S1cky Dutch
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When Raven was playing Mberns, he was also fighting against us, believe it or not. When raven sat Chipley(thought he was) He was fighting against us, I know because he told me after my failed noble attempts in 66
When Raven was playing Mberns, he was also fighting against us, believe it or not. When raven sat Chipley(thought he was) He was fighting against us, I know because he told me after my failed noble attempts in 66
Hmmm, well what about the screen shots we have of Phx sitting HG accounts?
How would you know if I'm sitting anything if you have nobody inside spying or planning on recruiting?
@ cy: Ramhad only three leaders, Shipley, karma and nbd. The rest of us were barons.
Also smurks, I never attacked you from killbow account. So what are you talking about?
Phoenx having sits in =H==G= can be very easily explained. As Your sidekick Smurks pointed out recently, NBD left the tribe with 4 or so sits. I also had one for a while. These sits were of inactive accounts. But then again, I have never known you to be someone to try and understand somebody else's point of view. I'm sure that you would twist it into whatever you wanted to get out of it anyways...
It's funny that Smurks has been claiming to be so loyal to his tribe yet his sitter is/was from an enemy tribe... Hmmm :icon_redface:
Phoenx having sits in =H==G= can be very easily explained. As Your sidekick Smurks pointed out recently, NBD left the tribe with 4 or so sits. I also had one for a while. These sits were of inactive accounts. But then again, I have never known you to be someone to try and understand somebody else's point of view. I'm sure that you would twist it into whatever you wanted to get out of it anyways...
It's funny that Smurks has been claiming to be so loyal to his tribe yet his sitter is/was from an enemy tribe... Hmmm :icon_redface:
Phoenx having sits in =H==G= can be very easily explained. As Your sidekick Smurks pointed out recently, NBD left the tribe with 4 or so sits. I also had one for a while. These sits were of inactive accounts. But then again, I have never known you to be someone to try and understand somebody else's point of view. I'm sure that you would twist it into whatever you wanted to get out of it anyways...
It's funny that Smurks has been claiming to be so loyal to his tribe yet his sitter is/was from an enemy tribe... Hmmm :icon_redface:
§3) Account sitting
Account sitting is a temporary way to watch someone's account while they cannot log in. While a player is account sitting for another player, no interactions or co-ordination is allowed between any accounts on the account sitter's internet connection, and for a period of 24 hours after the sitting has been ended or transferred. This includes all accounts being account sat by players on that connection.
It is not allowed to sit an account and use it just to push other accounts. Accounts that are clearly used as push accounts in this way will be banned.
Players and sitters are equally responsible for the actions of any sat account. Make sure you can trust the person you choose as sitter or whose account you are sitting.
A sat account must be played for their own benefit. It is not allowed to abuse account sitting. Account sitters that intentionally destroy or seriously damage an account they are sitting will be punished.
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Accounts being sat are temporarily sharing a connection with the sitter and other accounts on the account sitter's connection. Therefore, everything stated in rule 2 must be followed.
Examples:
- It is allowed for you to attack and conquer villages with the account you are account sitting.
- It is never allowed to send resources to another player from any account you are sitting.
- You are not allowed to write to a player to find out if they are online on behalf of another account on the same connection.
- It is not allowed to use an account in any way that profits another account on the same connection.
- An account sitter may not attack or support the same player from his own account and from the account he is sitting as long as sitting is active. This is illegal even if there is more than 24 hours between the attacks. The same player may only be attacked when sitting has been ended for at least 24 hours.
- Accounts being sat by the same player are not allowed to interact or coordinate, while the account sitting is active, and for 24 hours after.
- It is not allowed to attack, support or send resources to any account that is sat by someone on your internet connection.
- It is forbidden to pass on troop or building information about an account you are sitting.
Dead accounts dont complain as u can imagine that too
I would think the appropriate thing to do would be to return those sits the the tribe you are fleeing instead of using these accoutns to screw HG... Do you guys really need to go that low?
How do you think SFC got irock account???
Didn't know about Dinglenuts so can't comment on it.
Hmmm, well what about the screen shots we have of Phx sitting HG accounts? What about Raven playing Mberns for a while? How would you know if I'm sitting anything if you have nobody inside spying or planning on recruiting? What about your plans to recruit in Loen? What about the list NBD sent for recruiting HG members? Can't you see why we have lost trust on our ally?
You were never transparent in your plans and we were always.
We can see why all of a sudden you are praising Decide members. Even though it is accurate and well deserved, it's really easy to see why NOW you have changed tone on a certain part of our tribe. :icon_wink:
I never twist things. I have some shots of Dinglenuts sitting at least one as well. :icon_wink:
I would think the appropriate thing to do would be to return those sits the the tribe you are fleeing instead of using these accoutns to screw HG... Do you guys really need to go that low?
Hmmm, well what about the screen shots we have of Phx sitting HG accounts? What about Raven playing Mberns for a while?
I do not deny playing mberns for a couple or 3 months, right before Christmas. At the time, my contract with Phoenix was up, and I was looking for another tribe to play for. During that time, I also sat Shipley. I sniped/blocked/recapped more vs Phoenix, than BH. Specifically against r2d3, who gave me permission to sit Shipley and fight against him (Yeah, I have C&P of that convo, too, if anyone wants it. It's not nearly as amusing as the 100-inappropriate-word convo when r2 decided he didn't want me sitting Shipley anymore ; )
Mostly what I did with the mberns account was the fight Niklam, who I'd heard described as one of BH's best. Having had some personal experience now, I would have to agree. That was a fun fight, and he's definitely one of the better players I've had the chance to cross swords with on W30. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to go up against him again, if things ever reach the point where BH is painted red on our maps.
So, to anyone who says that Phoenix doesn't give BH credit, I'll be one of the ones (as an actual Phoenix member now, not just a mercenary anymore) who says that BH has some excellent players who fought against RAM. Niklam, Onny, LittleDragon, Cece, Noob/Renegade, all were very active and thorough, from what I saw. I also remember working with BigBrt when he was sitting a Phoenix account to attack RAM and being very impressed with his handiwork.
There's a lot of mud being slung around the PnP right now, and I doubt all of it is justified. I do know, however, that some tribes are much better at backing their threats and loud-mouthed posturing than others, and I'm confident I am in the right place to be, when (if?) push finally comes to shove.
Hiram sitting:
Account sitter Start End
RenegadeRecon on 23.02.2012 at 02:50 on 23.02.2012 at 21:16
RenegadeRecon on 22.02.2012 at 02:24 on 22.02.2012 at 23:53
RenegadeRecon on 21.02.2012 at 12:31 on 21.02.2012 at 21:48
RenegadeRecon on 21.02.2012 at 00:23 on 21.02.2012 at 04:28
RenegadeRecon on 20.02.2012 at 22:54 on 20.02.2012 at 23:39
RenegadeRecon on 19.02.2012 at 03:26 on 19.02.2012 at 06:16
RenegadeRecon on 18.02.2012 at 21:55 on 19.02.2012 at 03:19
RenegadeRecon on 18.02.2012 at 18:20 on 18.02.2012 at 20:21
RenegadeRecon on 17.02.2012 at 01:53 on 18.02.2012 at 16:56
RenegadeRecon on 14.02.2012 at 23:44 on 17.02.2012 at 00:26
i dont know how to post a screen shot yet.. But this is proof enough for me that Noob is doing everything he can against Phoenx, while we continue to ignore the mass recruiting Huggers. (further prooof of more hugging, sitting accounts under fire. How cute.. )
It will sound like typical pnp nonsense because we are both now in BH (and noob can well speak for himself), but it is a gross distortion of the truth to paint the way that noob left RAM with how others have fled RAM (or other losing tribes). The only common elements are: 1. RAM was at war and 2. A player left.
noobaxes left on a matter of principal. He was in RAM, part of the RAM leadership and he tried to dissuade them from a course he deemed to be totally wrong for political, tactical and moral reasons making RAM doomed to fail. Being that RAM's treatment of DECIDE was at the center of this dispute and I was a duke of DECIDE it was a question I think everyone agrees that I took a keen interest in. Hey, even I saved some of the skype pastes from all RAM leaders concerned! When he felt he had exhausted all his avenues to change RAM's course to no avail, he took the high road and left the tribe. He didn't do it to save his neck. He did it because he was against what RAM was doing. When he left RAM, I think he pretty much knew he was assuring the destruction of the noobaxes account. One against RAM wasn't going to last. Yes, there was a flurry of a few players that followed him, but he didn't punch out on Day 1 with 5 other accounts just as an op was hitting RAM and pull all his frontline support. He didn't leave RAM because he was afraid to fight. He didn't leave and join another tribe because RAM was losing (because they weren't--YET). He didn't wait until things were on a clear downhill slide and then desert the sinking ship. So, from all I know, his glass house is pretty dammed bulletproof.
Until all this recent slinging of mud here,noobaxes was clearly one of the most respected players in W30 to date--for both his playing-skills and actions. Here on the pnp half-truths and lies get repeated often enough and some people think they are truth. All the mud thrown at him for his action regarding RAM are most unjustified.