Why DNY won this world so early on

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

sean5500 said:
I'm not jealous as there is nothing to be jealous of. It's one less world to compete with to be the first world to have one tribe controlling everything through nobling.

Then explain why you are here?

The fact DNY has a ridiculous amount of barb caputures. Only 4 non-barb villages took out of your last 300 villages. 296 barbs in your last 300 caps that would be. Not a very good record but what can you do when the world is full of barbs. All the big players quit early on and since then the world has always had more barbs than any other worlds.

Lets look at your ennoblement record on W10:

Village Points Old Owner New Owner Date/Time
Barbarian village (607|794) K76 9,458 sean5500 [TTK-A] sean5500 [TTK-A] 2008-01-03 22:32:53
k87 (729|818) K87 662 Abandoned sean5500 [TTK-A] 2007-12-28 00:37:27
Barbarian village (701|822) K87 845 ruddy9hell [T.P.S] sean5500 [TTK-A] 2007-12-14 14:28:58
76.140 (610|789) K76 83 Abandoned sean5500 [TTK-A] 2007-11-25 16:35:20
76.142 (610|790) K76 81 Abandoned sean5500 [TTK-A] 2007-11-24 18:21:03
Barbarian village (607|794) K76 2,763 Senni [bsb] sean5500 [TTK] 2007-11-06 00:45:43

Wow, you did not just noble barbs you nobled baby barbs! :icon_eek:

Now lets compare the No Tribe ennoblements of the top tribes of W9, W10, and W12

DNY

Total ennoblements - 145,964
Non Tribe Ennoblements - 47,203
Percentage - 32%

DNS

Total ennoblements - 182,656
Non Tribe Ennoblements - 60,477
Percentage - 33%

CTRL

Total ennoblements - 144,149
Non Tribe Ennoblements - 63,893
Percentage - 44%

The barbs I let the tribe take at the end were to get rid of unused nobles since there were no other non DNY players left to noble. Nice try!

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

The Handyman said:
Haters gonna hate...

What stays down is that DNY was the first tribe to achieve 100% domination and close the world...
enough said.

Have you been reading? Nobody has denied you are the first tribe to achieve 100% of the non-barb villages in a world. However, that's not what this thread is a discussion for.

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

sean5500 said:
I never claimed I would be. I have no intentions of sticking round until the end of a world. It gets to a point where you have beaten everything and it is just one tribe giving their last stand with maybe 3 or 4 continent cluster. Never happened on this world or they would have just got recruited.

It did to happen on this world. After we defeated FEMA there was nothing left and many of our top players did quit. W12 became nothing more than a cleanup operation at the end. We defeated the remaining players and we did not recruit players to just get the world finished. Which is why we finished with 61 players instead of the alloted 100. Had I wanted to just end the world I would have recruited everyone at the end and called it a day. But instead we decided to kill those barb eaters and that is exactly what we did.

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

@ Rednecks. That world 10 record was not me playing to play the game. I was playing to help out a friend run his tribe then quitting. KiamCameron I think his name was. We worked together leading but I didn't play properly. I played in a premade in world 12, I played world 1 (a world almost as inactive as this) and I played world 24.

Morthy said:
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The position of first has already been taken. Feel free to aim for second place though.

DNY were the first tribe to get 100% of non-barb villages. But a third of their caps were non-tribed villages and the tribes they were attacking were mainly already inactive.

I want to see a world were a tribe actually dominated another active tribe when it is 2 big tribes left. Anyone can noble inactives and barbs.

The Handyman · Sep 25, 2010

sean5500 said:
Have you been reading? Nobody has denied you are the first tribe to achieve 100% of the non-barb villages in a world. However, that's not what this thread is a discussion for.

It seems you havent been reading...

here is what you wrote:

sean5500 said:
We still wait for the first tribe to win a world. You were just the last bunch of players playing on an inactive world.

Sorry to disappoint you but DNY already won the world

Now go away from our forums...

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

Morthy said:
Sorry, I should have been more clear. The position of first has already been taken. Feel free to aim for second place though.

Rednecks said:
It did to happen on this world. After we defeated FEMA there was nothing left and many of our top players did quit. W12 became nothing more than a cleanup operation at the end. We defeated the remaining players and we did not recruit players to just get the world finished. Which is why we finished with 61 players instead of the alloted 100. Had I wanted to just end the world I would have recruited everyone at the end and called it a day. But instead we decided to kill those barb eaters and that is exactly what we did.

Your strongest competitors had 281,086,716 points? That shows what a walkover this world was. There are worlds were there are tribes both over a bill in points fighting it out to win. 281mill seems nothing compared to that. Still, well done on beating them. Most of them seemed to have turned barb rather than get nobled out by you, although you can't help that for such a small tribe as your main rival no wonder you won so quick.

twenty-five · Sep 25, 2010

Rednecks said:
lmao, so we got our headstart due to barbs? :lol:

The amount of tribe changes are high mainly due to the fact the coduke of DNY broke away for a while and created a different tribe to clean up the world. We recruited them back once he accomplished what he needed to do. Besides, the high amount of tribe changes only applies to mass recruiting tribes at the beginning of a world not a tribe that has been around for 2 1/2 years.

Go find yourself a tribe on a world, recruit your elite players, and attempt to finish the world with the original roster. Do not recruit your spoils of war and do not recruit from your alliances. See how long you last. :lol:

Hmm thought this was the best post to quote, not sure though. Anyway 301 players (if my numbers are correct) spent time in DNY, that is nearly 5 times how many you finished with. Of course they left for various reasons and I'm not saying it is either a negative or positive thing, before somebody starts defending their tribe :icon_razz:, just stating the raw numbers for you people to argue about.

sean5500 said:
Your strongest competitors had 281,086,716 points? That shows what a walkover this world was. There are worlds were there are tribes both over a bill in points fighting it out to win. 281mill seems nothing compared to that. Still, well done on beating them. Most of them seemed to have turned barb rather than get nobled out by you, although you can't help that for such a small tribe as your main rival no wonder you won so quick.

I'm sorry but did you fail to read his post? To me it suggested their last worthwhile enemy was FEMA, not that their strongest enemy was FEMA.

Ray Joakim · Sep 25, 2010

sean5500 said:
Your strongest competitors had 281,086,716 points? That shows what a walkover this world was. There are worlds were there are tribes both over a bill in points fighting it out to win. 281mill seems nothing compared to that. Still, well done on beating them. Most of them seemed to have turned barb rather than get nobled out by you, although you can't help that for such a small tribe as your main rival no wonder you won so quick.

We fought ADE, who were 1.5x our size when we fought them. We fought the entire world at once. You're so ignorant, a typical jealous w10 player.

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

You know who would love this argument? Mr. Blonde. He'd have a field day with these guys.

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

Our strongest enemy was Oots and we were evenly matched when you compared size. We were going back and forth with them for #1 for quite a while before we went to war.

BTW, FEMA was bigger than us at the time we declared on them. They were a family tribe that we faught along with B-SW, who was yet another family tribe. Throughout the history of our world we were always at war with tribes that either matched our size or were bigger than us. We felt warring small tribes was boring.

We had some of the greatest fighters in the history of tribalwars playing in DNY. We have taken what we have done here and duplicated it on other worlds. W41 was a world we used the model we created with DNY and we dominated that world and left on our terms. The leader of the current dominating tribe was a DNY player. We have a number of DNY players on W50 dominating on that world. I am currently leading a small tribe on W51 as Red Swimmer with a great deal of success. There are a number of us joining a premade on W53 if it has the settings we are looking for. Expect us to dominate that world also. We have repeated our success over and over not just on W12 but on other worlds. Yes, we DOMINATED this world and many times we knocked tribes out before they even had a chance to get a decent op going against us, which effected our ODD. I doubt you will ever see a tribe dominate another world in the way that we dominated it. We did not just defeat tribes, we crushed them. At the end of the war we took our spoils. Our warriors could not stand eating on defeated players so we took the best and moved on to the next war.

Go read the history of our world, it is stickied.

DeletedUser · Sep 25, 2010

When you get close to the end of the game. Tw most of the time put a barb nobling block. However, clearly this world did not receive a block. Maybe this is because the world ended so rapidly.

Im just saying that your competitors were not as skilled as you. You guys probably recruited the semi best players at the start. And perhaps gotten a few along the way. (a few means <10) i dno any tribe that hasnt.

Im saying that you guys would have lasted longer if you had played against different players. More skilled than the last. quantity of opponents is nothing. One of my friends, for jokes, left his tribe, and nobled more from his tribe than his tribe did from him. on a different world. on w7, there was this one tribe. TFB. centre of the world, pretty much surrounded. declared on everybody. And grew. This was 100mil tribe, made up for 10 or so players. this was a while ago btw. what they lacked in numbers, they pretty much made up for with coordinateion, and skill. One of the leaders of TFB is Lazeruus, still playing if you want to check him out

that world is getting close to finishing as well. look at maps. Last major merge that they had was about 2 years ago. i quit a year ago. They control the western side of the world totally. cept for a few villages here and there. and they declared war on the other half. I have talked to multiple people. There are several active members in the last 2 tribes remaining. but then it just gets boring cos they have half a world to make defensive and stack. and yet they are still nobling a LOT.

this is the world that I would have played on. but my acc got deleted

hackers ;(

One thing I would absolutely LOVE. is a map, on every month since the world started. If someone showed me those maps, and proved that DNY was gradually conquering, i promise to shut the hell up and leave

twenty-five · Sep 25, 2010

dxn99 said:
When you get close to the end of the game. Tw most of the time put a barb nobling block. However, clearly this world did not receive a block. Maybe this is because the world ended so rapidly.

Never heard of this before.

Im just saying that your competitors were not as skilled as you. You guys probably recruited the semi best players at the start. And perhaps gotten a few along the way. (a few means <10) i dno any tribe that hasnt.

The bolded is surely true of any victors in any war game...

Im saying that you guys would have lasted longer if you had played against different players. More skilled than the last. quantity of opponents is nothing. One of my friends, for jokes, left his tribe, and nobled more from his tribe than his tribe did from him. on a different world. on w7, there was this one tribe. TFB. centre of the world, pretty much surrounded. declared on everybody. And grew. This was 100mil tribe, made up for 10 or so players. this was a while ago btw. what they lacked in numbers, they pretty much made up for with coordinateion, and skill. One of the leaders of TFB is Lazeruus, still playing if you want to check him out that world is getting close to finishing as well. look at maps. Last major merge that they had was about 2 years ago. i quit a year ago. They control the western side of the world totally. cept for a few villages here and there. and they declared war on the other half. I have talked to multiple people. There are several active members in the last 2 tribes remaining. but then it just gets boring cos they have half a world to make defensive and stack. and yet they are still nobling a LOT.

this is the world that I would have played on. but my acc got deleted hackers ;(

One thing I would absolutely LOVE. is a map, on every month since the world started. If someone showed me those maps, and proved that DNY was gradually conquering, i promise to shut the hell up and leave

DeletedUser67005 · Sep 26, 2010

More DNY bashers. Is it so hard to admit the fact that DNY is the first tribe to win?

dxn99 said:
Im saying that you guys would have lasted longer if you had played against different players. More skilled than the last.

W12 was full of skilled players. (alot in DNY, tons outside of DNY) CCE, FEMA, BSW, Oots... All these tribes had great players.

W10/W9 were no different. Sure, they obviously had different players, but skill is the same in pretty much all worlds. This isn't the first time W12 was accused of being "a noob world". :icon_rolleyes:

Those who come here throwing around accusations of "how bad DNY is", "DNY noble barbs" and so on look like idiots to me.

DeletedUser · Sep 26, 2010

dxn99 said:
When you get close to the end of the game. Tw most of the time put a barb nobling block. However, clearly this world did not receive a block. Maybe this is because the world ended so rapidly.

Im just saying that your competitors were not as skilled as you. You guys probably recruited the semi best players at the start. And perhaps gotten a few along the way. (a few means <10) i dno any tribe that hasnt.

Im saying that you guys would have lasted longer if you had played against different players. More skilled than the last. quantity of opponents is nothing. One of my friends, for jokes, left his tribe, and nobled more from his tribe than his tribe did from him. on a different world. on w7, there was this one tribe. TFB. centre of the world, pretty much surrounded. declared on everybody. And grew. This was 100mil tribe, made up for 10 or so players. this was a while ago btw. what they lacked in numbers, they pretty much made up for with coordinateion, and skill. One of the leaders of TFB is Lazeruus, still playing if you want to check him out that world is getting close to finishing as well. look at maps. Last major merge that they had was about 2 years ago. i quit a year ago. They control the western side of the world totally. cept for a few villages here and there. and they declared war on the other half. I have talked to multiple people. There are several active members in the last 2 tribes remaining. but then it just gets boring cos they have half a world to make defensive and stack. and yet they are still nobling a LOT.

this is the world that I would have played on. but my acc got deleted hackers ;(

One thing I would absolutely LOVE. is a map, on every month since the world started. If someone showed me those maps, and proved that DNY was gradually conquering, i promise to shut the hell up and leave

Just before i post, i dont play W12 but came here when i saw it had been ended. Nice work to DNY for that.
Dxn99, you are speaking utter rubbish. The feeling im getting from your post is DNY doesn't deserve to be praised as they were better than all their opponents which as far as i can see it is one of the main reasons they should be praised. Also your example from W7 (a world i did play on), TFB were between 30-40 players (not too sure where 10 came from). Also when they (the tribe TFB became when they merged) declared on the last remaining tribe they already had more points and had proven they were superior players not any of this 2 huge sides. Everyone who played W7 had a pretty good idea of who would win before it started. They did well for much the same reasons DNY did. As they were much better than their opponents. However TFB merged as they were loosing because they did not recruit enough players so when someone quit it was a big problem and they're activity dropped and they went against another skilled tribe who they eventually merged into.
Most tribes have to recruit the best players (if they can) from their enemies as they need to replace either their own rimmed players or players who have left. Also why let the skilled players leave when they could be valuable players for you in your next war.

DeletedUser · Sep 26, 2010

10 was a complete typo, and for that i apologize. my fingers are evil!

I was talking about the period between the time of making and the part before the merge that would make WE. They were doing well upto a point. Very well put against other leading tribes [WE,PTT,cant really remember atm] (played it like a year ago). At one point, players couldnt keep it up, but that was a good time AFTER the peak time in which TFB were thriving. This then turned into a meeting of the leaders, and then the merge took place. After the merge, they conquered the entire west.

DeletedUser67005 · Sep 26, 2010

sean5500 said:
It is true CTRL where a better tribe than you

Lmao, thats why they are still around.

sean5500 said:
nobody denies that but at the end of the day CTRL had harder competition.

Yeah, alot of people denied that. It has been deemed impossible to compare tribes from two separate worlds, too many factors to take into account, players were different, different circumstances...

DeletedUser · Sep 26, 2010

dxn99 said:
10 was a complete typo, and for that i apologize. my fingers are evil!

I was talking about the period between the time of making and the part before the merge that would make WE. They were doing well upto a point. Very well put against other leading tribes [WE,PTT,cant really remember atm] (played it like a year ago). At one point, players couldnt keep it up, but that was a good time AFTER the peak time in which TFB were thriving. This then turned into a meeting of the leaders, and then the merge took place. After the merge, they conquered the entire west.

lmao, you accusing us of being a mass recruiting tribe is like a pot calling a kettle black. :lol:

I was wondering what ever happened to WE as they were the dominating tribe on W9 for a long time.

sean5500 said:
I'm sure someone else used the exact phrase about Jealous world 10 player. I answered then as I answer now. I am not jealous and I have only played world 10 for a month. It is true CTRL where a better tribe than you nobody denies that but at the end of the day CTRL had harder competition.

In no means am I jealous. I would rather win a world playing tribalwars than win a world playing tribalhugs. In fact, I'd rather not win any world than a world playing tribalhugs so I am the opposite of jealous and you're just full of yourself thinking you are great for winning an inactive world.

CTRL was NOT a better tribe than DNY. They bored themselves into inactivity and eventually died while we finished our job. CTRL banged on the frontlines not wanting to take the time into nobling deep into enemy territory. Go look at our top player map you will see DNY nobled anyone anywhere at any distance. While CTRL built massive clusters, they relied heavily on their backline players to do the heavy nuking while the frontline players nobled. We would hit the frontlines to draw the support up and then go deep forcing the enemy to scramble. A tactic we repeated on W41 that knocked out the number 1 tribe on that world. A continent blitz that newer worlds use was created by me in DNY. We would split a continent into 16 pieces and a player or 2 would be responsible for each section. We used to have continents on w12 that on a map looked like quilts. Show me where CTRL did this to an enemy tribe.

There is a reason why DNY dominated so quickly, everyone was involved and we were always in a war. We did not take time to rest and eat inactives, barbs, or spoils.

DeletedUser · Sep 26, 2010

http://en12.twmaps.org/archive/1277531525
http://en12.twmaps.org/archive/1277617949

Check those 2 where DNY managed to get a continent and a half of villages in one day, well done DNY. (far right middle)

http://en12.twmaps.org/archive/1268790916
http://en12.twmaps.org/archive/1269309414

Far more impressive. DNY manage to take around 15 continents in a few days.

I could keep going. But there we go.

DeletedUser67005 · Sep 26, 2010

DNY recruited players formerly in DNY. I don't know what really went down, but if you looked at the thread on W10, all the answers are there, as much as the likes of you would deny them.

DeletedUser · Sep 26, 2010

Rednecks said:
lmao, you accusing us of being a mass recruiting tribe is like a pot calling a kettle black. :lol:

I was wondering what ever happened to WE as they were the dominating tribe on W9 for a long time.

He is referring to -WE- on W7 who are currently dominating and unless anything goes badly wrong will finish the world fairly soon.

Why DNY won this world so early on

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