An unknown source -- nice way to get yourself off the hook there. Very Major Newspaper of you.
It's nice of you to tell me that I am trying to provoke a war because I am protesting Morph's actions. Seems to me that
actions usually lead to war... lack of appropriate reactions to diplomatic disputes as well. My protests were intended to see if Morph would follow through on the new image of trying to work things out
diplomatically, or if they would continue to justify everything they do simply because they are and have always been Evoke, unchanged.
Despite what's has been going on here the only villages I have authorized my members to take back have been the ones belonging to our member Kacu and the Bumene villages that sp.ag strongly implied were Legions/ours to deal with. We have not declared war on Morph; we have not asked Watch and Legion to attack either.
Interestingly, uncle sam, Balkan warrior, and the other members in k65 had no idea of the back story about Bumene, even though sp.ag told me that he'd told Balkan to back off and let us have the villages.
[6/8/2009 8:12:19 PM] Domin8rix: so what's going on with Bumene? any idea why he went nuts and attacked RoME?
[6/8/2009 8:22:58 PM] Sp.ag: Quiting
[6/8/2009 8:23:03 PM] Sp.ag: Found out about a hour ago
[6/8/2009 8:52:59 PM] Domin8rix: nice way to go out -- puts Morph in a hell of a bad position
[6/8/2009 8:53:20 PM] Sp.ag: Thats what i said to him
[6/8/2009 8:53:43 PM] Sp.ag: I Dismissed him and will let Watch deal with him
[6/8/2009 8:54:02 PM] Domin8rix: Watch asked DETOX to noble him because we are closer
[6/8/2009 8:54:20 PM] Sp.ag: Go for it
[6/8/2009 8:54:28 PM] Sp.ag: He is no longer our property
[6/8/2009 8:54:38 PM] Domin8rix: what on earth made him do that?
[6/8/2009 8:54:52 PM] Domin8rix: if he were to go after SSS for example because he was IFY's buddy, that would be one thing
[6/8/2009 8:54:55 PM] Domin8rix: but why RoME?
[6/8/2009 8:54:59 PM] Sp.ag: He is clearing his villages for Unacle.sam to take his villages
[6/8/2009 8:56:27 PM] Domin8rix: that's going to be interesting
[6/8/2009 8:56:52 PM] Domin8rix: any of the hits land on RoME and there are going to be some issues
[6/8/2009 8:59:12 PM] Domin8rix: I can't imagine why Bumene would choose to go out that way
[6/8/2009 8:59:31 PM] Sp.ag: :S
[6/8/2009 8:59:40 PM] Sp.ag: I wasnt aware of this until i saw his thread
[6/10/2009 6:43:36 PM] Domin8rix: did migz quit or get banned?
[6/10/2009 6:43:45 PM] Domin8rix: because he's not reaidng any tmails
[6/10/2009 6:43:48 PM] Sp.ag: neither
[6/10/2009 6:43:52 PM] Sp.ag: he is there and active
[6/10/2009 6:43:57 PM] Domin8rix: he used to talk to me quite a bit
[6/10/2009 6:44:05 PM] Domin8rix: but not so much since his dad's factory caught fire
[6/10/2009 6:45:11 PM] Sp.ag: I speak to him daily
[6/10/2009 6:46:33 PM] Domin8rix: hmm... guess he's mad about me getitng angry over Bumene and kacu
[6/10/2009 6:47:13 PM] Domin8rix: by the way, balkan warrior is also nobling Bumene
[6/10/2009 6:47:28 PM] Domin8rix: didn't you say he was no longer your property and we could take him down before the attacks hit Rome?
[6/10/2009 6:47:47 PM] Sp.ag: I spoke to balken earlier
[6/10/2009 6:47:52 PM] Sp.ag: he isnt gonig to retake the villages
[6/10/2009 6:47:57 PM] Sp.ag: I told him not to snipe them,
[6/10/2009 6:48:00 PM] Sp.ag: and he agreed
[6/10/2009 6:48:05 PM] Domin8rix: he just sent me a tmail
[6/10/2009 6:48:14 PM] Domin8rix: Balkan warrior today at 00:45
Author wrote:
[6/8/2009 8:54:28 PM] Sp.ag: He is no longer our property
Seems to me Bumene is up for grabs - first come first served -
However, I will not make any new attacks on his villes other than what is out already long on the road and way too late to stop even if i wanted to and when I take them if there are incoming from any of your tribe then i will remove my troops and let them have the ville - but in return for that i would ask to let me keep the one i already have.
Waiting for your pleasure on this ..
(the quote that Balkan used in his tmail was the first time he'd heard that sp.ag told DETOX to go ahead an attack Bumene, by the way; he was not happy that this info had not been posted in Morph's forum)
What sp.ag actually told Balkan when Balkan said he had incomings -- he didn't tell him not to snipe the villages at all:
Balkan warrior on 10.06. at 22:30
Some of us are taking
Bumene 's old villes and are finding
Detox attacks coming in as we do - too bad you couldn't have left him in the tribe while we took these villes - now we have DETOX closer than ever on our door step and lost good villes that should have stayed in the tribe.
I just took one and it has 2 nukes and a noble train on the way - i hope i do not find the same thing in the other 2 I am taking .
sP.Ag on 10.06. at 22:36
the problem is that he had caused ALOT of problems diplomatically and i had to dismiss him or other dangers could of happend.
sorry bud
Balkan warrior on 10.06. at 22:38
ok - will i cause problem with DETOX if i snip it back when he takes it? - I don't want to make a mess for you here.
i have proof that i took it first - i already renamed it etc.
sP.Ag on 10.06. at 22:39
hmmmm i am not to sure they will take nicely to it but its as much as yours as theirs. up to you i will deal with either scenario.
Balkan warrior on 11.06. at 00:55
here is our converstaion - i do not see where i agreed to do any such thing
This message has been forwarded by Balkan warrior.
Nice diplomacy sp.ag, really stellar: you told me that you had told Balkan warrior not to snipe those villages yet the convo he forwarded ot me says nothing of the kind. You didn't tell your tribe that you had made a deal over Bumene, you didn't tell uncle sam "let DETOX know that kacu was gifted to you."
Nope, in effect what you did was set all of k65 up to be sacrificed, didn't you? They were already taking the brunt of the attacks from HAWKS but for some odd reason you thought they should be OK with also being attacked by DETOX. I have given you days to try to discuss any of this diplomatically but you just keep justifying what you have done without any concern for the consequences. If I were as unreasonable as you are trying to make me out to be, I would have declared war over kacu and the attacks on Rome without giving you these past few days to settle things per the New Image.
I really don't see how WE are bullying YOU when YOUR tribe attacked Rome, YOUR tribe nobled a member of DETOX. This is just more Evoke arrogance deciding that anything you choose to do should be fine with every other tribe. That isn't going to work any more.