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SLW joined war with bdeath on 2008,December 30th, 20:47 the war was started by others against the wishes of SLW leadership as we had other targets in mind but we fought on like troopers! here is the thread.
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=112443
SLW kept the war up after legit's fall, here is the thread for reference
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=144801
Bdeath won the war eventually around 2009,May 31st, 21:30
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=144801&page=9
In the terms of our break up we had the options to join $cod$ or bdeath and all who didn't would be taken out by bdeath. Most joined $cod$ but some joined plague mostly, bdeath's academy
The peace was stressful but it held for about 7 months. $cod$ recruited many people around bdeath and that anoyed them and before the end of last year bdeath started taking them out with style, before we sent our attacks at bdeath from $cod$ bdeath had some 500 caps against $cod$ or more if i remember right, i didn't save the mail, perhaps codafine did. Coda refused peace talks and wanted to keep no relations with $cod$ and to continue to take out those players and refusal of talks brought the loss of all bdeath towns almost in k82 and others or our regions in $cod$ while bdeath continued to eat up those in k60/80 that we recruited mostly in error but some good players came from that group!!!! and relocated or took new accounts.
Now SLW members that had joined bdeath broke off after the fall of the great family tribe to the west, a couple never joined when they moved to family status. I don't know all the details but eventually S|W(note that isn't a L but a | like used in 123|456) was formed and eventually bdeath reformed as well.(although it never dispanded just changed its name for a time)
At some point little jac, SLW's duke, reformed the tribe but didn't call it that at first as there was still peace with bdeath at the time.
little jac talked me out of joining many times LOL as i have always wanted to go home. Things were okay in $cod$ for me mostly but it never felt like home. little jac kept us all happy and talked us through things over the years and to me he has always been my duke.
Things came to a head with $cod$ for me for many reasons not needed to go into here but it feels like i have mailed my reasoning to 1/2 the world already when asked. $cod$ leadership posted my basic reasons for leaving in there forums and it summed it up reasonable well. That isn't vital and if you really want to talk it out with me i think most of you have me on skype.
I cried a LOT that week as leaving my friends was hard. What was harder was the hard words but i get over things quickly as the couple i freaked out at i am now friends with again.
Warfighter has long wanted to join jac again as have I and his move was like a no brainer, all i had to do was mention i was thinking of joining jac again and he said me too LOL
If i needed to justify our membership: Dust4dust and helio and i have worked together a lot for a while here and i couldn't not talk to them about it and they choose to come too, leeart is always a good fighter and a former SLW member. sms77 is my brothers old account has been a good player and as it was a ex SLW account and mine in my feeling as it was my brothers we invited him and the player choose to join. LOTS my brother came eventually obviously.
SLW was to disband by the terms of our defeat to bdeath and it did disband this is a new tribe with the same name.
That brings us to today.
So many seem to know what i am doing and talk like they where wronged or what not. My quick answer is what more could have i have done? Did i not do enough for $cod$? I joined SLW again and SLW is unmerged.
my post that was deleted helps describe SLW
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Now we come to bdeath. I was clear with bdeath and xxxx that we would continue to take the towns of tribalsquire that we had already cleared witch was all in k81. I also had 1 perma sat that i tribelessed as he quit and let them eat his k80/90 towns. Bdeath started eating tribalsquire quickly in k81 so we started eating our inactive in k90/80 some and took some tribalsquires out side of k81 even, not many.
SLW recieved many new attacks from bdeath sent on towns we had for weeks or months and many recap attempts and a few successes where made against us from bdeath. The final straw came as the Duke of bdeath attacked our diplomate helio(formerly coolman and founder and former duke of ~I~) Here is my conversation with the duke of bdeath.
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No new attacks have been sent on bdeath besides what i told them we where going to do until we sent on ccamp as a response to aggression. New attacks sent on a tribe are a act of war and it was our choice to respond to them. We have not declared war on bdeath but we are defending our selves.
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=112443
SLW kept the war up after legit's fall, here is the thread for reference
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=144801
Bdeath won the war eventually around 2009,May 31st, 21:30
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=144801&page=9
In the terms of our break up we had the options to join $cod$ or bdeath and all who didn't would be taken out by bdeath. Most joined $cod$ but some joined plague mostly, bdeath's academy
The peace was stressful but it held for about 7 months. $cod$ recruited many people around bdeath and that anoyed them and before the end of last year bdeath started taking them out with style, before we sent our attacks at bdeath from $cod$ bdeath had some 500 caps against $cod$ or more if i remember right, i didn't save the mail, perhaps codafine did. Coda refused peace talks and wanted to keep no relations with $cod$ and to continue to take out those players and refusal of talks brought the loss of all bdeath towns almost in k82 and others or our regions in $cod$ while bdeath continued to eat up those in k60/80 that we recruited mostly in error but some good players came from that group!!!! and relocated or took new accounts.
Now SLW members that had joined bdeath broke off after the fall of the great family tribe to the west, a couple never joined when they moved to family status. I don't know all the details but eventually S|W(note that isn't a L but a | like used in 123|456) was formed and eventually bdeath reformed as well.(although it never dispanded just changed its name for a time)
At some point little jac, SLW's duke, reformed the tribe but didn't call it that at first as there was still peace with bdeath at the time.
little jac talked me out of joining many times LOL as i have always wanted to go home. Things were okay in $cod$ for me mostly but it never felt like home. little jac kept us all happy and talked us through things over the years and to me he has always been my duke.
Things came to a head with $cod$ for me for many reasons not needed to go into here but it feels like i have mailed my reasoning to 1/2 the world already when asked. $cod$ leadership posted my basic reasons for leaving in there forums and it summed it up reasonable well. That isn't vital and if you really want to talk it out with me i think most of you have me on skype.
I cried a LOT that week as leaving my friends was hard. What was harder was the hard words but i get over things quickly as the couple i freaked out at i am now friends with again.
Warfighter has long wanted to join jac again as have I and his move was like a no brainer, all i had to do was mention i was thinking of joining jac again and he said me too LOL
If i needed to justify our membership: Dust4dust and helio and i have worked together a lot for a while here and i couldn't not talk to them about it and they choose to come too, leeart is always a good fighter and a former SLW member. sms77 is my brothers old account has been a good player and as it was a ex SLW account and mine in my feeling as it was my brothers we invited him and the player choose to join. LOTS my brother came eventually obviously.
SLW was to disband by the terms of our defeat to bdeath and it did disband this is a new tribe with the same name.
That brings us to today.
So many seem to know what i am doing and talk like they where wronged or what not. My quick answer is what more could have i have done? Did i not do enough for $cod$? I joined SLW again and SLW is unmerged.
my post that was deleted helps describe SLW
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[/spoil]SLW is getting a bit crowded though, 6 active fighters is more than most tribes and i don't think any world could stand more then 12 so active fighters in the same tribe :icon_eek:
from here to the end SLW tribe cap is now set at 12!!!
OJ destroy 12 oranges a glass and keep all the calories! yummmy TRULY a Good glass of OJ is screwed right up by even one bad orange or a lemon. There is people that like drinking lemonade but i would direct them to tribalhugs.net. There is some good mixed drinks with strawberries and the like in them, even kiwi mixed in with some grapes and the like isn't all that bad but the best juice drink is a good glass of OJ. Perhaps grape juice is okay, it mixes well with lots of fruits, i have always felt i am more of a oranges type of guy though.
[spoil]oranges= good player
grapes = players that are okay but are able to mix with the newbs better
other fruits = newbs
lemons = super newbs
bad orges = good players gone perma sat[/spoil]
and
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[/spoil]Our diplomacy and plans will remain our own! :icon_evil:
SLW will have NO perma sats(free towns for all, if you piss us off we will just take them later) and is a independent tribe from $cod$ and xxxx
Now we come to bdeath. I was clear with bdeath and xxxx that we would continue to take the towns of tribalsquire that we had already cleared witch was all in k81. I also had 1 perma sat that i tribelessed as he quit and let them eat his k80/90 towns. Bdeath started eating tribalsquire quickly in k81 so we started eating our inactive in k90/80 some and took some tribalsquires out side of k81 even, not many.
SLW recieved many new attacks from bdeath sent on towns we had for weeks or months and many recap attempts and a few successes where made against us from bdeath. The final straw came as the Duke of bdeath attacked our diplomate helio(formerly coolman and founder and former duke of ~I~) Here is my conversation with the duke of bdeath.
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[/spoil]snaperay on 31.10. at 00:03
i am told you got a noble train snipped on that account, just wanting your side, that isn't my intentions on this dead account.
ccamp72 on 31.10. at 10:57
OK snape no probs. It was 4 trains but since then I've been informed you lost the account sit. Thanks for the reply
snaperay on 31.10. at 12:23
troops are building in all towns and when i had sitting last there was 30 incoming support from $cod$ and some support still walking back to some villages. The player with the account said they haven't and won't snipe
ccamp72 on 01.11. at 03:16
Ok thanks bud I must have ran into returning or supported troops.
ccamp72 on 02.11. at 07:07
Snape can you tell me why SLW players are still attacking and nobling Bdeath.
I've been informed our tribe should avoid attacking you by our ally and your tribe was advised of the same under the NAP with XXXX.
Is it your guys intention to leave COD start SLW up again and attacking Bdeath withour fear of XXXX under the NAP terms?
snaperay on 02.11. at 07:26
i was told of the noblement of your town, and that the nobles where already walking before you took the town. As i told you we are mostly taking the towns from tribalsquire in k81 only. I will check our enoblement not to see what your talking about.
snaperay on 02.11. at 07:33
i just checked all captures and only see enoblement of tribalsquires in k81 basically*(entirely i think)*
is this become a problem now?
ccamp72 on 02.11. at 07:54
No not helio. I noticed leeart hit pooze
snaperay on 02.11. at 08:03
yeah, i guess leeart was working on pooze there about 1 week ago, only 8 towns left, i don't know if he is still doing that or not. I didn't see helio nobling any bdeath out side of k81. I guess many of tribalsquires towns inside of k81 where taken and it is understandable as $cod$ is taking them as well. Helio took a few towns in k80 i think but not bdeath towns.
EiGhTy* (74|897) K80 9,434 rob449 helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-02 03:46:34
EiGhTy* (83|894) K80 8,617 helio123 [SLW] helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-01 23:54:22
EiGhTy* (83|894) K80 8,617 helio123 [SLW] helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-01 23:54:17
EiGhTy* (83|894) K80 8,617 shovel1972 [XXXX] helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-01 23:54:12
NiNeTy (88|906) K90 9,193 rob449 helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-01 13:09:04
he took 3 towns in k80/90 but the one he took from shovel his nobles where walking before capture by shovel. As part of my understanding was tribalsquires towns in k81 would be left to us but as they haven't been i don't feel us taking a few towns of our inactive rob in k80/90 should be looked at badly. I feel i have been overly generous actually LOL considering... ? I hope you don't read anything into this.
ccamp72 on 02.11. at 08:07
Helios not an issue at all rob is free game considering he's former cod and inactive. Someone has to take them and no one really has enough nobles available to take someone taht quickly.
As for pooze I know leeart was working him as he was inactive but as long as no one continues to look at bdeath members active or not as easy targets thats all
snaperay on 02.11. at 08:10
very understandable. Beyond what i said that is all we are up to right now I don't intend to talk to leeart about pooze, pooze has had plenty of time to relocate... only 8 towns... isn't something i really think you and I should be talking about
snaperay on 02.11. at 08:18
[player]helio123[/player] is our official spokes man but i don't mind talking to you as well. Some think i am the duke over here LOL i am not... helio isn't either but most of us are capable chatters!
ccamp72 on 02.11. at 09:20
Understand mate just raising a point incase something got out of hand with tribemembers attacking each other
snaperay on 02.11. at 14:28
makes sense, people over have the general understanding at this time as you seam to have over there.
ccamp72 on 08.11. at 02:40
Hey again
is there a reason leeart is know sending attacks/scouts at my villages
snaperay on 08.11. at 20:01
1 NiNeTy (78|911) K90 9,193 helio123 [SLW] ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 22:24:23
1 NiNeTy (78|911) K90 9,193 ccamp72 [BDeath] helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-05 16:20:04
1 NiNeTy (80|912) K90 9,193 helio123 [SLW] ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 12:14:44
1 NiNeTy (80|912) K90 9,406 ccamp72 [BDeath] helio123 [SLW] 2010-11-05 08:09:11
you sent on him, he didn't send on you, you took 2 villages from helio123 shortly after taken. He sent on one of our inactive players towns that we where directed by the player to eat our selves, we have been nice enough to not push the account and let you take 100s with out a fight.
Author said:rob449 on 26.10. at 00:15
To helio123 and dust4dust.
So the time has come for me to hang up my virtual sword and shield.
You have probably seen this coming from my recent inactivity.
So i would like you two to have my villages. You are the players that have helped me out the most and i would have quit sooner if i didnt have you fighting at my side.
Perhaps i will return to TW one day when i have more time on my hands and W22 is over and we can fight side by side once again.
Good luck in TW and real life,
Rob Willis, 21, UK.
(P.S - Sit passed to dust for now to distribute my villages as you see fit)
here is a list of attacks, i haven't saved mine but i could look for them, i have also gotten MANY new incomings from bdeath sent after we joined little jac in SLW. And i know others have as well.
- [report]4535e77049eb000989ec361f18890361[/report]
- [report]88ef466432ad1f65142cc84f6f851c4c[/report]
- [report]3913b4ae6bbd18ad1cf99c52bbf1f7e7[/report]
- [report]ba076f6aae586eed7833e86d2417f4f4[/report]
- [report]96b153ff647ee0d39e56936b463aa260[/report]
- [report]1b61b1aa66b85ec03020e33a4d088380[/report]
- [report]0b88d28af8e36471da22f12179c65cea[/report]
- [report]2c829c23445df0925dedec33d33397da[/report]
As i said to you from the start:
ccamp72 on 24.10. at 06:57
So Snape I see your left COD and instead of heading to another tribe I see you have restarted SLW.
Basically whats your intention now as the NAP has been formed with our ally.
Do your plans with Bdeath involve war or more peaceful terms.
Also can you enlighten me or what or how many I of your former mates are planning on leaving COD to join you?
Chris
Bdeath Duke
snaperay on 24.10. at 07:12
i only have a invite out to helio123 and LOTS as we will only take in the best of the south west. I don't know if they will join or not, there call. we had plans on tribalsquire and had been setting up for it for over 1 week, our intentions are to only take her k81 towns. beyond that relations with bdeath are up to negotiations but our only tribal target right now is tribal squires k81 towns.
I have no intention of waring as we are currently a small group and jac is the duke but i think he will let me speak for SLW. He asked us not to attack bdeath as well as we asked him not to attack xxxx as he was clearing one of there players out of k73 that dared attack him LOL. Dust had already cleared 9-10 towns of tribalsquires in k80 and will take those before moving to her k81 towns. Shortly before leaving 2 of use had attacked one town of codafines in k83 but that has stopped I do believe.
What would you like to see from [ally]SLW[/ally]?
SLW will have NO perma sats and is a independent tribe from $cod$ and xxxx
ccamp72 on 24.10. at 07:25
I spoke to Jon as he told me about what is happing with you guys.
Our focus is COD and has been for a while. If attacks were to cease I'm sure there would be no issue in a NAP depending on what jac was to say but the terms would have to be the same with us as XXXX have with their NAP with your tribe.
You are aware though that our members and probably XXXX would have to pass through your and COD shared Ks to keep attacking them.
Any restrictions on what Ks to be allowed to noble in while COD held villas there would be an issue, unless yoru tribe was going to clear COD out yoursleves.
snaperay on 24.10. at 07:27
Author said:unless yoru tribe was going to clear COD out yoursleves.
i dont' have quite enough nobles LOL and i am pretty sure warfighter and dust don't either, although i know jac has a lot LOL
i was going to say that i will never enter into another NAP where there are k restrictions, that was more stressful then war LOL
ccamp72 on 24.10. at 07:31
So what of the former mates left in COD won't they be pissed when they see you guys have gone
snaperay on 24.10. at 07:36
if they attack us then war from SLW against $cod$ will be short and sweet
ccamp72 on 24.10. at 10:09
lol I doubt they would
snaperay on 24.10. at 19:53
the problem with a potential NAP is this:
http://www.twstats.com/en22/index.php?page=tribe&mode=members&id=7218
It will be hard for me to sell a NAP when your hauling so many inactive players
OF COURSE your choice how you run things and we aren't currently doing more then what i have said, but for us to not attack while we will always NEVER be holding any players of even limited skills while your tribe is holding so many inactive accounts will be hard.
How are we to want that?
Do you have any ideas how we could get past that?
ccamp72 on 25.10. at 17:03
Not to worry our inactive issues are being sorted out. Were been requested to avoid anything with you guys after talking to allies. Weather that stays that way or you guys choose to attack is your tribes decission.
Thats pretty much my sell on the matter
snaperay on 25.10. at 17:41
l8rs
in bold are a bit more relevant parts. Bdeath choose to attack us repeatedly.
$cod$ choose to not once send a new attack at a SLW member, your tribe thought it might be fun to test us. Including the duke of bdeath.
This is not a declaration of war, this is just how we respond to aggression.
ccamp72 on 08.11. at 21:37
I suggest you get it right I had nobled those villas then he nobled them so i took them back.
1 NiNeTy (80|912) K90 9,193 ccamp72 [BDeath] ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 12:15:00
1 NiNeTy (80|912) K90 9,193 helio123 [SLW] ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 12:14:44
1 NiNeTy (80|912) K90 9,406 ccamp72 [BDeath] ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 07:58:53
1 NiNeTy (78|911) K90 9,193 helio123 [SLW] ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 22:24:23
1 NiNeTy (78|911) K90 9,193 rob449 ccamp72 [BDeath] 2010-11-05 15:23:44
And nice to let me take them if the troops weren't removed they would have been cleared by the nukes I sent before he quit.
So are you guys COD or SLW as last i saw he was COD then tribeless regardless of who was sitting
snaperay on 08.11. at 21:44
he was $cod$, he gave instuctions to dust and helio as his closest friends and allies, we tribelessed him and didn't do anything with him since. helio's troops where walking before you took the towns as you know, he didn't send on you you send on him as did others from bdeath. Not just on him. rob was $cod$ obviously and we are obviously not $cod$. Some of his towns where obviously already cleared but most where not. Much different from tribalsquires who we had almost entirely cleared before joining SLW or i should say helio did. His k81 towns that is.
ccamp72 on 08.11. at 22:05
And as I remember we were requested don't attack SLW as you guys were going to join XXXX. Instead you choose not to and continue to target Bdeath and tribalsquires.
We spoke on the matter. nobles walking or not helio still nobled the villas from me so I took it back. What would you do let ir ride? I doubt that very much
snaperay on 08.11. at 22:48
in the worlds of one of our other leaders:
Hey Chris,
As you had been saying you had no plans to attack SLW, I have been surprised to see you have been attacking us, and it's not just stray cross-nobling, but real attempts. As you can understand, this is not something a proud tribe like ours can or will tolerate.
We are not declaring war, but will be taking action.
ccamp72 on 08.11. at 22:58
As i said in past messages we did have no intention but your guys choose to attack first need I raise the list of members attacked including myself.
That has changed now and I doubt take threats lightly. Attcking and nobling one members tribe is an act of war. To noble back is only fair. Your guys launched first so don't insult my intelligence or lower yourself with petty crap squabbling when the facts are clear of what your tribes intentions are.
As for your leaders in another world he can contact me on this world rather then through you
snaperay on 08.11. at 23:02
show me one attack SENT at a bdeath player and i MIGHT believe you. ALL attacks i have heard of where sent BEFORE you guys took towns. I lost got MANY of my towns taken before i took them and did i send ANY new attacks? NOPE not once. my nukes nobles just died LOL. Did helio send NEW attacks on your towns? nope he sent attacks before you took the towns.
THAT is not called attacking my friend. What we are doing now is certainly called attacking LOL. IF you felt attacked before this is what is called being attacked.
ccamp72 on 08.11. at 23:07
NO I didn't feel attacked before and to be honest I still don't. I'm sure you could do better then that lol
snaperay on 08.11. at 23:10
heck yeah i could LOL
ccamp72 on 09.11. at 08:57
Thats getting better :O
No new attacks have been sent on bdeath besides what i told them we where going to do until we sent on ccamp as a response to aggression. New attacks sent on a tribe are a act of war and it was our choice to respond to them. We have not declared war on bdeath but we are defending our selves.
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