Insane InSan3 leader?

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[spoil][11/11/2011 6:15:25 PM] Brian X: but it's not like he's gonna do it again
[11/11/2011 6:15:31 PM] Brian X: it's a mistake, like i said
[11/11/2011 6:15:41 PM] Twigy |Daph: How do i know that know? I cant trust him at all, which makes staying in the tribe pointless
[11/11/2011 6:15:55 PM] Brian X: we learn from our mistakes, all the time
[11/11/2011 6:16:10 PM] Brian X: erm
[11/11/2011 6:16:30 PM] Brian X: if you can't trust your leadership, then i agree you shouldn't be here
[11/11/2011 6:16:37 PM] Brian X: but he isn't the only person in the council in this tribe
[11/11/2011 6:16:49 PM] Brian X: there's no reason why you shouldn't trust us 3
[11/11/2011 6:17:07 PM] Twigy |Daph: Yea i suppose thats true[/spoil]

He could trust us. There was absolutely no reason why he couldn't trust us, calmir. As for trusting emperor, he could've slowly gotten it back.

It's hard to trust the words of a liar. Only actions and time recover the trust of such an action, but when you are in such a situation, time is what you do not have. This is an obvious indication Emporer Sin cares more about himself than the good of his tribe. Why is he a leader?

 

[DeletedUser]

this war seems to be inevitable for some time probably just a matter who declares first.

I have to agree with this, but then again most tribes with a border will eventually war each other or hug each other. In the instance of Insane, they wanted to betray their ally. And here is some more proof.

[SPOIL][10/30/2011 10:01:27 AM] Kameh: oh more recruits
[10/30/2011 10:01:42 AM] emperor_sin: [Sunday, October 30, 2011 10:01 AM] Kameh:

<<< oh more recruits (nod)
[10/30/2011 10:01:47 AM] emperor_sin: a whole k away from u
[10/30/2011 10:01:51 AM] emperor_sin: so stop being sad
[10/30/2011 10:02:12 AM] Kameh: Kameh thinks ~HG~ TERMINATE. Eric should hit terminate.
[10/30/2011 10:02:25 AM] Kameh: before i take out 2 more HG villages
[10/30/2011 10:02:37 AM] Kameh: btw i ate danyl and he's restarted in k68
[10/30/2011 10:02:39 AM] emperor_sin: keep taking them out
[10/30/2011 10:02:48 AM] emperor_sin: if and when we take the 2 recruits were seeking
[10/30/2011 10:02:54 AM] emperor_sin: we will pursue relationships with honor
[10/30/2011 10:03:01 AM] emperor_sin: if that goes through,relations with the/hg drop
[10/30/2011 10:03:03 AM] Kameh: who
[10/30/2011 10:03:03 AM] emperor_sin: and we go to war
[10/30/2011 10:03:06 AM] Kameh: fu
[10/30/2011 10:03:10 AM] Kameh:
[10/30/2011 10:03:18 AM] Kameh: i still have friends in THE
[10/30/2011 10:03:22 AM] Kameh: so i refuse to attack them
[10/30/2011 10:03:28 AM] emperor_sin: thats u
[10/30/2011 10:03:29 AM] emperor_sin: unfortunately
[10/30/2011 10:03:38 AM] emperor_sin: theres a lot of players in THE who overlap us
[10/30/2011 10:03:41 AM] Kameh: at least the friends in THE i wont
[10/30/2011 10:03:51 AM] Kameh: theres others who i'd love to get rid of
[10/30/2011 10:03:53 AM] emperor_sin: we would mainly be cleaning up our k's so to have no foreign tribes in k75/76
[10/30/2011 10:04:03 AM] Kameh: take out bia
[10/30/2011 10:04:05 AM] Kameh: doa
[10/30/2011 10:04:07 AM] Kameh: already k75
[10/30/2011 10:04:09 AM] Kameh: :O
[10/30/2011 10:04:52 AM] Kameh: eric do u want a full list on players in THE that i wont touch
[10/30/2011 10:04:53 AM] emperor_sin: thats for us in k75
[10/30/2011 10:04:58 AM] emperor_sin: u in k76 have different missions
[10/30/2011 10:05:00 AM] emperor_sin: stop being lazy
[10/30/2011 10:05:13 AM] Kameh: i dont attack friends who i know from other games
[10/30/2011 10:05:15 AM] Kameh: thats just not me
[10/30/2011 10:05:34 AM] emperor_sin: then well expect u not to support ofc and to nuke HG villages then
[10/30/2011 10:05:38 AM] emperor_sin: so others can noble
[10/30/2011 10:05:42 AM] Kameh: ill support
[10/30/2011 10:05:45 AM] Kameh: u
[10/30/2011 10:05:46 AM] Kameh:
[10/30/2011 10:05:49 AM] emperor_sin: u better
[10/30/2011 10:05:57 AM] Kameh: i mean
[10/30/2011 10:05:59 AM] Kameh: blue.devil
[10/30/2011 10:06:03 AM] Kameh: isnt my friend so after him
[10/30/2011 10:06:09 AM] emperor_sin: not like the pacman/THE situation where u said despite me saying we would be neutral u would support
[10/30/2011 10:06:17 AM] Kameh: hehe
[10/30/2011 10:06:29 AM] Kameh: that was only to the friends i know
[10/30/2011 10:06:43 AM] Kameh: but please becareful
[10/30/2011 10:06:55 AM] Kameh: because if they coordinate again on a wider border
[10/30/2011 10:07:05 AM] Kameh: it will be another 68mex
[10/30/2011 10:07:32 AM] emperor_sin: i know
[10/30/2011 10:07:37 AM] emperor_sin: and i know ur on the border
[10/30/2011 10:07:40 AM] Kameh: http://www.twstats.com/en58/index.php?page=war_stats
[10/30/2011 10:07:49 AM] emperor_sin: thats why i have been presistent on ur activity
[10/30/2011 10:07:52 AM] emperor_sin: u not leaving for a week
[10/30/2011 10:07:58 AM] emperor_sin: and everyone else to stay on top of troops
[10/30/2011 10:08:03 AM] emperor_sin: because its not going to be a field day
[10/30/2011 10:08:07 AM] emperor_sin: this will make or break us
[10/30/2011 10:08:10 AM] emperor_sin: period
[10/30/2011 10:08:15 AM] emperor_sin: we fail...we seize to exist
[10/30/2011 10:08:16 AM] emperor_sin: view it that way
[10/30/2011 10:08:19 AM] Kameh: bleh
[10/30/2011 10:08:33 AM] Kameh: im moving into k75
[10/30/2011 10:08:36 AM] Kameh: and now u say this
[10/30/2011 10:08:40 AM] Kameh: after i launched nobles
[10/30/2011 10:08:41 AM] Kameh: (angry)
[10/30/2011 10:09:12 AM] emperor_sin: lol its not gonna happen overnight
[10/30/2011 10:09:17 AM] emperor_sin: so u have time to rebuild the nobles u noob >_>[/SPOIL]

Dear THE.
Insane has an alliance with Honor now. How long do you think it will be before they come after you?

Your truly
Twigy

 

[DeletedUser93513]

How was it immature to leave? My leader that i had looked up to, had fun with, even made silly paint pictures with betrayed my trust, clearly your view point to immature is different to mine. I did the only sensible thing and put some distance between myself and Emperor. You guys then labelled me as free villages, which is understandable, but i had only left hours before, how quick you turned on me, and yet im the immature one?



As i said before have any of the leaders supported me? You attack me, Hallie sits on the sideline, Idolized is doing nothing, yup im going to trust my leaders [/Sarcasm]



Well being angry whilst being right at the same time hasnt gotten me anywhere, all that has resulted is that two leaders send noble trains at me while the other two let it happen. Thanks.

That's immature to me because I think about it like rage quitting. You left, and didn't even talk to everybody else in the council. Don't get me wrong, I'm agreeing with you! He made a mistake. But that's nothing to leave a tribe for that has other leaders to look up to..that you were in for weeks.

Twigy, simply put, we turned on you..because you turned on the tribe. I asked you to come back. I told you this already. Hallie is just staying loyal to the tribe, as am I. Anyone in InSan3 gets my full respect and loyalty. But you left and didn't want to come back. So I gave up. Then I fell asleep, read a circular mail you sent, and decided to launch on you because of it. I thought of it like an insult to my tribe. I also told Emperor to launch on you.

Again, eating your villages was never spoken of until you sent that circular. So I don't know where Agent Y gets off. We never called your villages free, especially me, because I still had respect for you. I have respect for anyone that was in Insan3.

Also, I don't know why you're trying to destroy THE and InSan3's relationship. The council is tighter than you think. "Tight like a tiger" :lol: doesn't even make sense. :lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

THE is already having a war

 

[DeletedUser]

Oh twigy I do feel for you from what I have read and heard from other insane members.

This seems to be a tribe that is loyal to it's allies but not so loyal to it's members as has been shown twice in 24 hours.

Seems that experience is not something they have gained much of with regards to member management and that friends last a lot longer than alliances.

Time will tell how well they fare :icon_rolleyes:

 

[DeletedUser101881]

Oh twigy I do feel for you from what I have read and heard from other insane members.

This seems to be a tribe that is loyal to it's allies but not so loyal to it's members as has been shown twice in 24 hours.

Seems that experience is not something they have gained much of with regards to member management and that friends last a lot longer than alliances.

Time will tell how well they fare :icon_rolleyes:

Seems you maybe correct......do I see other members leaving/being kicked?

 

[DeletedUser93513]

Oh twigy I do feel for you from what I have read and heard from other insane members.

This seems to be a tribe that is loyal to it's allies but not so loyal to it's members as has been shown twice in 24 hours.

Seems that experience is not something they have gained much of with regards to member management and that friends last a lot longer than alliances.

Time will tell how well they fare :icon_rolleyes:

If you're talking about the viking situation, he was getting attacked by our allies. I didn't know that when he joined, why he was recruited..I have no idea. Got recruied in my sleep. But anyway, when I woke up, our allies asked us to dismiss him, because he was obviously a refugee. So..we did. Then someone from my tribe said he was going to leave because we dismissed him. I asked him not to a few times, but the more I asked, the more I could see through him. His loyalty to the tribe was questioned. So I asked him to choose his tribe or his friend, and chose his friend, evidently. He was dismissed.

IMO, I don't want people like that in my tribe. I want people that are loyal to the tribe. The group, everyone as a whole. Not just 1 person that just joined the day before. People like this one are the ones that join the other side, when war approaches only because we're down a few villages on the stats. I'm here to get rid of all of those, and make a tight, close group that will stick with their tribes til the end.

 

[DeletedUser]

Oh blood blood blood...

How to describe a refugee - A player who seeks a tribe to seek shelter from an enemy attack OR A player who seeks protection from a tribe by joining to share under the umberella of an alliance.

Im sure there are a lot more detailed and varied descriptions but those cover the meaning quite well.

Ok now from my understanding of this situation Viking had asked to join Insane over a week before any attack was launched and was sat whilst the incoming was there.

Now why was the incoming there...

...A 300 point nub reports a player to the TW mods for abusive language

[spoil]Viking8585 (2011-11-10 11:55) wrote:

is that why you were rimmed???
ohhh my-i just broke 4 ribs giggling at your shit!!!!
thanks man-your funny..[/spoil]

Seems like good reason for the mods to use their powers to warn this player for such an offensive comment...and who said sarcasm was dead.

And in exchange for the warning issued Viking attacked the player back with 6 attacks...sounds fair to me

...then the players PA sent 6 attacks back (a nub from honor) maybe he should have listed this player on his profile if he cares for him so much to destroy your alliance with them over it

Then viking was sat and passed the sit check by someone with privs in your tribe (don't give them if you don't want them doing things)

A few hours later the guy brings a PA dispute up saying he doesn't want him in your tribe... so you kick him with no warning.

Not meaning to hijack this thread but where is there loyalty to the players involved, was there a discussion with him? No you bowed to a tribe that will keep pushing you till you do as they want so as I said friendships last a lot longer than alliances as experience tells us this.

 

[DeletedUser]

man i wish i was closer to this tribe seems like a bunch of noobs i would have soooo much fun with
*goes to check the area for any good villages i can get xD*

 

[DeletedUser93513]

Oh blood blood blood...

How to describe a refugee - A player who seeks a tribe to seek shelter from an enemy attack OR A player who seeks protection from a tribe by joining to share under the umberella of an alliance.

Im sure there are a lot more detailed and varied descriptions but those cover the meaning quite well.
.

That's not the point. He was being attacked by our allies before he joined. For whatever reason, none of my business. It has nothing to do with me. The point, he was being attacked by our allies when he joined.

Seems like good reason for the mods to use their powers to warn this player for such an offensive comment...and who said sarcasm was dead.

And in exchange for the warning issued Viking attacked the player back with 6 attacks...sounds fair to me

...then the players PA sent 6 attacks back (a nub from honor) maybe he should have listed this player on his profile if he cares for him so much to destroy your alliance with them over it

This is all irrelevant. Because like I said, it's none of my business how & why he was being attacked. HONOR are our allies. It would be different if HONOR asked us to dismiss someone else, that didn't have incomings when they joined. THEN the answer would obviously be no.

Then viking was sat and passed the sit check by someone with privs in your tribe (don't give them if you don't want them doing things)

I agree, we shouldn't have invited him, that's a mistake on my part.
But that's why he was dismissed. That's as deep as it gets.

And..

man i wish i was closer to this tribe seems like a bunch of noobs i would have soooo much fun with
*goes to check the area for any good villages i can get xD*

Don't assume, nub. Call me a noob as many times as you want, but I'll defend my tribe from your little comments any day.

Try me. :icon_twisted: lol

 

[DeletedUser]

Oh and we know how people don't lie and how much discussion and thought went into this...

[spoil]
bulate03 today at 14:31
Hello ive sent 2 nukes and 2 noble trains with 3 nobles in to viking8585 to help my freinds tribe noble him he attacked my frrind and a few of there members but ive noticed that yesterday he joined insan3 but i sent over 10 attacks to his village 3 dsys ago so i think that mskes him a refugee so i was just letting you know

Honey Badgers today at 14:31
do you have reports?

bulate03 today at 14:33
No they havnt hit yet thats the problem

Honey Badgers today at 14:34
even better ok thanks mate will be booted

bulate03 today at 14:35
Ok cool

This message has been forwarded by bulate03.[/spoil]
Ok I know there are some good players out there so could someone look through this and tell me whats missing...
[spoil]Village A
Axe, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 15, 2011 18:11:49:948 bulate03
Axe, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 15, 2011 18:11:59:313 bulate03
Axe, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 15, 2011 18:12:07:116 bulate03
Axe, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 15, 2011 18:12:31:518 bulate03
Spear, 001-Here come my troops! (389|550) , K53 389|550 --> Arrival time: Nov 16, 2011 14:59:09:137 bulate03
Ram, 001-Here come my troops! (389|550) , K53 389|550 --> Arrival time: Nov 17, 2011 19:14:59:768 bulate03
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 17, 2011 20:17:45:361 bulate03

Village: B
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 18, 2011 17:39:19:109 bulate03
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 18, 2011 17:39:29:084 bulate03
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547--> Arrival time: Nov 18, 2011 17:39:38:975 bulate03
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 18, 2011 17:39:46:956 bulate03
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 18, 2011 17:39:54:211 bulate03
Ram, 002-Here come my troops! (390|547) , K53 390|547 --> Arrival time: Nov 18, 2011 17:40:04:359 bulate03[/spoil]
Oh thats right...i'll give you a clue...erm if there's a train in there he can't send for shit and I didn't realise there was such a large attack gap on this world? I thought it was 100ms my mistake...and oh 11 of the 14 attacks are from the same vill...I think you'll find insane you just got played by honor and got shown to be the weaker of the two in terms of who has the power in this alliance

 

[DeletedUser101881]

So Blood.....You chose to back an allies friend over your own tribemates friend?

And you were on about tribal loyalty?

You may not think thats what has happened, but thats what it looks like.

 

[DeletedUser93513]

How did we get played?

You're not making any sense. I don't care what he's attacking him with. As long as they're not nobles. HONOR aren't nobling into k85, other than the 2 villages they already have there. If they noble more, then yes, we'll take it as a betrayal because we told them to stay out of our Ks.

You don't get the point. So, let me put this nice and simple for you.

Tribe A and Tribe B are friends. The council has played together in several worlds. Tribe A recruits someone tribe B was attacking. Tribe A was unaware of it. Tribe B asks tribe A to dismiss. Tribe A dismisses. That's what happened. Put simply enough for you?

 

[DeletedUser]

Player Z lets say for example call him I don't know bulate03 just to keep us on topic here

He says to Tribe A hey don't recruit him, I don't like him and then lies to you openly and says he has sent attacks he hasn't but thats ok because Tribe A doesn't mind what is said because they are "tribal hug buddies"

Now how do the players in Tribe A feel about this...well it doesn't matter whats said because the council know each other a long time. Lets just hope Player Z doesn't take a dislike to anymore of your players then :lol:

 

[DeletedUser93513]

So Blood.....You chose to back an allies friend over your own tribemates friend?

And you were on about tribal loyalty?

You may not think thats what has happened, but thats what it looks like.

Nope. I chose to back up my Allies over someone they were attacking.

 

[DeletedUser]

Awww so lying does not even play a part in it..

...Im with you now! They can lie all they want because they are allies.

You will go far in this game young grasshopper I sense a great future for you on the rim ^_^

 

[DeletedUser93513]

Player Z lets say for example call him I don't know bulate03 just to keep us on topic here

He says to Tribe A hey don't recruit him, I don't like him and then lies to you openly and says he has sent attacks he hasn't but thats ok because Tribe A doesn't mind what is said because they are "tribal hug buddies"

Now how do the players in Tribe A feel about this...well it doesn't matter whats said because the council know each other a long time. Lets just hope Player Z doesn't take a dislike to anymore of your players then :lol:

He never talked to us. Therefore, he never lied to us. He talked to his duke, Honey Badgers. So maybe he lied to him, I don't know. Anyhow, his duke, Honey Badgers, came to me asking to dismiss him because he had incomings from them before he joined. Tribal hug buddies? Give me a break.

Lets just hope Player Z doesn't take a dislike to anymore of your players then :lol:

Are you serious? You're making yourself sound like an idiot now. He wasn't in our tribe when he started receiving the incomings.

HONOR's council never lied to me.

[spoil][7:34:58 AM] Badgers-Jester: I told to stay out of 85 though i should not have needed to say thay
[7:35:02 AM] Badgers-Jester: also
[7:35:54 AM] Badgers-Jester: Viking8585 we have nukes on this guy incoming. we are not nobling of course but he has 10 incoming on him or more from us and had them incoming before joining you
[7:36:32 AM] Badgers-Jester: we are aiding a friend[/spoil]

That's when I dismissed him.

 

[DeletedUser]

He never talked to us. Therefore, he never lied to us. He talked to his duke, Honey Badgers. So maybe he lied to him, I don't know. Anyhow, his duke, Honey Badgers, came to me asking to dismiss him because he had incomings from them before he joined. Tribal hug buddies? Give me a break.


Are you serious? You're making yourself sound like an idiot now. He wasn't in our tribe when he started receiving the incomings.

HONOR's council never lied to me.

[spoil][7:34:58 AM] Badgers-Jester: I told to stay out of 85 though i should not have needed to say thay
[7:35:02 AM] Badgers-Jester: also
[7:35:54 AM] Badgers-Jester: Viking8585 we have nukes on this guy incoming. we are not nobling of course but he has 10 incoming on him or more from us and had them incoming before joining you
[7:36:32 AM] Badgers-Jester: we are aiding a friend[/spoil]

That's when I dismissed him.

from what i understand he got sat twice by you guys before he got the invite :/

 

[DeletedUser93513]

from what i understand he got sat twice by you guys before he got the invite :/

I agree, we shouldn't have invited him, that's a mistake on my part.

:icon_redface:

 

[DeletedUser]

Are you serious? You're making yourself sound like an idiot now. He wasn't in our tribe when he started receiving the incomings.

Yeah now that sounds totally idiotic doesn't it...he had incoming from your allies and then you recruited him after he was sit checked. Sounds much better doesn't it? :icon_rolleyes: