~SOL~ declares war on Chaos

[akash595]

Yh Hiraya's added pressure Nukes and Brute force i geuss toppled the tables to much. However ~SOL~ did get a vast increase in cap showing some organisation possibly....

 

[Therin]

Yh Hiraya's added pressure Nukes and Brute force i geuss toppled the tables to much. However ~SOL~ did get a vast increase in cap showing some organisation possibly....

Those villages were stacked with 50k spear and 6/7k HC each before Hiraya declared. Myself, Hopalong, lamount and Lord J0ker had nearly all our defence in K52 villages. This support was more than capable of killing the nukes that SoL sent, however it had to be withdrawn due to the Hiraya declaration.

Edit: 50k spear etc is a little too much. They had 4 full D vills in each though, noble vills more.

 

[akash595]

Therin i know that one of the reasons you lost your villages and we didnt lose as many troops at the start we being Hiraya

 

[Therin]

Therin i know that one of the reasons you lost your villages and we didnt lose as many troops at the start we being Hiraya

Last time I checked I still had most of my villages ^^ Lost a few here and there, but nothing too substantial (yet!)

Edit: Most villages I had was 44 - I now have 36 around 82% of what I had.

 

[DeletedUser20525]

What Therin wrote is pretty accurate I think.

These are the differences from our side, and I think they are important ones.

1: We wanted Chaos to give us some level of diplomacy to prove that they really did want a merger. We suggested an alliance and it was refused. There was NO diplomacy between our tribes, just some kind words. This put our hackles up especially when Chaos said "No we wont give you an alliance" and then 1 day later attacked our Ally. Therin says we knew that they wanted to attack A.U. If we knew anything we knew they had given it some thought, we did NOT know the time, date etc. In fact Chaos attacked A.U 1 day after declining an alliance with us. It might not even have been 24 hours.

That left us with a tribe (A.U) that had done right by us on one side, and a tribe (Chaos) that seemed to be putting us off and just trying to forestall our attacking them on the other.

The change in the council was the addition of myself. I dont use Skype so I wasn't privy to everything here. Paris mailed me about a merger and the alliance until merger was actually my idea as it cemented the bond between the tribes. The declination of that merger and the way Obscene Clothing decided to jump through the NAP with A.U without following its terms caused us to wonder if perhaps we weren't just being played.

Then, without warning and 1 day later, We had 2 tribes gang bang Andzaze one of our members. and 2 days prior we had attacks on another member, forcing our D northwards. Again it seemed to us that the tribe that played ~SOL~ like an accordion had perhaps had their hands in the pot here. All this was very suspicious. We decided to take some precautions defensively.

You pulled us between a tribe that had been nothing but honorable, A.U, and yourselves and that was a mistake. Without a formal alliance with you our duty was to take you down in the name of our ally.

Then I tore up my hand, ripped my Achilles tendon, and had my sister in law break her neck...so I lost track of wtf was going on for quite some time. Theres 2-3 very fuzzy weeks right there.

Then you guys started to agressively expand into K41 which was a serious problem. You went so far as to tell someone "K41 is Chaos territory", which, if you were going to merge with us...made no sense to say. One of our members dropped out from this and you guys went so far as to suggest that he join Chaos, which made no sense if we were merging...final straw.

When we decided to attack you the whole plan was drawn up and executed in about 72 hours. From my understanding it took a while for us to decide to go ahead and do that as we wanted to believe you guys on the face of it. That breaking of the NAP with A.U was for us very key. It disproved anything said on Skype.

Web! and PNE were not parts of our plan. PNE did inform us that he wanted to/was going to attack you which was very nice of him. But that was just courtesy. Web! I think had been fighting Luxbock for weeks prior to that. We knew about them but I also know that theres a fly buzzing around my office right now.

Therin I will say this again publically...You do not have to go down fighting. We are taking in the majority of your K42 players and you are welcome to join them. However if you refuse then we will not allow your villages to go into other hands than those of [ally]Hiraya[/ally].

 

[Therin]

Only problem I have with that is I have nowhere to grow in K42 anymore and I'd always want to settle a couple of old scores. In the mean-time I'm looking for another account anywhere in the world either to co-play or to take over. If anyone wants a UK timezone co-player and has a reasonable sized account, message me :icon_biggrin:

Edit: and the publics really aren't the place to talk about that ^^

Edit 2:
[spoil]Attacker: drichhowell16
Village: 04. Legend (269|422) K42

Quantity: 0 0 6891 0 2598 0 229 230 1
Losses: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Defender: Therin
Village: Dirch fails again. Keep trying (257|430) K42

Quantity: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Haul: 9.943 10.130 16.855 36928/276750
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 7 to level 0
Damage by catapults: The Barracks has been damaged and downgraded from level25 to level13
Change of Loyalty Loyalty loss from 56 to 27[/spoil]
I love the way dirch cats villages he is trying so very hard to noble.

 

[DeletedUser]

Stealth, paris knew we were hitting A.U the day after he spoke with us

Oh and we hadn't heard anything from you for around a week before we nobled into k41

 

[slinkiestwizard]

Paris knew you were hitting A.U before you attacked

 

[DeletedUser]

Paris knew you were hitting A.U before you attacked

I know he did, I told him

And found you some reading material Stealth

[SPOIL][12/10/2009 10:17:29] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: explain please
[12/10/2009 10:18:04] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: and the point is nobling A.U brings each member who is stuck onto the k52 bourder ready to push south
[12/10/2009 10:18:24] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: The land date is tomorrow for the A.U attacks
[12/10/2009 10:18:31] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: we cannot just stop now
[12/10/2009 10:18:38] the.late.paris: arrgrgh
[12/10/2009 10:18:45] the.late.paris: you should have not told me that bro ;(
[12/10/2009 10:18:55] the.late.paris: you knew that A.U were our allied
[12/10/2009 10:18:58] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: i know
[12/10/2009 10:19:04] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: you have to tell them ect ect
[12/10/2009 10:19:22] the.late.paris: but we have supported some of their villages already
[12/10/2009 10:19:32] the.late.paris: because of the atacks from the south
[12/10/2009 10:19:40] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: i said i was going to be 100% upfront with you when you came online
[12/10/2009 10:19:46] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: its what im doing
[12/10/2009 10:21:39] the.late.paris: and so I am
[12/10/2009 10:22:05] the.late.paris: But you know my responsibilites as well
[12/10/2009 10:22:53] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: Do what you have to
[12/10/2009 10:23:08] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: I told Elle I would be honest with you
[12/10/2009 10:23:10] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: so I am
[12/10/2009 10:24:51] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: Why are you allies with them
[12/10/2009 10:24:57] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: what benifit do you get from it
[12/10/2009 10:25:04] the.late.paris: k24
[12/10/2009 10:25:18] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: But you could have said
[12/10/2009 10:25:24] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: you kill our k24 guys
[12/10/2009 10:25:30] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: and we kill your k42 guys
[12/10/2009 10:25:42] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: or an NAP
[12/10/2009 10:25:57] the.late.paris: we are far from their k42 guys and they are bordering with our k24
[12/10/2009 10:26:12] the.late.paris: and a possible merge as well in the future
[12/10/2009 10:26:20] the.late.paris: that was what slinkiest wizard think
[12/10/2009 10:26:46] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: Funny
[12/10/2009 10:26:54] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: he said something similar to us
[12/10/2009 10:27:35] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: I belive I suggeste the merge, just wanting to save my players asses and then leave and kill them later
[12/10/2009 10:27:40] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: and then he said NAP for now
[12/10/2009 10:27:56] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: then if we trust you Allies and maybe a merge later
[12/10/2009 10:28:15] the.late.paris: hmm
[12/10/2009 10:28:16] the.late.paris: similar
[12/10/2009 10:28:46] the.late.paris: but my thoughts was really to save k24 and not to merge with them
[12/10/2009 10:30:05] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: Well at the time it was just grab w.e diplomacy I could
[12/10/2009 10:30:11] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: to save our asses
[12/10/2009 10:31:36] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: hmm
[12/10/2009 10:31:46] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: he has attually asked chaos to merge since
[12/10/2009 10:31:53] the.late.paris: and so do we
[12/10/2009 10:32:12] the.late.paris: K24 is really a great team
[12/10/2009 10:32:35] the.late.paris: Its partially some of them are my friends and partially that they are really good
[12/10/2009 10:33:03] the.late.paris: if a merge will happen, i would not let k24 to be in danger as an old leader of Hiraya of course
[12/10/2009 10:33:29] the.late.paris: Im sure that is your position as well: The success of old Chais memebrs
[12/10/2009 10:33:45] the.late.paris: *Chaos
[12/10/2009 10:34:32] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: Yes
[12/10/2009 10:34:39] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: thats the problem
[12/10/2009 10:34:44] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: you need A.U alive
[12/10/2009 10:34:49] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: we need them dead
[12/10/2009 10:35:01] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: What if
[12/10/2009 10:35:06] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: we were to attack
[12/10/2009 10:35:13] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: then you join us after
[12/10/2009 10:35:19] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: / we join you
[12/10/2009 10:35:27] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: which ever way you look at it
[12/10/2009 10:35:42] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: So Hiraya played no part in the attacks
[12/10/2009 10:35:55] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: You can also use this time to stack the k24 players
[12/10/2009 10:36:00] the.late.paris: It will be good
[12/10/2009 10:36:08] the.late.paris: But they will consider you guys as enemy by that time
[12/10/2009 10:36:26] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: I will pull what faaaaark pulled with OCD
[12/10/2009 10:36:28] the.late.paris: and i think i can only halt the supports to be given and not to withdraw some of it from now
[12/10/2009 10:36:34] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: "new tribe new diplomacy"
[12/10/2009 10:37:01] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: You could withdraw it saying your planning a war on a tribe and need it to prestack
[12/10/2009 10:37:17] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: then call ~SoL~ noobs who A.U can rape
[12/10/2009 10:37:30] the.late.paris: it will look look really bad
[12/10/2009 10:37:45] the.late.paris: currently that is our reasoning so we have sent minimal amount of troops
[12/10/2009 10:37:50] the.late.paris: because that is the truth
[12/10/2009 10:38:06] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: what if
[12/10/2009 10:38:17] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: you attualy declare on a tribe
[12/10/2009 10:38:34] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: off the top of my head
[12/10/2009 10:38:38] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: SVU
[12/10/2009 10:38:41] the.late.paris: perhaps States
[12/10/2009 10:38:52] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: yeah states would be a good one too
[12/10/2009 10:39:08] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: Can you atleast not tell them about Chaos' plan to attack
[12/10/2009 10:39:18] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: if you can't withdraw support
[12/10/2009 10:39:20] the.late.paris: it will not be spoiled
[12/10/2009 10:39:26] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: win
[12/10/2009 10:39:34] the.late.paris: (y)
[12/10/2009 10:39:51] the.late.paris: we will be constantly atatcking States
[12/10/2009 10:40:05] the.late.paris: as you attack A.U and hope your plans goes well
[12/10/2009 10:40:08] the.late.paris: Im sure it will be
[12/10/2009 10:40:13] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: it will
[12/10/2009 10:40:30] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: ~SoL~ already cleared 2 of their members for us
[12/10/2009 10:40:50] the.late.paris: ~SL~ will be an easy opponent
[12/10/2009 10:40:56] the.late.paris: and blade runner as your spy there
[12/10/2009 10:41:09] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: and we have about 30 nukes and 10 trains ready to use on A.U
[12/10/2009 10:41:27] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: and yeah bladerunner forwarded us lots of scout reports on A.U
[12/10/2009 10:41:34] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: so we know whats in about 10 of the villages
[12/10/2009 10:41:50] the.late.paris: Okay. Taht will be good
[12/10/2009 10:41:59] the.late.paris: It will be really difficult to stop your operation
[12/10/2009 10:42:27] the.late.paris: I will tell in A.U that we will be having a full ops with States[/SPOIL]

 

[DeletedUser20525]

OK so 1 day before you attacked we knew. I will give you that. Its very close to what I said.

Therin I am going to send you an IGM.

 

[DeletedUser]

OK so 1 day before you attacked we knew. I will give you that. Its very close to what I said.

Therin I am going to send you an IGM.

I was pointing out the fact that Paris knew and said nothing, assuming we were planning on attacking Hiraya too but did nothingto prevent it and even withdrew support from A.U villages.

 

[DeletedUser20525]

Well I will let you know that thats a bit misleading as we were bleeding D up north and HAD to shift D to Andzaze and Drichhowell16. Maybe Paris coached it to you that way but the truth was we lost a fair bit of D up north.

We were doing it anyhow I had a large bit of D in those villas myself and can tell you I was already shifting to the north for "organic" reasons. IE shit was happening

I know this because Drich only kept a couple villas because I fired quite a bit of D into them and got in ahead of the train. I then pulled D from the south. I had covered a noble train against someone down there and pulled after it hit.

 

[slinkiestwizard]

actually we knew several days before as we had recieved mail from a player in Sol and 1 in PPE , it was to late to move support around as we were spread thin already. Had chaos big plans lol been mentioned things would have been different at this point they look like 1 big failure.

As for what paris knew about , we had spoken prior to that dated skype text and knew the attacks were coming, i blame it on myself really i should have been smart enough to have my members finish chaos when we had them on the ropes. Agreeing to the nap was my first mistake , my second was not nobling into that k.

 

[DeletedUser]

actually we knew several days before as we had recieved mail from a player in Sol and 1 in PPE , it was to late to move support around as we were spread thin already. Had chaos big plans lol been mentioned things would have been different at this point they look like 1 big failure.

As for what paris knew about , we had spoken prior to that dated skype text and knew the attacks were coming, i blame it on myself really i should have been smart enough to have my members finish chaos when we had them on the ropes. Agreeing to the nap was my first mistake , my second was not nobling into that k.

I can't see how you found out from ~SoL~ or ~PPe~ seen as how no one outside of Chaos knew, if you wish to talk about this more then giv me a shout on skype dude, it had it's own topic which died and this isn't the place to talk about it tbh.

 

[slinkiestwizard]

Actually its more than relevant as , its part of the reason for your tribes failure. As for nobody outside of Chaos knowing about it thats the biggest LOL as i think everyone knew. Im sure Paris can back me up on that.

 

[DeletedUser]

[spoil][12/10/2009 10:17:29] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: explain please
[12/10/2009 10:18:04] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: and the point is nobling A.U brings each member who is stuck onto the k52 bourder ready to push south
[12/10/2009 10:18:24] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: The land date is tomorrow for the A.U attacks
[12/10/2009 10:18:31] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: we cannot just stop now
[12/10/2009 10:18:38] the.late.paris: arrgrgh
[12/10/2009 10:18:45] the.late.paris: you should have not told me that bro ;(
[12/10/2009 10:18:55] the.late.paris: you knew that A.U were our allied
[12/10/2009 10:18:58] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: i know
[12/10/2009 10:19:04] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: you have to tell them ect ect
[12/10/2009 10:19:22] the.late.paris: but we have supported some of their villages already
[12/10/2009 10:19:32] the.late.paris: because of the atacks from the south
[12/10/2009 10:19:40] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: i said i was going to be 100% upfront with you when you came online
[12/10/2009 10:19:46] Ryan--Obscene Clothing: its what im doing
[12/10/2009 10:21:39] the.late.paris: and so I am[/spoil]

I cant be hypocrite with you. You approached me in a good way. And then you suddenly told me about that. My first approach with what you have said(Bolded Part in the Spoiler), is to be kind as well. That was a fast conversation. Im not cleaning hands or so.

As much as we wanted to help A.U, in which we have sent supports already. We are being attacked by AXES, SVU, LvL State5 and States on the same time.

Monijohn was being harassed by Jonathan. He can tell that we tried to save him.

[spoil]Monijohn: OD Defense Rank: 285 - 267,245[/spoil]

While Andzaze was left with nothing as SVU eat him.

[spoil]

K32 Andzaze II (286|336) K329,500andzaze [Hiraya]Jonathan1979 [AXES]2009-10-18 14:02:50

A8 Gaia (283|329) K329,665andzaze [Hiraya]ElePhAnTdOnGs [LvL]2009-10-17 10:01:26

Asparagus (277|330) K329,665andzaze [Hiraya]ElePhAnTdOnGs [LvL]2009-10-17 00:14:54

K32 Andzaze (278|345) K329,677andzaze [Hiraya]Jonathan1979 [AXES]2009-10-16 19:57:25

0009 Lota (237|380) K328,668andzaze [Hiraya]KetchupInYourTuna [Hiraya]2009-10-16 08:57:20

trokani 02 (276|339) K329,434andzaze [Hiraya]trokani [SVU]2009-10-15 20:46:12

012 Oh, yesterday (219|384) K324,520andzaze [Hiraya]aubbierunner [~UF~]2009-10-15 16:57:26

.S.V. (231|382) K329,665andzaze [Hiraya]SnowFlake626 [SVU]2009-10-15 15:31:35

F016 Tension (276|326) K325,552andzaze [Hiraya]Stillen123 [SVU]2009-10-15 08:30:05

Black Darkness (275|352) K329,673andzaze [Hiraya]dadiator [SVU]2009-10-14 16:16:06

Village 14 (268|344) K329,015andzaze [Hiraya]Kopite Rizla [SVU]2009-10-14 06:10:14

plofstro19 (266|347) K328,032andzaze plofstr [SVU]2009-10-13 17:05:37

B012 The Big Easy (243|370) K325,846andzaze Stillen123 [SVU]2009-10-13 15:00:05

[5]Ikebukuro (254|335) K329,153andzaze Kopite Rizla [SVU]2009-10-13 12:00:17 [/spoil]

And so is drichrowell16 got some issues with the whoel States.

[spoil]

13. Zeta (277|415) K429,809drichhowell16 [Hiraya]opae [States]2009-10-10 11:09:13

006. Fast Food i like! (280|422) K426,900drichhowell16 [Hiraya]mirath inas [States]2009-10-10 00:59:53 [/spoil]

But the change in the council with Stealthmechanic on it was the truth. And that made the issue of merging into a floating status because you dont want to have a true alliance first. You have said that it will hinder Chaos' playing style of aggressiveness. And you havent thought of Hiraya's playing style. And Im sure that will hinder a good teamwork also when a merge happened.

And so Chaos grows rapidly. The weighing of options has been an issue. Why would we go and merge with Chaos when we will lost K24 Team and with a lot of conditions on Hiraya's side? When A.U has been a good ally eversince. And so, the Two(2) weeks Noble Ban was lifted in K42 and nearby continent. We have arranged official and unofficial Diplomatic solutions with all the tribes surrounding us. But to be honest, most of these tribes, contacted me first. And as the Nobling Ban is in effect, that's a benefit for us. We wont attack you and you wont attack us. And so the rest happens.

 

[dalesmckay]

You were right, they weren't taken out in a week... it was a day. Thanks to great coordination from leadership, tribe mates, and allies. I hope actions like this can stop all of these doubts that ~SoL~ is deserving of its top spot in this world, and will be here for a long time to come.

Bah ha ha ha ha...
Don't try and ride Hiraya's coat tails on this.
~Sol~ is a FAIL tribe.

 

[DeletedUser]

Bah ha ha ha ha...
Don't try and ride Hiraya's coat tails on this.
~Sol~ is a FAIL tribe.

Learn how to read whats already out here... but nevertheless keep shut. You have little or nothing to add; whenever and wherever.

 

[slinkiestwizard]

oblomovo no flame intended just lol nobody needs to add anything to what you post =fail

 

[dalesmckay]

Learn how to read whats already out here... but nevertheless keep shut. You have little or nothing to add; whenever and wherever.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I was personally involved with assaults on your members.
Anything I have to say about ~Sol~ AND Chaos is completely relevant.