lantegra
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A new family(?)
I come from being a Meat duke, having fought GOF briefly, until Boi, who accepted proper NAP terms, disregarded these the day after to come to GOF's aid and flank us, quickly and swiftly defusing the war. I eventually joined GOF and aided Boi to continue this world. It took some time getting accustomed to a different tribe family shortly after having been enemies, and interesting facts and backroom anecdotes were shared, looking back at how that conflict came to be and how it played out.
Questionable Decisions
Panzer has most definitely been in contact with every major tribe, telling each tribe only that which ultimately benefits Panzer. This is applicable to any tribe who's in Panzer's position, it just happens to be Panzer for world 119. GOF leadership claimed to have mostly solidified not just a cooperation, but a merger with Panzer, and claimed to have the rosters figured out.
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I have witnessed GOF leadership promising me and a few others a ticket to win this world, a position in Panzer, however neither rosters have enough room right now, nor will they realistically have figured this out in the future, not without selling out half of the existing members. This brings me back to questioning the intentions of GOF towards its members.
I have witnessed decisions that put an emphasis the untrustworthiness of the GOF leadership:
The underlying trend here is that PANZER is ultimately being fed the easiest targets over and over, and GOF is the prime party facilitating this. In the end, there is no practical future for GOF, and they seem to be playing right into PANZER’s hands. The event where Flexes and TheBeatConductor joined PANZER, are being followed up by more questionable decisions, feeding PANZER with food on a silver platter.
I refuse being given a spot for an easy win, and any sane person can see that there is no room for something like this either. There are only continued internals and what will remain of GOF and COF is only a few strong players.
GOF & COF members deserve better
I have respect for all the GOF members that have carried the tribe up to this point enough not to be as selfish as the leadership, they have supported each other and have fought side by side, but they are being used and I feel sorry for them.
I believe in the end, it is only Salvador Dali and perhaps a few others, who will join Panzer, if that deal was even genuine from Panzer's side to begin with, and not just something Panzer wants Salvador Dali to believe for as long as it serves their purpose.
Adding all of this up, it just seems very hypocritical, and I firmly believe GOF members will suffer the same fate as Visage members did, as everything just smells like tribe leadership is gunning for a quick and dirty world win, securing spots in the biggest tribes for themselves in the long run.
A repeat of Visage is inevitable if this path is continued, it's a high price for the benefit of a few. That's a lot of diplomatic shortcuts, one of Dali's strong suits, but applied in a way I can personally not be a part of.
Unstable and toxic communication
Salvador Dali has been in toxic discussions with me in the past, but also with current opponents. He has picked fights with Phalanx them only to then task the whole tribe to engage in a war with them to facilitate his personal vendetta. When my co-player Cytha made a joke about this true observation a week ago, he was kicked out of the GOF discord by him, and Dali notified me and him that he doesn't like this and wants remarks only sent to him in private. "We can't show too much conflict within the tribe as others perceive it as weakness" said Dali. He's silencing any questions, remarks, concerns, instead forcing everyone to deal with it privately, so no one else sees. Micro-managing critique in private is a bad sign, in the long run everyone you interact with poorly will know what you’re like in private.
You do not just kick the co-player of a very important account in your tribe out of your tribe discord over a valid remark, posted as an ironic comment, and not even having approached him about it beforehand, it was an immediate kick. I admit Salvador Dali did afterwards apologize for it, but that’s quite a high horse he’s on, acting on emotions, that’s not promising at all when there will be intensive wars. I took offense to this.
The last drop
On Monday I received an interesting mail from TRE only proving and confirming Salvador Dali’s behaviour and intentions on this world and on past worlds.
This was the last drop for me.
I have decided not to be a part of this. I'm consciously stepping away from a large tribe because I am against the shady and selfish deals and the imbalance on this world MORE than wanting to be part of a large tribe where I can feel safe and part of a large group.
I am never going to insult other players, and I thank all GOF members including the leadership for initially inviting me, accepting me and rendering support and assistance during my stay. It’s not my intention to disrespect any of you, but the short-term support or praising words do not make up for the bigger picture that is going on here and how allies are temporarily made and then discarded, the current course is however simply unacceptable, and past allies are discarded as trash. I’m not going to participate in drama and I’m not going to be a dairy cow in Dali’s dairy farm for PANZER to milk dry, I am respectfully leaving. Do not look at it short-term, look long-term and you will understand.
GOF members who feel the same way can join me and avoid the same scenario Visage members ended up with. I am creating my own tribe and personally handle diplomacies, my neighbours can message me to work things out as adults, as can all GOF and COF members.
I come from being a Meat duke, having fought GOF briefly, until Boi, who accepted proper NAP terms, disregarded these the day after to come to GOF's aid and flank us, quickly and swiftly defusing the war. I eventually joined GOF and aided Boi to continue this world. It took some time getting accustomed to a different tribe family shortly after having been enemies, and interesting facts and backroom anecdotes were shared, looking back at how that conflict came to be and how it played out.
Questionable Decisions
Panzer has most definitely been in contact with every major tribe, telling each tribe only that which ultimately benefits Panzer. This is applicable to any tribe who's in Panzer's position, it just happens to be Panzer for world 119. GOF leadership claimed to have mostly solidified not just a cooperation, but a merger with Panzer, and claimed to have the rosters figured out.
Transcript:
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I have witnessed GOF leadership promising me and a few others a ticket to win this world, a position in Panzer, however neither rosters have enough room right now, nor will they realistically have figured this out in the future, not without selling out half of the existing members. This brings me back to questioning the intentions of GOF towards its members.
I have witnessed decisions that put an emphasis the untrustworthiness of the GOF leadership:
- GOF partnered up with Apache on false promises, only to stab them in the back;
- GOF partnered up with Savage in the fight against BARBIE, only to noble them when V1 was gunning for that zone as well, so much for their assistance;
- GOF partnered up with Boi to take down Meat but poorly helped Boi afterwards, focusing on V1 instead
- GOF partnered up with DND in the fight against V1, only to now be drawing up plans to take down DND
(@DND, GOF is gunning for you next, so much for your assistance against V1) - GOF could have strengthened itself by recruiting The Roman Empire + Horde, but decided to try and squeeze them out with PANZER
- Who's the next ally to be disappointed by GOF? Boi?
The underlying trend here is that PANZER is ultimately being fed the easiest targets over and over, and GOF is the prime party facilitating this. In the end, there is no practical future for GOF, and they seem to be playing right into PANZER’s hands. The event where Flexes and TheBeatConductor joined PANZER, are being followed up by more questionable decisions, feeding PANZER with food on a silver platter.
I refuse being given a spot for an easy win, and any sane person can see that there is no room for something like this either. There are only continued internals and what will remain of GOF and COF is only a few strong players.
GOF & COF members deserve better
I have respect for all the GOF members that have carried the tribe up to this point enough not to be as selfish as the leadership, they have supported each other and have fought side by side, but they are being used and I feel sorry for them.
I believe in the end, it is only Salvador Dali and perhaps a few others, who will join Panzer, if that deal was even genuine from Panzer's side to begin with, and not just something Panzer wants Salvador Dali to believe for as long as it serves their purpose.
Adding all of this up, it just seems very hypocritical, and I firmly believe GOF members will suffer the same fate as Visage members did, as everything just smells like tribe leadership is gunning for a quick and dirty world win, securing spots in the biggest tribes for themselves in the long run.
A repeat of Visage is inevitable if this path is continued, it's a high price for the benefit of a few. That's a lot of diplomatic shortcuts, one of Dali's strong suits, but applied in a way I can personally not be a part of.
Unstable and toxic communication
Salvador Dali has been in toxic discussions with me in the past, but also with current opponents. He has picked fights with Phalanx them only to then task the whole tribe to engage in a war with them to facilitate his personal vendetta. When my co-player Cytha made a joke about this true observation a week ago, he was kicked out of the GOF discord by him, and Dali notified me and him that he doesn't like this and wants remarks only sent to him in private. "We can't show too much conflict within the tribe as others perceive it as weakness" said Dali. He's silencing any questions, remarks, concerns, instead forcing everyone to deal with it privately, so no one else sees. Micro-managing critique in private is a bad sign, in the long run everyone you interact with poorly will know what you’re like in private.
You do not just kick the co-player of a very important account in your tribe out of your tribe discord over a valid remark, posted as an ironic comment, and not even having approached him about it beforehand, it was an immediate kick. I admit Salvador Dali did afterwards apologize for it, but that’s quite a high horse he’s on, acting on emotions, that’s not promising at all when there will be intensive wars. I took offense to this.
The last drop
On Monday I received an interesting mail from TRE only proving and confirming Salvador Dali’s behaviour and intentions on this world and on past worlds.
This was the last drop for me.
I have decided not to be a part of this. I'm consciously stepping away from a large tribe because I am against the shady and selfish deals and the imbalance on this world MORE than wanting to be part of a large tribe where I can feel safe and part of a large group.
I am never going to insult other players, and I thank all GOF members including the leadership for initially inviting me, accepting me and rendering support and assistance during my stay. It’s not my intention to disrespect any of you, but the short-term support or praising words do not make up for the bigger picture that is going on here and how allies are temporarily made and then discarded, the current course is however simply unacceptable, and past allies are discarded as trash. I’m not going to participate in drama and I’m not going to be a dairy cow in Dali’s dairy farm for PANZER to milk dry, I am respectfully leaving. Do not look at it short-term, look long-term and you will understand.
GOF members who feel the same way can join me and avoid the same scenario Visage members ended up with. I am creating my own tribe and personally handle diplomacies, my neighbours can message me to work things out as adults, as can all GOF and COF members.
