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I was the best leader, imo.
I was going *to* say that Rukoh.
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I hate to derail and belabour this point but I have studied language all my life and these sorts of things bother and fascinate me at the same time. Just because a bunch of people misinterpret a phrase does not mean that their misinterpretation is valid. People misuse the phrase "beg the question" all the time. How about "I could care less"? I hear that daily and people actually mean the exact opposite. Or my new favourite, anyone who uses the word "literally" as a synonym for "actually". These are not regional differences. These are people spouting catchphrases without understanding the meaning of the words.
I have spent the last 20 minutes researching this and nowhere can I find an instance of "roll with the punches" being used in the manner you guys think. I would in fact argue that the phrase implies the exact opposite of what you say. IE you absorb the blows (literal or figurative) without dishing out anything in return. Especially when applied figuratively. If I've had a run of bad luck because my boss is a jerk, my dog died and my wife left me for another man, one could say I'm 'rolling with the punches' by staying positive and trying to make the best of a bad situation. Punching my boss in the face or slashing my wife's tires isn't 'rolling with the punches'. It's revenge. I think there is an implicit pacifism inherent in the phrase.
Perhaps the confusion arises in the fact that in the case of TW, making the best of a bad situation could involve actually hitting the attack button when someone else is attacking you. But the underlying principle isn't that you are attacking back, it's that you are dealing with adversity in a positive way. It just so happens that in the case of TW that may involve an actual counterattack.
From the OED:
"f. to roll with the punches (and varr.), of a boxer: to move the body away from the opponent's blows in order to lessen their impact; fig., to adapt oneself to difficult circumstances, take troubles in one's stride. [early citations:]
[1941 F. GILMORE Push Yourself iv. 27 In boxing it is called 'rolling the punch' when a boxer, not having time to avoid being hit, deliberately moves with the punch when it hits him.] 1951 J. J. WALSH Boxing Simplified viii. 32 In an actual bout he will not have so much time to roll with the blow."
In case you couldn't tell I love grammar and linguistics. Feel free to ignore this and carry on with your arguing if you do not share my passion
Stop by Seattle sometime. That's the main use of the phrase 'round heah.
For example, a chip in the UK is a french fry in the US. Regional interpretation. It's true, it's not a phrase, but it's about the same purpose.
I find it humorous that you compare the OM leaders to dictators, and in the same breath you talk about how Manic had that leadership. If any leader on W24 was a dictator, it was Smurf-.
To each their own.
I was going say that Rukoh.
If your want to quote something STD at least know the correct meaning.
If you studied language so much you would be aware of the actual use, and yes it does make sense.
Can we please now put this trivial matter to rest? :icon_neutral:
I hate when people say that with all my little brain... but in North America, it's a common figment of speech.There is no logical progression from "I couldn't care less" to "I could care less".
#5, KK (NUB!)
Eventhough KK and me disliked eachother at start, we valued eachother aswell, or atleast i did, he did great, and knew exactly what to do in what situation (that was when i was still here, havent followed this world for nearly a year)
Everyone one of these leaders i would be honoured to fight under at any time, i underestimated some of them, and payed the price for it.
Good luck to everyone that still plays!
Wow......where do you see where I said Manic had that leadership? I mentioned that at one time they worked well together....but that was it.
As far as Smurf...I never mentioned him. I was commenting on Stachehater. However, now that you bring Smurf into the picturre....yes, he was a dictator also. But, if you look back at my post...you'll not see me mentioning him as a leader.:icon_neutral:
Even my first and last name are nothing but mis-spellings of French words. >.>;
I just find it amusing you can seriously write something bad about another leader, because you feel he's a dictator, and in the same post say something good about the Manic leadership and Smurf-. I agree Manic had their moments, but that was because Manic had KG/Deb to make up for Smurf-'s. Just amusing, is all :icon_biggrin:
Wow! This threw me a bit was it from chaussettes mortsde ? I decided not, so I thought some more and realised "de de soc" translates as "of the ploughshare" more or less, so dedesoc must have been the compressed version, then being bastardised into deadsock? So finally TW has turned ploughshares into swords?
and to stay on topic I'd give Gzed all top 5 leader places..:icon_biggrin: