The Roman Empire
Contributing Poster
- Reaction score
- 361
It is no secret that I dislike Salvador, and that my opinion of him and his actions will be biased because of this. The drama however is justified in our opinion because you are doing exactly that what the Visage council did, and that is nothing I wish for to happen to other people. That is why I invest the time that I have and I do not mind it at all.
You talk about merging, which is a normal thing and it happens frequently. However leaving behind the majority of your tribe can definitely be put in the category of backstabbing, hence all the fuss about it now.
We know more than you know or care to admit. It is not just coming from me, there are other people too, can you not read? It is right here in this very forum post, on discord etc. So saying that it is just me and my opinion is just wrong, sorry.
If you would all fit into Panzer, or even if 50% of you would, then we would not be here. We wouldn't have these talks and you wouldn't have the need to defend yourselves. But they do not all fit, not even half of them do, so we are here and clearly you feel the need to defend yourself.
It does not take a genius to figure out how these OPs are organized from a defenders point of view. You also seem to forget that we have previous experience with Salvador, so yes, we do have a fair idea of how things are going.
Furthermore, according to our Vault, I had more than 6k fakes outgoing in the last 7 days alone. We fanged Salvador and we fanged Barnaborosz. We also nuked some of your players, how else would be be at 646k ODA in our little war? May I remind you that you only have 193k ODA in this war? So you are either misinformed or just unable to see things clearly.
It is true that we have not ran any major OPs on you after the fall of Visage, and yet we are up in conquerors (LOL), which makes your performance all the more pathetic. There is a simple reason for that though, given our position we had the need to turtle up to some degree. Moreover, we ran multiple OPs on you while we were still in Visage and we did so with very few accounts (mostly Horde + myself), and did so quite successfully I might add. Salvador even said we did quite good in that regard, so again you are either misinformed or just unable to see things clearly.
We will happily shut down a third, fourth and fifth OP, should your tribe be capable of doing these. We will defend for however long we can and do so proudly. I know that you cannot wait for Panzer to get involved, which may be the only thing that can actually make you get any progress here. The fact that you cannot take on a two man tribe with 20 members is definitely one of the reasons Salvador seems to want to merge so badly.
"we're going to merge with Panzer"
"we had the talk"
In response to the question whether the roster has been figured out: "we have to leave 1 or 2 guys who we don't want to leave"
You are trying to make it seem as if the talks were in an early stage, but all Salvador's quotes show that the talks were advanced and at the end.
We posted more than just "we're going to merge", and instead posted a lot of information surrounding that. So please tell me, what did we take out of context exactly? What is the context here? We are not the ones making Dali look bad, he (and you) are doing a fine job themselves.
You do not seem to understand this, we have no solution for this, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT. You are quite dense lol. You simply cannot narrow down the list of people that want to merge into Panzer to just 20 accounts, no matter how many mergers or force internals you push for. Which is the whole reason we are writing here, because you are leaving people behind. DUH.
You were not on 106 clearly. This was not after weeks or months of hard fighting, this was very quickly after HE declared war without plans, dooming every single person in his tribe. He was a bad leader on 106 and he is a bad leader on 119. We can agree to disagree, but I am not alone in my opinion on this matter.
No shit that I am in all the stories I mentioned, how else would I have experienced Salvadors leadership first hand? Others are in there too, are they too the problem rather than Salvador? He loves to shift the blame to others and you seem eager to help him in that regard. He was extremely toxic to people in his tribe, his allies, and people do not remember him fondly because of that.
I do not need things to go my way, I fully recognize the difficult position my account is in and made peace with a potential end (never happening at the hands of GOF though). Again these guys in your tribe deserve better than Salvador betraying them, than you betraying them.
It is funny that you can "recognize patients like me" through some mere words and screenshots, did you not yourself say earlier "We all know you can't convey a message through a few words in a text over digital screens". Funny that you seem to think differently now.
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