DeletedUser
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Wow - if that's the case, then Shipley would have been banned years ago, since he knew about 20 psw, from what I recall.
Wow - if that's the case, then Shipley would have been banned years ago, since he knew about 20 psw, from what I recall.
DeletedUser
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Rules say u are not alowed to know them in game.
They dont care how many u know outside their jurisdiction/servers that can be tracked down and proved to themselfs with their own tools.
They dont care how many u know outside their jurisdiction/servers that can be tracked down and proved to themselfs with their own tools.
MR.MR
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people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones mcnally... have you forgotten that you spent several months playing mrsoxs in w46 and irock in 30 while mrsoxs was played by your friend in w30?
KarmaX
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I find it so funny how you all are trying to accuse me.
1. Your accusation is not working. We RAM only care of what RAM thinks and your accusations are just in vain.
2. DK ops was long done b4 even Naked got into the account. It was started since we first starting faking paj and other targets every 2 days, and then we had launched massive nukes on DK prior of him being banned and have hit tons of stacked villages and defenses. We have proof of that. If we had planned on hijacking the account, we wouldn't have wasted the nukes prior to it and used it on other targets.
3. Putting Naked on DK is solely PHOENX, as individual Paj's fault.
a. He tried to poach our member (shows how desperate PHOENX are).
b. He gave the password meaning he is the one that was multi accounting. :icon_biggrin:
(and don't bring cshipley's stuff here again kids. He is long gone. If you talk about honor, talk when people are there, not behind their backs. Also, you have no valid proof for your arguments so you all are just going in circles. )
1. Your accusation is not working. We RAM only care of what RAM thinks and your accusations are just in vain.
2. DK ops was long done b4 even Naked got into the account. It was started since we first starting faking paj and other targets every 2 days, and then we had launched massive nukes on DK prior of him being banned and have hit tons of stacked villages and defenses. We have proof of that. If we had planned on hijacking the account, we wouldn't have wasted the nukes prior to it and used it on other targets.
3. Putting Naked on DK is solely PHOENX, as individual Paj's fault.
a. He tried to poach our member (shows how desperate PHOENX are).
b. He gave the password meaning he is the one that was multi accounting. :icon_biggrin:
(and don't bring cshipley's stuff here again kids. He is long gone. If you talk about honor, talk when people are there, not behind their backs. Also, you have no valid proof for your arguments so you all are just going in circles. )
DeletedUser
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From what I know, Paj wasn't "poaching" a RAM player. That player came to Phoenx asking to play with us.
And trust me - I have proof of Shipley having multiple passwords, but I can't control when he decides to drop in. For all we know he is still playing somewhere, and just not posting on PnP.
Try as you might, KarmaX - you can't wash the stain of TWC off RAM - name change or no. And what BobbyNaked just did goes to show that the more things change, the more they stay the same ...
DeletedUser79042
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Also known as a no-win scenario or ... "Catch 22" Cy :icon_wink:
Seems to me RAM follows it to the last detail :icon_rolleyes:
I did hope for some positive evolution in RAM's "policies" the past days, as I have been monitoring these argument, but I think I am wrong...
Unless... :icon_cool:
robot out :xmas smile:
DeletedUser
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*sniffles and cries....Ram cheated! They're just a bunch of lousy cheaters! Even though they play by the rules it still cheating...I know, I know, when they were caught cheating they were punished..but they're still cheaters!
Whatever CyPres, focus more on defending more than crying, and your little tribe will last a day or two longer.
@Noob....you talking about class is pretty laughable...
Whatever CyPres, focus more on defending more than crying, and your little tribe will last a day or two longer.
@Noob....you talking about class is pretty laughable...
DeletedUser
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I don't think I was crying, Berns.
Phoenx seems to be doing fairly well. It's been what, three months? Longer? And RAM has barely made a dent? Maybe you should stop squabbling over noble claims and get to attacking ... just a thought.
Phoenx seems to be doing fairly well. It's been what, three months? Longer? And RAM has barely made a dent? Maybe you should stop squabbling over noble claims and get to attacking ... just a thought.
DeletedUser71844
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Phoenx, just concentrate on losing that rank #4. It's brought nothing but bad luck to the previous tribes that held that rank... Green... DN... MF.
Rank 4 has proven to be unlucky on this world. :icon_razz: Let's see if you prove that you are the exception yet again.
Rank 4 has proven to be unlucky on this world. :icon_razz: Let's see if you prove that you are the exception yet again.
DeletedUser
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You are not being accused, I just say there are many "coincidences" and that you obviously knew Bobbynaked had the account before sending an op there. I think Bobbynaked went to paj, not the other way around so it's not poaching. Multiaccounting is an irrelevant and moot point to make (How many guys from w14 you brought in T-W-C accounts?). Is it the same kind of "I wasn't involved" than with Ozzyfudd account?
Indeed, RAM only care about what RAM thinks or more you only care about what you think. The honour can go out the door, whatever it takes to win, you'll do it and pretend to be an offended virgin.
@mberns You have already made yourself a fool inside RAM, at least try not to showcase it to the whole planet. You are an embarrasment to RAM and have always been.
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DeletedUser
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Not true. I read your forums Cy. People were joking about making sure he has a bunch of noblemen when he returns. You were planning to take advantage of the situation.
Cy-Pres said:
Yeah, your wrong. I never asked for an account in Phoenx. Though, obviously, after I was offered one I jumped through the necessary hoops to get one.
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Cy-Pres said:
Well, what a funny coincidence Cy! I have proof of Paj having multiple PWs as well!
[spoil]
And, another skype chat about me sending all the troops to some distant K. I guess my threats changed over time. It started with k5. Then k9, I guess. But they ultimately ended up in K8.
[spoil]
DeletedUser
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That's very different than jumping on him while he isn't there, no???? :icon_eek:
That is what RAM would have done just like they jumped on an account that had no troops and was controlled by a RAM player...
DeletedUser
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No. I don't see the difference whatsoever. Jumping on him while he isn't here vs. taking advantage of his absence. Is there something I missed?
I have no problem with them attacking Varden despite his recent loss, but what I do have a problem with is Phoenx's attempts to act like they weren't gonna attack Varden. They know what they were planning to do when he was gone.
These two events are very dissimilar noob.
DeletedUser
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*claps* thanks Noob, you're opinion's valuable as you've been a shaper of this world and a major contributor all around.
This finally shows what RAM has known for a long time. Phoenx' activity is down, they're starting to actually show it externally..
This finally shows what RAM has known for a long time. Phoenx' activity is down, they're starting to actually show it externally..
DeletedUser
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My opinion might not matter mouch to you but it,s actually similar to most RAM members so... I don't mind. :icon_rolleyes:
You are not much of a contributor yourself.
You are not much of a contributor yourself.
DeletedUser
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Sigh... They were not going to noble him while he isn't there and wait till he comes back. (There can still be someone sitting while he is away, so he can prep as well, no?)
They are not dissimilar, they just show the real character of RAM. In this world, there has been a lot of times where respect was shown towards enemies. We can look back Tardis vs. BD and the disbandment event. We can also remember when members of BD-THE and others cleared barbs of banned T-W-C players.
However, there had to be that big self sufficient, honourless, disrespectful rotten fat tribe out there. A tribe that got the password of Ozzyfudd and planned an op on him to get easy villages. A tribe that had a member pretending to hate Karmax and to be quiting to get an account from Phoenx to organize an op on that account.
A tribe that pretends to be the best in the world wouldn't need such despised tactics. Anyone would think that a tribe that does not condone such actions would at least condemn it. Yet, all we see is RAM members laughing and happily defending such actions.
If Karmax didn't agree with what happened, he should have condemned it publicly, apologized and fix the problem. Yet' I'm sure I will die before I see it happen. For RAM, it's win at all cost even of losing all respect and honour from fellow TW community(so little remains).
That's what a true honourable leader would do right now.
DeletedUser
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@ Nooby
[spoil]
'Hi-jacking' (Which is Paj's fault. If you offer the enemy an account, don't be surprised when you get burned) is not the same as attacking the account of a player who is not around atm. I don't know what BD/THE/T-W-C have to do with DK & Varden.
You've made several baseless accusations against RAM. There was an op on DK, which was unrelated to my access of the DK account. However, once RAM discovered that DK's troops were all gone they took advantage. Honestly, Phoenx knew about the 'hi-jacking' before RAM did. Were they attacking the account for months before this event? Yes.
Several RAM players have expressed their disgust with the situation. It was not a tribal endeavor. It was my own doing. I find it funny you disregard some of the Skype chats I've posted, but then use some of them to support your claims. I acted on my own accord.
Well, that is your opinion. You are entitled to it, I personally disagree.[/spoil]
You are welcome to speculate all you want, but I've been nothing but honest about this whole thing. You want a timeline?
[spoil]1)Pajgina gives me the PW
2)I legitimately play the account for a day or so to decrease the level of scrutiny directed at me.
3)I send 95% of the troops to K8.
4)I post my admission in the Phoenx forums.
5)I tell a few players to noble DK villages and not to worry about nukes, noble escorts, etc.
6)I empty villages with nobles headed at them.
7)Phoenx gets the new PW and takes the account back.[/spoil]
That is exactly how it happened. The only discussion I had before this with Karma is already copy/pasted in the forums. I actually went against my duke's wished by doing this.
[spoil]
Oh yes, you would know much more about what's written in the Phoenx forums than a person who actually read it. :icon_rolleyes: You have no ground to stand on here as I actually read what they said in the Phoenx/LoEN shared forums. All you have is baseless speculation, which in this instance, is entirely without truth.
Do you remember typing this? Perhaps you should heed your own advice and not throw out completely unsupported claims.noobaxes said:
noobaxes said:
'Hi-jacking' (Which is Paj's fault. If you offer the enemy an account, don't be surprised when you get burned) is not the same as attacking the account of a player who is not around atm. I don't know what BD/THE/T-W-C have to do with DK & Varden.
You've made several baseless accusations against RAM. There was an op on DK, which was unrelated to my access of the DK account. However, once RAM discovered that DK's troops were all gone they took advantage. Honestly, Phoenx knew about the 'hi-jacking' before RAM did. Were they attacking the account for months before this event? Yes.
Noobaxes said:
Several RAM players have expressed their disgust with the situation. It was not a tribal endeavor. It was my own doing. I find it funny you disregard some of the Skype chats I've posted, but then use some of them to support your claims. I acted on my own accord.
noobaxes said:
Well, that is your opinion. You are entitled to it, I personally disagree.[/spoil]
You are welcome to speculate all you want, but I've been nothing but honest about this whole thing. You want a timeline?
[spoil]1)Pajgina gives me the PW
2)I legitimately play the account for a day or so to decrease the level of scrutiny directed at me.
3)I send 95% of the troops to K8.
4)I post my admission in the Phoenx forums.
5)I tell a few players to noble DK villages and not to worry about nukes, noble escorts, etc.
6)I empty villages with nobles headed at them.
7)Phoenx gets the new PW and takes the account back.[/spoil]
That is exactly how it happened. The only discussion I had before this with Karma is already copy/pasted in the forums. I actually went against my duke's wished by doing this.
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MR.MR
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The only person who said anything about making sure there were noblemen when he retunred was from LoEN. It was not written once in our forums that we were giving him a break, purely discussed on skype.
If you are going to go through a tribe's forums to try and make them out to be back-stabbing, father-hating, liars, you would think you might, at a minimum, come out with one out-of-context screenshot to back your point up? Shouldn't have been hard to take 1 print screen, after all, there were a grand total of 4 posts that even pertained to Varden being gone in the entire forum, and all are in one thread... Or is it because there is, in fact, nothing that even remotely backs up the libel that you are spewing here?
Post some proof; after all, you are the accuser. That is, if you are remotely correct and a bigger if there is even a shred of proof?
Until then,
GG
DeletedUser
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There was absolutely nothing of value on the Phoenx forums or else I may have screen shotted it.
Unfortunately, I did not envision this argument coming up, or I would have done so.
Well, now there is. :lol:
Unfortunately, I did not envision this argument coming up, or I would have done so.
asalamalakum said:
Well, now there is. :lol:
DeletedUser
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I read what you write and you said yourself that they are planning to noble him when he returns. Those are your own worlds so I trust them.... You should be careful what words you use if it's not what you meant.
There was close to 10 accounts banned at the same time in T-W-C.
You can have acted on your own accord, that doesn't change the fact that RAM still benefited from a dishonourable action and are just blocking their noses hoping that the smell will go away. However, you're own out of context part of conversations can mean many things. When I see the convo to Karmax where you say that you will do it and he tells you not to, we can certainly wonder if others knew or not, asked you to do it or not. Am i to trust your word and edits of conversations blindly? No.
I'll never trust your post or anything you say anyway (because it can be easily manipulated to make it mean whatever you want to). However, I find it funny that you said you mailed some members to send nobles without nukes and then claim RAM has nothing to do with the whole thing, as if they would have sent nobles without nukes at an opponent that held up fairly well for months ... Seems contradictory to me. I don't think I need any other evidence than reading your own stuff. Keep posting please, you inform us very well. You may want to wear it on your own, but facts remain that there are other people involved.
I will agree that it was not a good decision to give you the account and that they paid the price.
The fact still remains that Karmax, Mberns and others condones your actions because they don't condemn it publicly nor offer apologies or anything to fix it. Everyone can have their own conclusions, but I don't view it as a good leadership demonstration by RAM, once again.
If RAM leaders don't condemn it publicly and don't fix it, it's because they are totally fine with your actions and the benefits it gave them (which is all that matters to them anyway). It's easy to close your eyes and say you didn't do nothing, it's him. Reality is much different.
A member of a tribe's actions reflect on all the other members of the same tribe, including foremost, its leaders. If you can't even control what is happening in your own tribe, you shouldn't even call yourself a leader.
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