I stopped taking your posts serious when i read that you think that ops "are a thing of the past". With many players in the double digit millions ops are actually more important than ever. Just ask Ls1 in DA if you need further explanation.
really? you really think that is an op?
I think one thing is clear, and that is that we have different meanings of what an op is. I dont call an op something where you have obiously gone: "look, theres a semi active target that is close to us, lets kill it!"
in
1 month of attacking youve only dropped Lis by 3mil points, and only two players have taken a notable amount of vills. Not that they were hard to take. The rest have just mopped up local targets.
So really, thats your idea of an op?
You appear to have much to learn about planning.
An op is something where all tribe members participate, there is a common landing time (or maybe launch time). And its designed to cripple the enemy in one hit and prohibit the spreading of support and create panic and fear. Your
op attacks on Lis acheived none of these.
Now just for your info Mr expert war planner, THIS is an op. :icon_wink:
Look at the conquer times, especially down the bottom.
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.34 (512|543) K55 9,333 tomtom69 [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:40:23
42-BeyCoAsT (521|519) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Wolverinee [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:31:01
AZRA (543|507) K55 9,517 Fichita [AZRA] *Huntress* [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:30:44
AZRA (532|489) K45 9,602 Fichita [AZRA] braatz7 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:29:14
B03.Noctambule (509|512) K55 10,035 z0mfg [Hate.] z0mfg [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:29:05
B03.Noctambule (509|512) K55 10,035 kalyce [AZRA] z0mfg [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:29:05
AZRA (557|509) K55 9,823 Fichita [AZRA] *Huntress* [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:27:14
.02 (544|516) K55 9,212 tomtom69 [AZRA] clx1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:26:05
AZRA!! (507|514) K55 9,970 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:24:29
AZRA (558|505) K55 9,463 Fichita [AZRA] RavnScream [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:21:41
AZRA x3 (559|527) K55 5,817 Fichita [AZRA] braatz7 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:21:15
.36 (537|519) K55 9,724 tomtom69 [AZRA] clx1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:19:02
0.03 AZRA (514|518) K55 9,913 Arnuxz [AZRA] crimson.angel [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:17:45
AZRA (554|506) K55 9,714 Fichita [AZRA] *Huntress* [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:17:15
AZRA (561|509) K55 9,461 Fichita [AZRA] *Huntress* [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:16:12
AZRA x2 (538|507) K55 9,019 Fichita [AZRA] wordup96 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:15:28
43-BeyCoAsT (523|520) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] King ZOE [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:13:39
AZRA x2 (559|502) K55 5,894 Fichita [AZRA] RavnScream [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:13:31
65-BeyCoAsT (515|521) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Wolverinee [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:13:19
A2.Enk1l (531|549) K55 7,658 kalyce [AZRA] xyziz [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:13:17
54-BeyCoAsT (514|535) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Piqnicata [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:13:16
AZRA (500|505) K55 9,846 tomtom69 [AZRA] Jeckyl N Hyde [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:12:56
AZRA (540|503) K55 9,746 Fichita [AZRA] hibby989 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:12:42
K55-ANTALYA (526|542) K55 9,717 tomtom69 [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:12:03
.42 (556|543) K55 8,646 tomtom69 [AZRA] evaric [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:58
AZRA (537|503) K55 9,951 Fichita [AZRA] loxxxor [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:54
AZRA (508|506) K55 9,863 tomtom69 [AZRA] Jeckyl N Hyde [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:42
AZRA!! (503|504) K55 10,100 tomtom69 [AZRA] Jeckyl N Hyde [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:34
0.01 AZRA (515|519) K55 10,477 Arnuxz [AZRA] crimson.angel [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:32
3.5 AZRA (519|522) K55 12,379 Arnuxz [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:31
75-BeyCoAsT (533|515) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] oP)DeLiRiuM [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:26
AZRA (547|502) K55 9,659 Fichita [AZRA] kamorlinga [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:26
AZRA (499|551) K54 9,921 tomtom69 [AZRA] Whisper34 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:25
B07.R3@P3Rs (515|516) K55 9,348 kalyce [AZRA] syklov [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:17
76-BeyCoAsT (534|521) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] oP)DeLiRiuM [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:15
AZRA (566|527) K55 9,947 tomtom69 [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:12
62-BeyCoAsT (510|537) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Blueball [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:12
Western City 07 (558|512) K55 9,290 tomtom69 [AZRA] Scorponok [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:12
AZRA x2 (553|508) K55 8,939 Fichita [AZRA] Scorponok [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:12
74-BeyCoAsT (532|509) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] oP)DeLiRiuM [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (560|501) K55 9,877 Fichita [AZRA] RavnScream [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
[004] Hades (555|543) K55 9,741 tomtom69 [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
goodjob (542|575) K55 9,759 tomtom69 [AZRA] bearokuda [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (546|503) K55 9,828 Fichita [AZRA] kamorlinga [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
B- Inv Me (505|516) K55 10,113 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
49-BeyCoAsT (521|533) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Harlos [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
71-BeyCoAsT (528|521) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] rozanzibar [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
3.8 AZRA (529|540) K55 10,477 Arnuxz [AZRA] Burley Muskox [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
3.1 AZRA (527|515) K55 10,244 Arnuxz [AZRA] Burley Muskox [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA!! (501|506) K55 9,623 tomtom69 [AZRA] Jeckyl N Hyde [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
BA2.Ninn@ (526|541) K55 4,326 kalyce [AZRA] Night Terror [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
.35 (531|534) K55 9,745 tomtom69 [AZRA] rickyson1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (548|508) K55 10,039 Fichita [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
.33 (547|545) K55 9,941 tomtom69 [AZRA] evaric [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
61-BeyCoAsT (516|530) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Piqnicata [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
41-BeyCoAsT (521|523) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Piqnicata [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
40-BeyCoAsT (521|522) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Piqnicata [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (553|504) K55 9,944 Fichita [AZRA] AreYouKidden [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (531|541) K55 8,948 tomtom69 [AZRA] rickyson1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (546|508) K55 10,162 Fichita [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (537|494) K45 9,436 Fichita [AZRA] braatz7 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (539|502) K55 9,715 Fichita [AZRA] hibby989 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
B09.Pr@gu3 (509|509) K55 10,131 kalyce [AZRA] z0mfg [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
72-BeyCoAsT (528|524) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] rozanzibar [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (510|505) K55 9,410 tomtom69 [AZRA] Whisper34 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
59-BeyCoAsT (513|533) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Blueball [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (532|542) K55 10,361 tomtom69 [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (549|511) K55 9,939 Fichita [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
51-BeyCoAsT (514|538) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Piqnicata [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
63-BeyCoAsT (523|534) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Harlos [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
27-BeyCoAsT (527|533) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Sir Majed [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
.37 (543|519) K55 8,392 tomtom69 [AZRA] Celtic Mist [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (528|541) K55 9,905 tomtom69 [AZRA] rickyson1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA!! (497|504) K54 10,145 tomtom69 [AZRA] Whisper34 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
.40 (543|520) K55 9,936 tomtom69 [AZRA] Celtic Mist [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
2.5 AZRA (551|475) K45 10,098 Arnuxz [AZRA] RavnScream [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA!! (506|517) K55 10,036 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (538|505) K55 9,956 Fichita [AZRA] loxxxor [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (559|501) K55 9,889 Fichita [AZRA] RavnScream [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
Western City 01 (560|507) K55 8,802 PocaPoca [AZRA] AreYouKidden [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (552|503) K55 9,949 Fichita [AZRA] AreYouKidden [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:06
AZRA (563|500) K55 9,706 Fichita [AZRA] braatz7 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
.20 (535|529) K55 8,458 tomtom69 [AZRA] rickyson1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
44-BeyCoAsT (524|521) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Wolverinee [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
BA1.Dr@kUl (527|543) K55 4,762 kalyce [AZRA] Night Terror [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
3.9 AZRA (534|529) K55 9,981 Arnuxz [AZRA] Burley Muskox [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
AZRA (507|506) K55 10,135 tomtom69 [AZRA] Jeckyl N Hyde [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
Western City 03 (562|503) K55 8,802 PocaPoca [AZRA] AreYouKidden [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
AZRA (564|530) K55 9,920 tomtom69 [AZRA] joepfeifer [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
68-BeyCoAsT (519|543) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Piqnicata [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
64-BeyCoAsT (521|529) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Harlos [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
AZRA (546|502) K55 9,939 Fichita [AZRA] kamorlinga [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
AZRA (551|503) K55 9,792 Fichita [AZRA] AreYouKidden [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
Western City 04 (557|502) K55 8,796 PocaPoca [AZRA] RavnScream [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
56-BeyCoAsT (523|533) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Harlos [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
57-BeyCoAsT (515|536) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
AZRA (527|524) K55 10,105 tomtom69 [AZRA] rickyson1 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
AZRA (500|501) K55 9,322 tomtom69 [AZRA] Whisper34 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
73-BeyCoAsT (529|521) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] rozanzibar [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:05
A1.Ak@sh@ (532|550) K55 9,971 kalyce [AZRA] xyziz [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
Woo City 03 (559|491) K45 8,802 PocaPoca [AZRA] kamorlinga [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (538|501) K55 9,533 Fichita [AZRA] loxxxor [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
A3.L3st@t (532|551) K55 9,462 kalyce [AZRA] xyziz [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA!! (504|512) K55 9,899 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
55-BeyCoAsT (514|532) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
69-BeyCoAsT (527|534) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Sir Majed [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (513|530) K55 10,394 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
A4.Armand (530|550) K55 3,028 kalyce [AZRA] Night Terror [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
67-BeyCoAsT (516|535) K55 10,753 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (505|517) K55 8,964 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
48-BeyCoAsT (516|536) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
58-BeyCoAsT (507|537) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] wordup96 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA!! (511|501) K55 9,143 tomtom69 [AZRA] Whisper34 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (547|510) K55 10,016 Fichita [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (545|509) K55 9,726 Fichita [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
Western City 02 (560|506) K55 8,802 PocaPoca [AZRA] AreYouKidden [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (483|544) K54 9,921 tomtom69 [AZRA] Whisper34 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
.24 (548|523) K55 9,023 mezcalito [AZRA] kamorlinga [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
B.hi (515|514) K55 10,115 tomtom69 [AZRA] BloodyTroll [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA!! (514|511) K55 9,913 tomtom69 [AZRA] tomng777 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (542|505) K55 9,821 Fichita [AZRA] wordup96 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
B04.Wistler (510|513) K55 10,385 kalyce [AZRA] z0mfg [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
47-BeyCoAsT (516|532) K55 10,861 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (519|518) K55 10,348 tomtom69 [AZRA] BloodyTroll [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA!! (550|552) K55 10,022 tomtom69 [AZRA] evaric [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA!! (510|512) K55 9,612 tomtom69 [AZRA] BloodyTroll [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
46-BeyCoAsT (517|533) K55 10,639 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (540|507) K55 10,043 Fichita [AZRA] wordup96 [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (516|514) K55 9,455 tomtom69 [AZRA] BloodyTroll [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
.43 (542|518) K55 9,414 tomtom69 [AZRA] Celtic Mist [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (547|509) K55 10,083 Fichita [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
AZRA (511|503) K55 9,722 tomtom69 [AZRA] BloodyTroll [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
Woo City 04 (559|488) K45 8,925 PocaPoca [AZRA] kamorlinga [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:11:00
village222 (542|517) K55 11,683 tomtom69 [AZRA] Celtic Mist [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:59
0.05 AZRA (547|515) K55 10,080 Arnuxz [AZRA] Neverwas [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:59
AZRA!! (511|508) K55 10,005 tomtom69 [AZRA] BloodyTroll [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:59
AZRA (543|504) K55 9,975 Fichita [AZRA] *Huntress* [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:58
.41 (543|518) K55 9,513 tomtom69 [AZRA] Celtic Mist [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:58
66-BeyCoAsT (516|534) K55 10,753 HokKabaZz [AZRA] Beautiful-Storm [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:35
AZRA!! (542|553) K55 9,687 tomtom69 [AZRA] bearokuda [Hate.] 26th May 2009 - 05:10:03[/spoil]
now, try and tell me again when the last semi decent op in W15 was. Cause tbh I think it was when Evil/NL launched on some Axes northern players. It had the results of what I mentioned above