Could you show how MK is slandering? I have to say, I very much agree with what Ende has said. I think he displayed a nonbiased point of view in his message and it deserves recognition. Now, I do disagree with how much of an impact the merge will make. Offense and noble trains coming from K98 are going to be very easy to pinpoint and defend against. However, I think Ende really stepped it up a notch with this post.
I do want to clarify one thing. While I agree many people find it cool to bash on Dust/Sunny, that's not the only reason why C² were indifferent towards you guys. If we at C² had said "Yes, we're pairing up with Dust/Sunny to fight LSHRV," then it becomes a 2v1 war. Not that it wasn't anyway, since we were technically both fighting LSHRV at the same time, but turning it into a coordinated effort would reflect badly upon us. Other tribes, allies of LSHRV, might look at that and say "Hmm... 2v1 isn't very fair. We should attack one of LSHRV's attackers to balance the war. Since Dust/Sunny is completely encased in LSHRV, it would be inefficient to war them. Let's kill the Carnage instead!" Clearly, I'm exaggerating the dialogue, but the gist is clear. Vocally and publicly allying ourselves with Dust/Sunny players would have been bad for us. However, I believe that C²/Dust diplomacy does not need to be discussed in front of tribes who have no business hearing it (i.e. everybody but C² and Dust/Sunny).
Now we both know that the C² leadership was in contact with the Dust/Sunny leadership, and I've been informed that Dust/Sunny was told that any player who stood and fought against LSHRV would be respected by C². You say that many Dust/Sunny players were fearful of C² because we rarely praised them on the global forums, but why weren't our diplomatic messages shared with the rest of your tribe? It leads me to believe that a majority of Dust/Sunny players were unaware of your contact with C² diplomats and it frightens me that those players might have acted out of misinformation. I've explained why C² couldn't act overtly friendly on the global forums, but why couldn't Dust leadership share the friendly information with their tribemates? How many other secrets are you keeping from them?
how many times must it be said...geez. :icon_rolleyes:
If I were playing you in chess and I was constantly destroying you and then telling my friends how badly I destroyed you, within your earshot, you would be slightly offended by this after a while no...even if i meant nothing by it really, only to brag.
For one, most of C² seems ok with this and expects LSHRV to be ok with this...
however
1) this would be acceptable if we were all good friends, which we are not, and...well, no and, that's basically it. :icon_biggrin:
Yeah, if we were all buddy buddy, joshing each other would be ok. From my point of view, C² are the ones trying to be buddy buddy, with a few from our tribe being cordial.
There is nothing wrong with being cordial with someone you may not particularly care for, but for the ones you actually dont care for to continuously make a mockery of how badly we are doing, players such as myself become insulted, offended or whatever it is you want to describe it as.
We are not buddy buddy, we are not good friends...don't basically talk down about the tribe I am in and expect me (as well as others who aren't as vocal) to accept it.
Is that clear enough?
Not trying to be rude about it, but you guys who keep asking how are you being slanderous, etc. are under the assumption everybody is hunky dory with each other.
Not the case my man, not the case at all.
Not once have I received an in game mail from anyone in C² just asking how things are going...and you expect me to be ok with my tribemates and online friends losing their villages while you make fun of it?
YOU may not think you are making fun of the situation and the stats, but trust me...we on the losing side do not care much for them.
Doesn't mean you have to stop posting them, just means you should by now understand why some of us are irritated with the deal.
