Answers to Nobleman Questions.

DeletedUser

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OK, as i am getting so many msgs about how a nobleman works etc and it appears no one wants to read the other threads i am going to write this post out and send people who keep asking me to here.


Ok.

Things to remember about a nobleman.

You need a level 20 Smithy. This is an absolute pain in the ass to get. With a level 20 HQ it takes like 18 hours to build a level 19 and 20 hours to build a level 20 Smithy. So plan accordingly (make sure you have farms and warehouse space).

The academy takes about 8 hours to build.

Your nobleman then takes another 3 hours to build.

Ok, now to the main point of most people's questions - How you take over another persons village.

You must send the nobleman to attacl another persons village. This village could be any size village (50 pointer or 2000 points or higher, it makes no difference).

Now, some very important things to consider.

Make sure you know the defence power of the village your trying to take out.

I sent my nobleman with a massive escort as i wanted no surprises of people sending support troops etc.

The last thing you want is your nobleman to die. And this is for every attack you make with him ("every attack you make i hear you cry".

Yes thats right, you will be making anywhere from 3-7 attacks depending on the distance of the village from you.

A nobleman moves at 35 mins per field (the slowest unit). So every field the village your attacking is away from you the harder and longer it will be to take over.

The village i took was 3 hours 50 mins (4 hours for arguments sake).

Thats 4 hours there and 4 hours back home again, making it a round trip of 8 hours.

This is important for several reasons.

You basicly attack the village. If your successful you will decrease the loyalty of that village between 20 and 35%. This seemed completely random and different sized armies made no effect (i.e. a bigger army never gave me a bigger increase).

So if you were unlucky and only took it down 20%, you would be looking at 5 runs. Which of course is 5 x 8 hours.

Now whats worse is, the enemy village regains loyalty at a rate of 1% per hour. So for every attack you make, you might as well minus 8% of your attack, as the time you get back to the village they would have regained that much.

So of course this means you are likely to add even more time via attacks to take over the village.

So as you can see, its NOT an easy and straightfoward process.

Now if your attacking a village in a big clan, they would have plenty of time to send huge amounts of support to defend against you taking over.

If at any time you were to lose your nobleman in the attack (even on the last attack) you would have to start the entire process again.

So be VERY careful on who you pick to take out. This really limites the options available to most people.

I would reccomend you dont try and take out a village that is more than 4-5 fields away.

I cant think of any other questions i've been asked, but if anyone has any, post them here and i will do my best to reply to them.
 

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I would like clarification for one detail. Assume for a moment that I have two villages, A and B, both of which have an Academy at level 1. Village A's first Nobleman was used to take over village B, and village B has not created a Nobleman yet. It has already been established that you may create one Nobleman per Academy level (ignoring those killed in battle). Does this mean that village A can create a second Nobleman by virtue of village B's Academy, or does village B have to create the Noblemen allocated to its own Academy?
 
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SirChandisTroy said:
I would like clarification for one detail. Assume for a moment that I have two villages, A and B, both of which have an Academy at level 1. Village A's first Nobleman was used to take over village B, and village B has not created a Nobleman yet. It has already been established that you may create one Nobleman per Academy level (ignoring those killed in battle). Does this mean that village A can create a second Nobleman by virtue of village B's Academy, or does village B have to create the Noblemen allocated to its own Academy?

Do village B has a Academy?.
 
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DeletedUser

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I would like clarification for one detail. Assume for a moment that I have two villages, A and B, both of which have an Academy at level 1. Village A's first Nobleman was used to take over village B, and village B has not created a Nobleman yet. It has already been established that you may create one Nobleman per Academy level (ignoring those killed in battle). Does this mean that village A can create a second Nobleman by virtue of village B's Academy, or does village B have to create the Noblemen allocated to its own Academy?
The question would be pointless otherwise.

Does village B have a Academy?
Fixed.
 
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DeletedUser

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ANY academy you possess can create a nobleman so long as the academy says at least...

You can still educate: 1

it doesnt matter where you create the nobleman as long as you can create one it can be done in any academy you have built so long as there is enough levels of ALL academies to create one more nobleman as shown in the line above.
 
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DeletedUser

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If someone was to send mutiple nobles to a village as mentioned in the poll.

1) does it still use one to take the village ?

2) Do the others come home or stay in support ?
 
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DeletedUser

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slyone00 said:
If someone was to send mutiple nobles to a village as mentioned in the poll.

1) does it still use one to take the village ?

2) Do the others come home or stay in support ?
only one nobleman per attack is used in the calculations. sending more than one is pointless.

odds are they would stay to support or may even get used up as if it were only one.
 
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MasterFire

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If you have noblemen (as in more then one) then you could send them one by one, that way a takeover takes less time. You could send 5 noblemen with real little pauses of X seconds so you can take over a village really fast. That is working effecient instead of sending them all in one attack
 
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DeletedUser1345

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I have a question, if you send 5 noble men at one go, wouldn't you get tthe village cause 1 noble lowers 20%
 
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firezen said:
I have a question, if you send 5 noble men at one go, wouldn't you get tthe village cause 1 noble lowers 20%

No. It would have the same effect as sending one nobleman. If you want to take advantage of multiple noblemen, you need to send them in waves.
 
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DeletedUser638

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transferring goods through academy

I thought I read somewhere that you can transfer goods from one academy to another, but I can't seem to find that post :icon_confused:

Can you do this, and if so, what is required apart from owning two academies?
 
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DeletedUser

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ok if village A's nobleman is used to conquer village B then village a's second nobleman will cost double that of the first so how much does the 3rd/4th/5th cost(do they double or add 28k/30k/25k to the cost each time and for village B i build an academy and about to build a noble, does that noble cost 28k/30k/25k as its the first noble for that village or 56k/60k/50k as its the second nobleman for ur account?
 
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Kaliban said:
I thought I read somewhere that you can transfer goods from one academy to another, but I can't seem to find that post :icon_confused:

Can you do this, and if so, what is required apart from owning two academies?

Suppose you have village A and village B, each with its own academy. You want your noble in village.

You go to village B and store some resource in the academy. The you go to village A and click on "fetch resources". Then you can select the resources in the academy in village B to be transferred.

This takes 15 merchants to do per a nobleman base cost transferred.
 
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jodox said:
ok if village A's nobleman is used to conquer village B then village a's second nobleman will cost double that of the first so how much does the 3rd/4th/5th cost(do they double or add 28k/30k/25k to the cost each time and for village B i build an academy and about to build a noble, does that noble cost 28k/30k/25k as its the first noble for that village or 56k/60k/50k as its the second nobleman for ur account?


Your first noble costs the base price.
Your second twice the base price.Your third nobleman costs three times the base price etc.

The location where your nobleman will be build does not affect actual price.
 
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milen243 said:
Your first noble costs the base price.
Your second twice the base price.Your third nobleman costs three times the base price etc.

The location where your nobleman will be build does not affect actual price.

The cost cannot continue to grow at that rate. The best your warehouse can ever get is 400.000 of each resource; that means that if the cost continues to increase at the stated rate, you have an absolute maximum of 14 villages. ( 30.000 clay * 13 units = 390.000, plus the starting village)
 
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SirChandisTroy said:
The cost cannot continue to grow at that rate. The best your warehouse can ever get is 400.000 of each resource; that means that if the cost continues to increase at the stated rate, you have an absolute maximum of 14 villages. ( 30.000 clay * 13 units = 390.000, plus the starting village)

That is why you can store resources at the academy. You can store whole portions which are as big as the base nobleman price. Those resources cannot be returned to the warehouse and can only be used for building a nobleman.

They can also be transferred to another academy if needed.
 
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DeletedUser

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Could someone just clarify this for me as I hadnt realised it worked this way.

If you lose a nobleman in an attack, the price does not reset to what you paid for that nobleman, you have to pay the increased cost as if you were building an additional one and had never lost the first one.
 
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