoenx for when BD war ended... It was smart move to let us fight your battle for you... :icon_wink:
You speak of making ram number one as a difficult thing. You have conglomerated most of the south, cherry picked the fat accounts, even those over 60 days sittings, and you happen to have the highest player average by having the highest rate of sat, edible accounts!
You cannot compare that to what we have done, karma. I felt for you back in the day, when you were in pmp getting blasted.. but you have come away from your roots, and become corrupted by the shipley method... Shame on you...
I dont see how you can call it jealousy. You have NOTHING i want dude.. NOTHING, except your villages i will be taking shortly. It is a fact that Ram is a hugging tribe.. im sure if you wiki it, you can find the true definition..
I admit, we recruited from certain tribes. but it has never been remotely on the scale that Ram has.. and if you say so, then you are completely ignorant and living in a TW fantasy world even greater than the one most of us already exist in!
Dude, your justifying an academy as a non hugging tactic. Noob already confirmed Drift is there to nullify a front..I tend to believe his word 100% more than your own...
You have not proven you are the worlds best. BD was, Phoenx is now. Why do you ask? Cause we took that title from BD.. and now you are trying to take it from us. If you beat us, then you deserve your title imo. I just dont believe that will happen, so until then... Your overrated paper champ.
ODA doesnt prove skill. but when compared with the insane amount of ODD that my tribe has. ROFL. We have fewer than 30 members for the majority of time on this world, and we are second place with ODD, by a considerable margin> How can you discredit and say that isnt a testament to skill, when we have won all of our wars with that insane ODD?
Offense wins battles, Defense wins wars...
@ Paj
Same old story and all worthless lines. If you think I'm such a noob, why copy my nuke style? Are you in love with me? Love creates anger, hate, affection, and bunch of stuffs. Don't lie anymore and speak the fact. The real fact is RAM is still No.1 and we're speeding up everyday regardless of your puny war which I always say is like Flies(PHOENX) hitting on a human face(RAM) which is kinda nasty but nothing of real harm.
You may be the most uneducated mule of a person I've ever seen post here...
check the map Mr Intelligence... how many tribes share a border with us? How many enemies do we have?huh...that's interesting..
Noob has done nothing of the sort. Once again you think just because you open your pipe smoker and say something it's true...
Drift was created for a single purpose: Secure the RIM and make sure we don't have to fight small points guy with low morale and that we can go straight to the core.
huh? your twisted words make no sense. The truth is that BD was chomping your asses. RAM came in and seved your asses yet you claim victory...rofl
we're still the most active tribe on this world...I'm not sure where you get this nonsense from..lol
Paj...what you fail to realize is that Karma, Michael, and myself all sat down on skype when we were lowly 1k players and we made preperations for becoming the number one tribe. We made plans for conquering this world. Those plans have worked perfectly. Everything we do is calculated... and now we're adding another victory to our belt in the disbandment of B....
whatever....you're a walking hypocrisy... everything you say is hypocritical... "Well uh, I admit we recruited some players too...but you guys did it more and you're worse from it!!!"
Whatever dude, get a grip..
rofl, you big horse, nullify a front? You call the rim a front? That is what you just did isn't it? Big nub...
Drift was created for a single purpose: Secure the RIM and make sure we don't have to fight small points guy with low morale and that we can go straight to the core.
lol....if BD had that title...you can have it... BD was terrible...terrible...absolutely terrible. They were uncoordinated, un-loyal, and inactive. Yet they were the best? Paj..I'm sorry but you're just not very intelligent...
@ Paj
Same old story and all worthless lines. If you think I'm such a noob, why copy my nuke style?
Are you in love with me? Love creates anger, hate, affection, and bunch of stuffs. Don't lie anymore and speak the fact.
The real fact is RAM is still No.1 and we're speeding up everyday regardless of your puny war which I always say is like Flies(PHOENX) hitting on a human face(RAM) which is kinda nasty but nothing of real harm.
Shall you challenge me to prove you wrong?
Every step of the way.
if you would like, i am already friends with several TOP players.. i can recruit them to phoenx just for a few days to remove Ram as the number one tribe.,
Would this move gain us instant respect, (as ram expects for their mass recruitments?) or would we still fall short of your expectations?
originally posted by Pajuno:Wow, talk about delusional... Obviously, you werent in leadership when BD war was ongoing.. Your very leaders seemed to be shitting their proverbial pants about BD.. while giving Phoenx the respect it deserved for earning the ODD we did.
This made me laugh was it not you that went seeking for help from D2? How many front line villages did D2 end up supporting for you?
What point does this prove, except that you have gained your villages far easier than we have?
Is that your intention? we all know the purpose of hugging is to streamline your minting, as your not wasting nukes to gain villages. However, there is a large portion to be had from farming, as i know some of Ram does still farm. That cannot be neglected to mention...
But in case you didnt notice, free noblements is a way of saving troops, and increasing nobles.. Phoenx has always fought for its gains, and when we break people.. we eat them the same as anyone. But we do fight more than your guys do.. that is fact.
You havent been under pressure. When was the last time you were under pressure? Pmp days? those are months and months ago, dude.. stop thriving on former glories in the distant past, eh?
i dunno how much training you are truly doing. I have been seeing some pretty lame builds.. but again, i guess Phoenx nukes dont test as well against ram nukes via the simulator... :icon_rolleyes:
Just say the word Paj
I highly doubt it's a cameo appearance... :icon_wink: