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To dispell unfavourable rumours...
The password was duly passed, to do 'as we deemed fit'. As he did not have much time to play, a backline account was offered as an alternative. But KT wanted time out, and did not want to play for at least a while. Then came this: (emphasis added)
Still good, right? All hands above the table, nobody hurt... right?
I think that, whatever your opinion about W2V's dastardly leadership, it can not be argued that W2V acted under the table in any way. I think it can also not be argued that this situation is favourable to W2V. Lastly, I think it can not be argued that we were in the wrong here. Regardless of your opinion of W2V, we do whatever we can to play without breaching the system in any way.
(To Orel; I believe I worded it as such to make it legal, if not please contact me for an edit instead of a deletion.)
Note: This topic is not to discuss bans. It is to get the full story out there about what happened to the KT account.
Kingtiger501 said:kingtiger501 on 10.01.2012 at 00:39
Thanks Quote Edit
The time has come to hang up my gloves and call it a day.
The account will be left with W2V and leadership will decide its fate.
I would like to thank W2V for the blast that we had against MOM and all the support that got sent my way. It has by far been my most enjoyable battles on TW even though I was attacked while I had exams and the power supply of my computer shit its self and I could not log on as much as I would of liked.
I wish you the best of luck and but that is not needed, W2V has this world in the bag.
Regards
KT
The password was duly passed, to do 'as we deemed fit'. As he did not have much time to play, a backline account was offered as an alternative. But KT wanted time out, and did not want to play for at least a while. Then came this: (emphasis added)
Kingtiger said:[17-1-2012 10:22:06] kingtiger_501: Why was the PW changed on my account?
[17-1-2012 10:49:28] Ralyn: Because LL had to change accounts, and you can't know the passwords for two accounts.
[17-1-2012 10:50:05] kingtiger_501: could he please forward it to me please
[17-1-2012 10:50:22] Ralyn: Why?
[17-1-2012 10:50:41] kingtiger_501: I would like it
[17-1-2012 10:50:54] Ralyn: Obviously. Are you going to play, or are you quitting?
[17-1-2012 10:51:53] kingtiger_501: I dont plan on playing. I would like to be able to pop on my account now and then to see the world
[17-1-2012 10:54:17] Ralyn: Quickest way is http://en56.tribalwars.net/guest.php
[17-1-2012 10:56:15] Ralyn: If you really want the login I'll mail LL for you, but you won't be able to return on a different account that way. I gave LL the account on the premise that he would (be able to) play alone, and that if you wanted a backseat role you would be able to take a backline account.
[17-1-2012 11:05:33] kingtiger_501: I have not decided on your offer as of yet. Could you please inform me on my options please?
[17-1-2012 11:05:48] Ralyn: The options of accounts you could take, you mean?
[17-1-2012 11:05:54] kingtiger_501: yes sir
[17-1-2012 11:08:26] Ralyn: [censored]
[17-1-2012 11:10:15] kingtiger_501: Ok, I will let you know in 1 week
[17-1-2012 11:10:45] kingtiger_501: I want to play but afraid I will get hooked again and play too much
[17-1-2012 11:10:55] Ralyn: Sure, take a while to think about it.
[17-1-2012 11:11:30] kingtiger_501: GN, talk to you soon
[17-1-2012 11:13:37] Ralyn: Have a good one
Still good, right? All hands above the table, nobody hurt... right?
Perhaps I was more temperamental than would have been ideal, but hey, KT had been with us for a long time, we had defended his account from thousands of incomings, catapulted him to #1 ODD, enabled him to survive repeated onslaughts, cut a deal with [T] for them to stop their Op... And he had quit. As such, (and per the rules) we had a new owner who was doing well when KT randomly wanted to look in. We asked him to delay his request, or alternatively take up a backline acc and look through sitting.Kingtiger said:[24-1-2012 12:32:45] kingtiger_501: Hi mate, please forward me the PW for my account, thanks.
[24-1-2012 20:57:49] kingtiger_501: you there mate?
[24-1-2012 21:37:15] Ralyn: Heya
[24-1-2012 21:37:17] Ralyn: I am yeah, what's up?
[24-1-2012 21:38:28] kingtiger_501: Whats the PW for my account?
[24-1-2012 21:43:47] Ralyn: I have no idea, LL has it
[24-1-2012 21:43:51] Ralyn: You coming back then?
[24-1-2012 21:56:27] kingtiger_501: nope
[24-1-2012 21:56:44] kingtiger_501: who is LL?
[24-1-2012 21:57:53] Ralyn: LivnLarge.
[24-1-2012 21:58:01] Ralyn: You're not coming back, but still want your account?
[24-1-2012 21:58:38] kingtiger_501: Nope, I want to just pop in now and then and look at the account
[24-1-2012 21:59:03] Ralyn: To be honest, we're at war
[24-1-2012 21:59:11] Ralyn: Your account is currently hovering around 4000 incomings.
[24-1-2012 21:59:23] Ralyn: Please use the guest-login or delay your request a bit.
[24-1-2012 22:02:00] kingtiger_501: The time, effort and money I have put into the account I found your response insulting. Have I not proved my loyalty and that I am a trusty worthy person. your actions are leaving a very sour taste in my mouth
[24-1-2012 22:02:23] Ralyn: I'm not talking about your damned loyalty
[24-1-2012 22:02:44] Ralyn: I'm talking about the fact that you want to log in on an acc during war, without doing any work, while the rest of us are working hard at defending the damn thing.
[24-1-2012 22:03:33] Ralyn: You wanted to quit, so you quit. You can't have other people run it and willy nilly kick them off to 'see how it's going', that is insulting to the people who are out there tagging and sniping.
[24-1-2012 22:03:44] Ralyn: If you want back in, get back in. If you want to quit, quit.
[24-1-2012 22:04:12] Ralyn: If you want the pass, I'll mail livnLarge for you, but don't tell me I'm being insulting because I consider what's best for the tribe and not what's best for you.
[24-1-2012 22:09:41] kingtiger_501: Thankyou for your time, I now know what I am dealing with.
[24-1-2012 22:16:26] Ralyn: Alright, let me know if you want to come back or want to peek at a time the acc isn't getting battered. Cheers.
Yes, he said, that would be acceptable. All solved, right? Some ruffled feathers here and there (in my opinion for little reason, but some people are simply quick to be insulted)...kingtiger501 said:[6:12:50 PM] kingtiger_501: I just thought of a idea
[6:12:54 PM] James Clarke: Hmm?
[6:13:57 PM] kingtiger_501: My objective is to look at the account9and to have control of the account if I decide to play another world but I cant see this happening for some time?
[6:14:25 PM] James Clarke: Go on..
[6:14:34 PM] kingtiger_501: I could be on another account and get the sit for 5 min a week
[6:14:40 PM] James Clarke: (y)
[6:14:55 PM] James Clarke: We DO have other accts. available.
[6:14:59 PM] James Clarke: Some frontline some backline.
[6:15:47 PM] kingtiger_501: I want to play but chose not too as I am applying for jobs where there is no internet connection
[6:16:13 PM] kingtiger_501: I am trying to work in the mines
[6:16:38 PM] James Clarke: A dangerous job in any country.
[6:16:45 PM] James Clarke: I wish you safe working.
[6:16:56 PM] kingtiger_501: Thankyou, I hope I get in
[6:17:10 PM] James Clarke: Well.
[6:17:19 PM] James Clarke: We can certainly get you on a backline acct.
[6:17:43 PM] James Clarke: So it'd not detract too much time.
[6:17:46 PM] James Clarke: From studies and work.
[6:17:52 PM] James Clarke: And would require minimal logging in.
[6:18:01 PM] kingtiger_501: 30 min a day?
[6:18:07 PM] James Clarke: Works.
Lo and behold, he uses what I shall refer to as the Bobby-System to overturn the acc's change of owner (pass + email, both of which were already changed in accordance to the system and the cancel-period expired) to get the acc back, and leaves W2V. To quote the earlier link:kingtiger501 said:[25-1-2012 23:09:24] kingtiger_501: The lack of respect shown from W2V leadership will no longer be tolerated. Piss poor decisions gets piss poor results. This is something that you have brought onto yourselfs.
rules said:Important: If you give away your account it no longer belongs to you. If you change your mind later on and try to reclaim control of the account this will be treated as illegal entry to an account.
I think that, whatever your opinion about W2V's dastardly leadership, it can not be argued that W2V acted under the table in any way. I think it can also not be argued that this situation is favourable to W2V. Lastly, I think it can not be argued that we were in the wrong here. Regardless of your opinion of W2V, we do whatever we can to play without breaching the system in any way.
(To Orel; I believe I worded it as such to make it legal, if not please contact me for an edit instead of a deletion.)
Note: This topic is not to discuss bans. It is to get the full story out there about what happened to the KT account.
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