For me, it's just another set of defectors who changed sides plenty of times. I'm just referring to the ~SO~ portion, not AYREON. AYREON gets respect for loyalty and growth, ever since the original mathedras (I believe it was) they've been fairly respectable. ~SO~ on the other hand warred MANIC, lost horribly, then allied MANIC, then became FS, then warred V-V-V (kinda), then lost to Storm, then joined SOA, then left SOA, then merged to Deus' side...it's long and complicated, and I probably made a mistake or two, but I'm fairly sure the ~SO~ side is just as traitorous as RONIN, but the memory was never as fresh or as long lasting, because this war is the most important yet.