Crash Discussion

DeletedUser · Mar 1, 2011

-Self Destructive- said:
All in All , I can ensure you most of us dont give damn what you think about us.

As before, why keep posting :icon_rolleyes:

Your Problem is Your failure to understand CRASH is completely a new tribe. with a new council.

last time i looked at the map subV didn't existed , just like brave.

Crash cannot be blamed for what Brave! or SubV done , simply because we are crash and not Brave!

Yet the players and leadership are all from brave or subv, leopards dont change their spots do they

even if you wish to talk about pasts , I have evidence of Womble gangbanging a tribe called "Nothing To Lose" along side with SYN , which i dont talk about. because its out of subject.

That gangbang was because tribes kept merging etc, you notice we have K lines with syn, like we did with subv, hard to take a whole tribe when you cant cross a line :icon_rolleyes: Unlike brave, we dont wait for a tribe to start losing. Also NTL are ex SE, SOB, mighty etc. Been refugees for a long time, every village I take they nobled near syn to get away from me, not really called a gangbang when no more than 7 players from both tribes have ever attacked at any one time.

As a result of ALL of the merges , there will be a Huge percentage of inactive accounts that will be left over tribeless and unprotected in core of the newly formed tribe.

Brave said they had no inactives, I can quote many pages of quotes if you want, so you saying subv was full of deadwood?

They are our PRIORITY , We first clean out our Home K's of inactives , and then move out to find enemies to munch.

I dont expect you to realize this walsh , because you never been a real tribe member. strong as individual retard in tribal works.

Yeah, only lead rank 1 tribes on every world I've led on :icon_rolleyes: Never lost a war as a leader. Please show me what an op is, what to do. Me is lost, didnt your tribe say wombles would die without me, which I flamed, then you say this. LIKE I SAID BEFORE WILL YOU ALL PLEASE KEEP TO THE SAME STORY. ITS CONFUSING THE SHIT OUT OF ME.

Ask our new mod how good i am at planing, skunk was in the same tribe, may be he could let you in on a secret :icon_wink:

I'm done talking here. Keep up your blabbery. But i would love to see you have just enough BALLS to step up and declare war on us if you think we suck. you flaiming Crash in forums , and then come in-game and set a NAP with us. lol(dot) :lol::lol:

The Nap you guys wanted :lol: The Nap more than one crash player asked for :icon_wink: Maybe as I'm a team player I'm letting people adjust, maybe I'm relocating players, maybe I'm setting the wheels in motion with diplomacy, maybe when I say womble, not crash will decide if crash win this world is correct. But hey, your not in womble, so you have no idea what we are planning or doing, like you said you munch on all those inactives you werent suppose to have. If we were as bad as you make out, why do we have crash players asking for invites? I told the same to death, If or when we declare, you will know, cause we wont be 3rd no more, find it funny how its the ex-brave that try and goad womble knowing they have ex-subv as cannon fodder while they eat on inactives, I see a lot of brave stuck on the rim :icon_wink:

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DeletedUser · Mar 1, 2011

ArTcher said:
you could wait and see will we have ops or not we're decent or not

Because it will take weeks or months for you to eat up your deadwood. Even farmercy is struggling for nobles as your mass prenobling his inactives hes taking. RC with his 30+ trains never needed that when he led your lines.

Every OP subv did was run by RC, the only op we know brave did was at a tribeless inactive that you got the sit to straight away. So you dont have a proven history. Most of subv have a lot of multi clusters, just how RC liked it, what, cant you send nukes and trains at red, and pick off inactives.

Maybe all this lack of pressure is why you are losing your presence in certain k's

Repinski · Mar 2, 2011

caglen said:
Their merge has been on the cards for some time well before the Brave!/SubV merge

[19.02.2011 18:32:48] Repinski/Nuketech sier : I'm sure you've heard the rumors of the SYN and -XIII- merge
[19.02.2011 18:32:57] Repinski/Nuketech sier : they've been fluttering about for some time now
[19.02.2011 18:33:07] Repinski/Nuketech sier : the thing is, they're true. We just haven't done it yet.

Been a family all this time.

Fake.

legaldeath said:
[1/2/2011 6:51:01 PM] Repinski/Nuketech: Were probably going to merge with SYN
Guess my 2nd january beat your 17th feb by a mile :icon_rolleyes:
And you can ask rep about the authenticity of that message..

I guess you knew about the merge from the starting walshaw,and dont try to shield SYN now because they are going to be a hell lot of flames coming especially from the angry CRASH guys whom you have flamed with all your heart and soul :icon_evil:

Real. But note the probably. We were still talking, nothing was confirmed. Also Legal, unless you want your plans that you shared with me via our private skype chat way back when spilled to the externals, be they irrelavent now or not, I'd advise keeping a private chat, where two players who used to co-play and shared a bit of information with each other, silent.

-Self Destructive- said:
The Fact is , We Dont Have to Gangbang Our Enemies (SYN/-XIII- Vs Khaos) To Overwhelm Them.

How exactly is it our fault Khaos were stupid enough to declare war on -XIII- while already fighting SYN? They declared, not us. You don't honestly think we'd let someone declare on us and not hit them back do you?

-Self Destructive- said:
The Fact is , We Never Mass Recruited A Whole Continent of Our Enemies (Yes SYN You Did it.)

/me points at k43

Jimmyhawk and IamN2Speed

Enough said.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

repinski said:
Real. But note the probably. We were still talking, nothing was confirmed. Also Legal, unless you want your plans that you shared with me via our private skype chat way back when spilled to the externals, be they irrelavent now or not, I'd advise keeping a private chat, where two players who used to co-play and shared a bit of information with each other, silent.

mate i meant no offense,nor did i wanted to share any info.Thats why i only posted one message of you mentioning the merge to contradict walshaw who was trying to be a smart ass.And dont say much about sharing information,i know you shared my online times with luke resulting in him killing my nukes :icon_sad:
But nvm,i consider you my friend and wont share your plans etc in the future :icon_redface:

drluke95 · Mar 2, 2011

actually i tld him the player i was nukeing he told me he was from india ^

then you told me i was attacking you i asked your ign, so thats when i found out your timezone ... and that you have a american co ;P

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

Austrian HighLord said:
And SYN happen to care what CRASH think? Not really. Unlike CRASH I sincerely doubt we here in SYN are going to kick and scream when flamed.

The amusing part is at least SYN can manage a merge successfully and not leave three tribes behind that hadn't bothered to be disbanded shortly afterward. (Note said tribes were disbanded to avoid the "family" label.)

Lastly, I don't know about everyone's heart and soul but I am pretty sure I kept mine and pretty sure peter didn't steal it.

Yeah!! you have the backs of your bigger brother supporting you. why should you be concerned. And we don't have practice of merging, we don't merge every now and then. :icon_twisted:

Megadeth... said:
I (L) Hugs is definitely more suitable for that guy..

He is a very good player. but you don't care do you? just proud of overlarge ODA got from easy targets.

drluke95 said:
actually i tld him the player i was nukeing he told me he was from india ^

then you told me i was attacking you i asked your ign, so thats when i found out your timezone ... and that you have a american co ;P

And traitor... you need not post such unnecessary statements.

Repinski · Mar 2, 2011

legaldeath said:
mate i meant no offense,nor did i wanted to share any info.Thats why i only posted one message of you mentioning the merge to contradict walshaw who was trying to be a smart ass.And dont say much about sharing information,i know you shared my online times with luke resulting in him killing my nukes :icon_sad:
But nvm,i consider you my friend and wont share your plans etc in the future :icon_redface:

I told him where you were from but I also said you had a co like Luke pointed out. And I consider you a friend also Legal. It is just a shame your in such a horrible tribe. :icon_cry:

@ Henry,

ODA isn't a sign of easy targets, it's a sign of someone who takes part in tribal operations and actually hits enemy troops. A low ODA is a sign of someone who nobles mainly barbs and inactives.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

@ rep: Firstly this tribe is a very good tribe. Not horrible. Just a rough diamond. From outside it looks like a worthless stone. But inside it more valuable then anything.

On ODA.. I can point out a few examples that High ODA not always means good player. And low ODA means bad player that munches on barb and inactives. ylarkirikal is the best example. Many from eQu have already stated he was a loner. HE was top 5 in ODA not long back. He still is in top 20.

Also if collective tribal ODA is good it doesn't matter if the player has low oda.... maybe they planned in such a way that the last guy nobles when others helped him with the fight.

Lets take up example of two tribes.

First tribe has members A, B and C
Next tribe has members X, Y and Z

Now tribe 1 use op to attack a player D. In the op B and C send nukes at D. and finally A nobles D as he was closer. Thus A gets less ODA. but he gets the Village. But he is a good player as he can co-ordinate.

Now second tribe plan attack on same D. This tribe Gives the target to say Y. Then Y uses his nukes at D. Thus Y gets all the ODA and the village.

Both cases are of ops run, both cases people get villages. But ways are different. Simple??!!

Repinski · Mar 2, 2011

I should have used the word "generally" as of course there are some exceptions but with your little example, Player A is ALWAYS having others nuke for him in player FCB's case. Even in your scenario he should have more ODA than he does because he would in turn use his nukes for a different OP and not just sit on them.

Also it's been proven ylar was being sat when you OPed on him so don't try to say he was a bad player. He was probably a good player just didn't coordinate. You can be a good player and not coordinate but to be a great player you must work with your tribe.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

repinski said:
I told him where you were from but I also said you had a co like Luke pointed out. And I consider you a friend also Legal. It is just a shame your in such a horrible tribe. :icon_cry:

I respect any friendship out of tribe, however, I first knew you crossed the line by using this friendship information by posting this. Info he gave you was our of friendship only, not for you to use.. You can't slap him for the same reason.

repinski said:
And a Brave! member I spoke to today has informed me that despite having trusted privs it (I'll use it as to not disclose his or her gender, thus making it harder for you to figure out my contact) wasn't even informed about this merge until today and it is utterly furious about the whole thing.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

repinski said:
I should have used the word "generally" as of course there are some exceptions but with your little example, Player A is ALWAYS having others nuke for him in player FCB's case. Even in your scenario he should have more ODA than he does because he would in turn use his nukes for a different OP and not just sit on them.

Also it's been proven ylar was being sat when you OPed on him so don't try to say he was a bad player. He was probably a good player just didn't coordinate. You can be a good player and not coordinate but to be a great player you must work with your tribe.

I will explain myself later regards to your presumption of him being sat and others nuking for me since I don't have time at the moment.

I can confirm he was sat, but nobody proved when he was sat (during Op, before or after) and nobody knows how Op was planned in full. The reason is it was me and my co-player who had full information only as Op planners, which we haven't shared with anyone and only provided partial info that certain players need to know.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

repinski said:
I should have used the word "generally" as of course there are some exceptions but with your little example, Player A is ALWAYS having others nuke for him in player FCB's case. Even in your scenario he should have more ODA than he does because he would in turn use his nukes for a different OP and not just sit on them.

Well in FCB's case he has been a bit unfortunate. It that when he starts nuking people... people go mad and throw everything at him. Even defence. So it very unfortunate for him. You can see his ODD is high. But as def in sent we get 1 odd for spear.... and 4 oda for spear... so there is the imbalance.

Also it's been proven ylar was being sat when you OPed on him so don't try to say he was a bad player. He was probably a good player just didn't coordinate. You can be a good player and not coordinate but to be a great player you must work with your tribe.

Firstly I never said ylar was a bad player. Please read carefully. Secondly Nothing has been proven that he was sat when we OPed him. cause it doesn't make sense. If he had his sit why the hell go and make an op. we could have easily eaten him away. Please think carefully before posting do not use others banter.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

Double post... sorry.... I r n00b.

Repinski · Mar 2, 2011

FCBunyodkor said:
I respect any friendship out of tribe, however, I first knew you crossed the line by using this friendship information by posting this. Info he gave you was our of friendship only, not for you to use.. You can't slap him for the same reason.

Legal was council in Brave!. Your second quote of me wasn't me referring to him.

@ Henry, you could have easily planned the op and gotten the sit before it was launched and so just continued with the OP in terms of nobles.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

repinski said:
Legal was council in Brave!. Your second quote of me wasn't me referring to him.

@ Henry, you could have easily planned the op and gotten the sit before it was launched and so just continued with the OP in terms of nobles.

I was the greater council in Brave..
And rep Ylak was not sit by anyone in brave! when we launched the Op.He even attacked fcb with everything he had and fcb gained 3 million+ ODD from him.This was tracked by the new war stats in v7.0,i should have taken a screenshot of it :icon_idea:

Repinski · Mar 2, 2011

Legal you may be a friend but I trust Val's word over anyone's in CRASH/Brave! on this one since it was your tribe in question.

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

Just interesting reading of ylarkirikal talking to Bama

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ylarkirikal on 04.02. at 17:49
Man you couldnt let me be #15 for just one second?!

jeg31ny on 04.02. at 17:55
Sorry man

I did notice you made a push for it though. But I gotta regrain my ground I lost the last week when I was busy studying for my dam exams.

But why did you leave eQu?

jeg31ny on 04.02. at 17:55
regain*

ylarkirikal on 04.02. at 21:16
eQu was never my tribe. I only joined because my friends did. Now they have all quit. So there was no point in staying.

jeg31ny on 04.02. at 23:09
So what you going to do then

ylarkirikal on 04.02. at 23:12
Stay on my own until I find a worthy enough tribe to join.

jeg31ny on 04.02. at 23:14
Well you dont have the greatest of choices besides Brave! or subv because the other tribes are eQu or the people who left

ylarkirikal on 04.02. at 23:19
Well both tribes approach suitable members themselves (at least according to the information on the tribe page). I guess I am not worthy in that case.

jeg31ny on 04.02. at 23:30
I dont think we will be recruiting you but idk about brave i dont talk to them a ton

ylarkirikal on 04.02. at 23:32
Well I have about 2k incomings from Brave! atm, so I dont think they are too friendly towards me at this point.

jeg31ny on 04.02. at 23:38
Yea, I heard they might be attacking you but if you prove you are a good player they could reconsider

ylarkirikal on 04.02. at 23:41
I doubt that they would change their mind. Judging from the attacks that they are sending I can tell for sure that most of them dont know even how to fake properly. Numbers dont count for anything if you dont know how to use your assets.

jeg31ny on 05.02. at 04:12
What do you mean? What are they doing that you think isnt smart about faking?

ylarkirikal on 05.02. at 07:35
Well first they are wasting their time by sending those fakes.

ylarkirikal on 05.02. at 07:41
And second, usually fakes dont kill troops. Theirs kinda do.

jeg31ny on 05.02. at 21:21
Haha sounds like an interesting set of fakes

[/spoil]

Is he good or not, can't judge it.. Did he quit because of our Op? YES.. Otherwise, he would continue in growing.

DeletedUser70293 · Mar 2, 2011

And how did you get the mail?

DeletedUser · Mar 2, 2011

FCBunyodkor said:
I will explain myself later regards to your presumption of him being sat and others nuking for me since I don't have time at the moment.

I can confirm he was sat, but nobody proved when he was sat (during Op, before or after) and nobody knows how Op was planned in full. The reason is it was me and my co-player who had full information only as Op planners, which we haven't shared with anyone and only provided partial info that certain players need to know.

As I have previously stated, he is currently being sat by someone I know who passed the info.

FCBunyodkor said:
Correct, Brave! couldn't show their full offensive skills at that Op. However, it is still valid argument of skills that they could show till he quit.

Why would he quit otherwise?? He was ranked 16 player in World. Was it cause he got bored, no it is cause he knew he will loose anyway and have been partially lost before he quit by us gaining 3-4 million in OD.

I and my 2-3 friends were up for some fun and he destroyed our fun. Not my fault!

He transfered sit after he lost majority of his nukes, loosing alot in defense, having thousands of current incomings and being declined for recruitment.

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