Just put in you mind jasper and GT dont know if you can handle this but we will give it a go.
1) who made the decision to recruit an entire family tribe? Answer is Apathy
2)Did you think even your allies would be that stupid to just sit there while you own nearly half the world if we did nothing?
3) you still wanted us to hit corp when you took in everyone from both tribes of becool and becalm.
4) you can say we are stupid or silly for want to hit a tribe thag was supporting our allies but can i ask something, were they allies with RJ/TW at the time? Answer is No (the nap ended after two weeks)
5) why wouldnt we hit becool/becalm when we had no relations with them? just because 1 player from becool is supporting you doesnt mean there whole tribe is. So your argument saying why would an ally hit our ally when they are supporting us. (Its just 1 player) even you yourself GT and jasper answered that.
6) would you or would you not have a major advantage if you took in becool and RJ still hit corp? You would own nearly more than half the world and RJ would of been screwed.
7) also the whole world should know this also lol jasper came to TW (us) to get us to turn against our ally which was corp or they would join corp. I acctually didnt think corp would go for it but i was shocked they did lol. Also more shocked more apathy members wanted to join corp and their family.
Also the world needs to know that jasper probably would of kicked becool members if RJ asked to him to.
So i dont really think jasper is a trust worthy type.
But im more shocked that jasper and other apathy members gave up so easily when they had still a good position. And used to talk so much crap about corp lol. But hey theres always the excuse i wanted to try and get my players into a world win so we pushed for a world win and left our players behind and calling them food just for a win lol. Theres others world just because one doesnt work out and you on desperate need for a win doesnt mean you treat your ex tribe members like crap.
Finally you can call it RJ backstabbed apathy, but we both backstabbed each other with the moves each tribe made at that time. Its on both tribes fault that it fell apart. But you wont see it like that and will carry on playing the victim.
Sorry for any bad spelling writing on phone and thumbs are pretty big
Thank you for reading this long post