DeletedUser
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if cr was as big as ronin they could take ronin especially with me but i got lazy
Shusaku Chiba
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A lot of very good players came from Fuse. And from what I remember they were winning VVV until GARUDA and Kinky stepped in. But yes you really should learn to play before leading.
DeletedUser
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I'm back again as of last month, and nickers came back yesterday.
Not sure about the rest though..... wait, wasn't lalia the player who booted nickers and myself from Kinky? :icon_smile:
DeletedUser
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*cough manipulative witch cough*
@FUSE; If Munpia had better leadership, they would have made a major impact on this world. If TLA had good leadership, even they would have had a major impact on this world.
Hell, you could say the same for PLAGUE.
I don't see why FUSE would be different, or on a better standard. It'll always be remembered as the VVV vs MORE war, and not the FUSE war. That, and the tribe absolutely crumbled the minute their leader gave up. I think we can all agree that mad89 was a bad leader... yet he was all keeping it together? From that follows that it was a bad tribe, no?
@FUSE; If Munpia had better leadership, they would have made a major impact on this world. If TLA had good leadership, even they would have had a major impact on this world.
Hell, you could say the same for PLAGUE.
I don't see why FUSE would be different, or on a better standard. It'll always be remembered as the VVV vs MORE war, and not the FUSE war. That, and the tribe absolutely crumbled the minute their leader gave up. I think we can all agree that mad89 was a bad leader... yet he was all keeping it together? From that follows that it was a bad tribe, no?
Shusaku Chiba
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I'm gonna have to look up some of the history, but I remember FUSE having good reason to fight MORE and taking them down quickly and effectively.
Fuse's fate was sealed the minute they took down their own academy tribe, apparently with good reason, but the bigger tribes did to turn against FUSE, IMO seeing them as a rival 1v1. Without a doubt the leader was a noob, inexperienced both in playing and leading, however they were winning VVV before GARUDA and Kinky stepped in - I think I can find the stats to prove that.
Yeah I think had they had a more experienced and capable leader they'd have went far, more so than Munpia and TLA, due to their location and IMO better standard of players.
DeletedUser
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A rival? FUSE was a fringe tribe, spread over various continents, and better than PLAGUE only by virtue of not having a bad reputation. Kinky didn't even care about FUSE, Nickers and Adam were out looking for individual fun. I'm sure they had some individually-capable players, just like PLAGUE did. Just like Munpia did -- Munpia had a great opportunity to go very far, but with their leader leaving fell apart. FUSE was geographically in a much worse position than Munpia, in my opinion.
I don't even want to know how dismantling an academy tribe could be a lethal thing. :icon_razz:
I don't even want to know how dismantling an academy tribe could be a lethal thing. :icon_razz:
DeletedUser
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Further searching reveals that FUSE sprouted up roughly in October, rising through the ranks relatively quickly at first, only to fall to levels comparable to KINGS, but... falling within two month's time.
Roughly their start:
http://en24.twmaps.org/archive/1225158347
Died before Jan.
Roughly their start:
http://en24.twmaps.org/archive/1225158347
Died before Jan.
Shusaku Chiba
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Well I don't have the time or interest to continue this, but I'm sure I'm right. Cya.
DeletedUser
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that's hell of a fails...first you post wrong fact,secondly you refuse to back them up when someone point it out,then you run away claiming you lack time to defend your opinion/version of story...
as for myself,im pretty sure Rukoh is 100% right,I do remember Adam and Nicker quiting there tribe to go solo on Fuse/fuse leader.But never did GARUDA or KINKY interfered directly in that war.your just talking crap:icon_rolleyes:
DeletedUser
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We didn't leave the tribe to do it, but you are right, we were solo.
When we asked pervis whether or not attacking Fuse was ok he kind of shrugged his shoulders and told us to go for it, although Kinky had more pressing matters in the core so wouldn't be able to aid me and nickers fooling around up north :icon_razz:
Shusaku Chiba
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Well I've took time out to look through a few old post, I hope they show a few positives about Fuse.
^For me, in my opinion, that brings back memories of FUSE being one of the fastest growing tribes, who would have eventually become quite a force had they had a more experienced leadership. I'm sure the other tribes must have realised how fast FUSE were growing and with the whole rim to expand on, I'd be worried if they hadn't.
^As you can see it was FUSE who easily destroyed MORE. I'd like someone to show me the VVV vs MORE stats.
Oh and here is the declaration of war on FUSE from Garuda, which sorta destroys your point about no interference from GARUDA http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=107213&highlight=fuse
^For me, in my opinion, that brings back memories of FUSE being one of the fastest growing tribes, who would have eventually become quite a force had they had a more experienced leadership. I'm sure the other tribes must have realised how fast FUSE were growing and with the whole rim to expand on, I'd be worried if they hadn't.
Side 1: MORE
Side 2: Fuse
Timeframe: Last week
Total conquers:
Side 1: 167
Side 2: 294
Difference: 127
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 6
Side 2: 115
Difference: 109
Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 859,595
Side 2: 2,045,036
Difference: 1,185,441
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 52,131
Side 2: 973,958
Difference: 921,827
^As you can see it was FUSE who easily destroyed MORE. I'd like someone to show me the VVV vs MORE stats.
Oh and here is the declaration of war on FUSE from Garuda, which sorta destroys your point about no interference from GARUDA http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=107213&highlight=fuse
DeletedUser
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damn,my memory really suck donkey,I even posted in that thread:icon_eek:
I should really stop drinking,at least I was right bout kinky :lol:
edit: getting a ''from last 7 day'' cannot reflect the real history,there's some week where I domine tottaly last 7 day of nobling (as a player) and there's some week im at 0,I dont see how its mean something,a cumulatif of Ennoblement winner/looser is needed to determine a grow.And not simply choosing the week that fit your need.
I should really stop drinking,at least I was right bout kinky :lol:
edit: getting a ''from last 7 day'' cannot reflect the real history,there's some week where I domine tottaly last 7 day of nobling (as a player) and there's some week im at 0,I dont see how its mean something,a cumulatif of Ennoblement winner/looser is needed to determine a grow.And not simply choosing the week that fit your need.
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Shusaku Chiba
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You weren't right about Kinky. Taking out there leader is pretty direct.
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DeletedUser
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KINGS got 300+ conquers in one week against ESL once the war got rolling. Does that mean that KINGS, like FUSE, should get 'credit' for this?
Or should VVV get credit for killing ESL, like they did MORE?
@'fast growth' MORE was up there, does that mean that MORE had a ton of potential also? :icon_eek:
Hell, Munpia is right behind FUSE in those particular stats (other weeks could well have meant different stats), so I still don't see how you claim that FUSE is 'magically' so much better than others.
@Location; Munpia also had 'the whole rim', your point?
Your evidence is chancy, at best.
Or should VVV get credit for killing ESL, like they did MORE?
@'fast growth' MORE was up there, does that mean that MORE had a ton of potential also? :icon_eek:
Hell, Munpia is right behind FUSE in those particular stats (other weeks could well have meant different stats), so I still don't see how you claim that FUSE is 'magically' so much better than others.
@Location; Munpia also had 'the whole rim', your point?
Your evidence is chancy, at best.
DeletedUser
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Manic is da best
DeletedUser
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having 2 player from a whole tribe going solo on one player is not what I would call ''having KINKY jumping in''
so yes,I was wrong bout them leaving Kinky to acheive there personal goals,but no,I wasent wrong about them going solo,If you notice the damage they did by there own,now imagine how it would had be if they had there 40 mates to work with them...
And they took down there target with so much ease it wasent even funny...
Now you clearly failed to answer my other point,
Kriid said:
I dont see how or why Fuse was so badass in your eyes,apart maybe the fact you was part of them?
DeletedUser
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Well kriid, s2orm is still better then deus, so dont try to prove it, everyone knows
deus are in denial so they just lied to themselves to much so they believe false things
deus are in denial so they just lied to themselves to much so they believe false things
DeletedUser
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I dont see how this is related to Storm VS Deus
DeletedUser
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It still didn't have anything to do with Kinky though.... well not officially anyway.
Kinky was a core tribes, nickers and myself were the only members in K34 for quite some time, the largest the "northern cluster" ever got was about 5 members.
2 players co-ordinating against a tribe =/= direct involvement from Kinky.
DeletedUser
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As a former Fuse councilman i can tell you something:
Fuse was a k25/24 tribe, not spread over various continents
Fuse entered in the V-V-V vs MORE war because we had some conflicts in the past with them
The Fuse leader was a noob (like me) and the real leader of the tribe, in my opinion was TheEyeOfTiger
The leader of Fuse academy was a close friend to a V-V-V leader
The Fuse academy was declared hostile because they weren`t following orders.
In about 1 week after Fuse declaration on V-V-V nickers and some GARUDA members (like SultanSaladin and Iamgreen) started the attacks on Mad89 and some other Fuse members
Mad89 deleted
Holla let me to join his tribe (can`t belive i tricked him :lol
Fuse was a k25/24 tribe, not spread over various continents
Fuse entered in the V-V-V vs MORE war because we had some conflicts in the past with them
The Fuse leader was a noob (like me) and the real leader of the tribe, in my opinion was TheEyeOfTiger
The leader of Fuse academy was a close friend to a V-V-V leader
The Fuse academy was declared hostile because they weren`t following orders.
In about 1 week after Fuse declaration on V-V-V nickers and some GARUDA members (like SultanSaladin and Iamgreen) started the attacks on Mad89 and some other Fuse members
Mad89 deleted
Holla let me to join his tribe (can`t belive i tricked him :lol
