For those of you that want some insite.
siddhartha96 today at 03:04
Crysalith, Ancienthoard, and I have been in conversations with TSoH for several weeks about our places in the world. We have decided to leave our inactive, unproductive, and worthless players behind and leave our tribes to create a new tribe to war the world. It's time that we give the world a good, firm shakeup, not because we have to, but because we can.
We are not just trying to hug and merge our way to the end of the world- we will be nobling everybody else.
We are not merging our way out of war. We have no plans to make allies. We're not taking the easy way out, we're taking the fun way- a tribe of 60 active players who like nobling enemies....and there will be lots of enemies.
I intend to invite those of us who receive this mail to a new tribe this weekend. If you delay in accepting your invitation, your spot may be given to someone else. There are only 60 spots available for the best players from AXE and TSoH. We will not be a family tribe.
It is important that you respond to this mail. I hope you all understand, and will be joining us soon.
im not going to get into any online arguments.
The wars will remain the same, there will be no allies. EAch player in this new tribe will have EIGHT
enemies to deal with, per person, based on the number of active players left. And it will be us against the world.
If you think thats hugging, then good for you.
Any further questions, mail myself, Sid or Cyrsa.
The only reason we're winning against exile in the stats is because UNP barbed and grebro quit. Add grebro's stats in and they're winning. It's impossible to add UNP's barbs into the stats, but it's safe to assume they've nobled at least 5 mil from him.
But that's not the point.
The point is, 40% of the tribe has been doing 90% of the war ennoblements for a very long time. TSoH has the same problem. Instead of dragging along our collective dead weight until the end of the world, we're going to put our best and most active and aggressive players in one tribe and take on the rest of the world together.
And I'm not worried about the opinion of those who didn't get a mail. Other than xannie and jaffe (who knew about this already), those who didn't get a mail aren't likely to read mails or check forums anyway.
I see that part as sid running from the war with his panties in a bunch with his two man servants which was stupid because now the two enemies are like: WTF?! and are getting along again.
Circular to barons and up
As you are probably aware, I have been in discussions with TSoH about the possibility of forming a megatribe with the best of both of our players. TSoH has approved this plan. Members of both tribes will leave to form a new tribe, for now known as Sharks with Fricken Lasers (from the Austin Powers movie, check it out if you haven't).
Here's an overview of SFL.
30 from AXE, 30 from TSoH, details soon to be available on our forum.
An awesome tribe.
Friday night or Saturday morning, I'm not really sure.
Here's the one that probably has most of you concerned. Or, more specifically, Why Now?
Most of the council members of both tribes have long been concerned with under-activity by many of their members. Both tribes are frequently stuck with sits from players who don't have time to take care of themselves. Both tribes have come to the conclusion that about 40% of the tribe is responsible for about 90% of the war ennoblements. Those in both tribes who are responsible for designing ops against enemies are growing increasingly frustrated with the lack of cooperation. We could have just dumped some of the dead weight from our rosters and carried on...but this just sounded like it would be too much fun to pass up
More fun, less frustration. Good times. Not because we're losing, or out of desperation. Just for fun. Shake things up a bit.
I'm sure you all have many more questions. We'll open a shared forum with tsoh to start talking openly and specifically. This is happening, though.
The name idea is horrible.
AXE - xannash
on 16.01. at 18:19 Quote
Sueco wrote:No we were still talking... had 80% of you voted.. and said leave things alone.. I am sure sid would have.. but we never got that far. You weren't allowed a choice. And I am sorry for that.
That's crap! You weren't even going to ask just start sending invites. Don't give me that crap we've already proven that when you felt the need to leave it private and then just start sending invites...You never had any intention of asking the tribe.
AXE - jaffe25
on 16.01. at 18:36 Quote
No they had already made plans for the merger and it was proceeding. DO i need to go in and pull all of the conversations out of Skype?
Point is the biggest threat to AXE at this moment is not EXILE it is you guys. My job as Duke is to keep the tribe running. If a lesser member had posted this forum about disbanding the tribe and merging they would have been kicked immediately and everyone would have cheered that the traitor is gone. Sid forgot that the tribe comes first. Before him before me before any of us.
Jaffe is right Exile is not the biggest threat when you have traitors like sid trying to recruit people from both sides of the war plus th and tsoh.
AXE - jaffe25
on 16.01. at 20:27 Quote
THe vote was rigged fella which is why i deleted it:
[2:18:15 PM] crysalith: oohh do that.. I'll go vite
[2:18:16 PM] crysalith: vote
[2:18:25 PM] crysalith: with Iva AND future
[2:18:39 PM] crysalith: we have more sits we can vote with. .than he has supporters
^ Says it all crysa (not suprising) sid and ancient tried to cheat to win the vote.
[1/16/2010 11:02:21 PM] S.V.W. (Sid): we weren't losing, and we didn't leave
But yet in the our pf's he said we were losing?mmm contridicting yourself there pal?
[1/16/2010 11:03:41 PM] S.V.W. (Sid): one tribe, no allies, no dead weight (flex)
So you plan on attacking Every tribe in the game at once?Yes i highly doubt that will work out.
[1/16/2010 11:20:12 PM] S.V.W. (Sid): they'll probably make godly again, or just delete
Ohhhh so your going to leave out the other active tsoh members because you dont like them?
I also found something else i think TSOH and EXILE would like to see.
on 28.11. at 20:43 Quote
After a weeks worth of conversations from all sides I have no choice but to conclude that TSoH's recent actions are indeed intended to be hostile. Sherry (willowsmagic) mentioned today that she wondered if our alliance would have been better if we didn't cut them off. That particular incident happened when we recruited TS out of K84 several months ago...which leads me to believe that it has been their plan for a long time to work their way around us and then attack as soon as an opportunity present itself.
Which leads to the poll.
TSoH is not ready for us, so maybe we should attack then now instead of later.
Exile would help TSoH a lot if TSoH declared on us later, so maybe we should just take them out first to even the odds.
Or both, just for the hell of it.
on 28.11. at 23:03 Quote
ill give my reason, although not trying to convince anyone....
I went with Tsoh, but choosing just Exile was a very close 2nd. Reason being?
I do think Tsoh are the strongest and will be the strongest tribe,but with them having to deal with tH at the moment we can give them some real headaches. Also it will make us easier to absorb tH if we need to, as opposed to having to do it part way through an Exile war....
Theres a small chance Exile could stay out, if they remain friends with tH I guess and want to help them....
But i think at the end of the day its a very 50/50 call. We're damned if we choose one and damned if we choose the other.
Esit: I also do NOT think they are planning to attack us until tH is done with, or at least anytime soon. Thats just the impression I got from talking to Sherry and NWG (who is now council) if anything they were paranoid and worried about us attacking them.....
Edited by AncientHoard on 28.11. at 23:05
on 28.11. at 23:18 Quote
Yes, they are paranoid, that's one of the reasons they attacked tH, because they thought tH was trying to recruit DA to go to war with tsoh, which is silly considering they're getting slapped around by NL at the same time. Of course we're probably being paranoid too, at this rate either one of us could declare on the other because we thought the other was about to do it first
on 28.11. at 23:22 Quote
And I just read the bit about PR which is really shitty on jmons behlaf since we're meant to be allies.
I wouldve been pissed if he had been banned.
Edit: Id love to do some pnp in the decleration for these guys, I reckon we could make them look like paranoid rats. Even if someone else posts it....
Thats what your doign your merging with people who wanted to declare war on you?Yes that seems highly likely to work congrats tsoh your trusting sid big mistake.