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Alright I can go with that just because I don't know about SubV history plus I think we have come to an understanding anyway
But when someone say "you get most of your growth by recruiting and we get ours by nobling and a very small amount of recruiting",I have to came here and to start arguing cause it will be finished very quick...
Brave! doesn't earn points by nobling:
http://www.twstats.com/en48/index.php?page=achievements&display=tennoblewin
http://map.k-io.com/maps/48/topnoblers.png
:icon_idea: Oh almost to forget if you want to see how -XIII- doing about nobling check same links,but I will give you hint go from bottom,it is easier...
em is this entirely true?
ur going for the rim attacking SHinobi (just like brave! going for the rim)
u have a big tribe next 2 u PIRANA(u can claim them noobs but....? just like BRAVE! has SUBV next 2 them)
ur nobling tribes that are noobs and a lot smaller(just like BRAVE!)
situacion might be diffrent but....? ur acting the same way
I just wanted to point out that, as leagaldeath already mentioned, people quit/get kicked/leave; so these pictures show our growth a little better.
and no ur not all bad but it seems some of ur memebrs think they can take on the world...
1-they say BDE is easy for -XIII- (understandable why u think so)
2-they say u can take on EQU icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek: please tell me why)
3- now ur memebrs say that they are better than BRAVE!:icon_eek:
so my question is....
why dont u add EB-GBS and SUBV 2 that list while were at it??
no ur not all bad nuketech.....well at keast u arent
but it seems most of the bad ones post here...
i would also like to see XIII vs Khaos, not coz i want to attack them but i can imagine the mail conversations. they would be epic!!
Who would win?
XIII of course, Khaos are teh nublets! We would let LK44 in and maybe king zen then move on 2 take SYN and EB-GB's. Easy as pie ^.^
maybe a -XIII- VS. Rogue, Khaos and the -COTA- family. from how nuke represents himself he thinks he can push through syn and us with ease so that shouldnt be a problematic war for them :icon_wink:
hahaha easy! throw in DIE/PIRANA too that way we can pwn on all 4 fronts ^.^
that way once we noble out PIRANA we can push thru SubV and onto Brave too
Hey Dippy Lou Lou, I compared 1 month stats so why your using 1 week stats to argue for you is pointless as we were looking at the larger picture.
all Brave! do is pretty much recruit refuges and try to b the big man by barking orders.
unfortunatly as most tribes Refugee's will still be hunted down.
all brave! Do is pretty much recruit refuges and try to b the big man by barking orders.
Unfortunatly as most tribes refugee's will still be hunted down.
[spoil]side 1:
tribes: Shock
side 2:
tribes: Brave!
timeframe: forever
total conquers against opposite side:
side 1: 2
side 2: 1
difference: 1
points value of total conquers against opposite side:
side 1: 18,651
side 2: 8,610
difference: 10,041
[/spoil]
not the best i know but meh thought i would post it.
False. When -XIII- started on -COTA- F. They were larger. When -XIII- started on SHNOBI F. they were chasing refugees so that argument is null by default.
em is this entirely true?
ur going for the rim attacking SHinobi (just like brave! going for the rim)
u have a big tribe next 2 u PIRANA(u can claim them noobs but....? just like BRAVE! has SUBV next 2 them)
ur nobling tribes that are noobs and a lot smaller(just like BRAVE!)
situacion might be diffrent but....? ur acting the same way
and no ur not all bad but it seems some of ur memebrs think they can take on the world...
1-they say BDE is easy for -XIII- (understandable why u think so)
2-they say u can take on EQU icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek: please tell me why)
3- now ur memebrs say that they are better than BRAVE!:icon_eek:
[/B]no ur not all bad nuketech.....well at keast u arent
but it seems most of the bad ones post here...
Sorry it must be that I miss that your post,can you please point me where is it?
[/SPOIL]1: SubV - The well deserved rank 1 tribe of this world. Crushing PIRANA very easily and efficiently but I must say I am a bit disappointed in them. I think they should go to war with EB-GBs while both tribes are in their prime instead of waiting till the end of the world.
2: EB-GBs - Rank 2 in the world. They showed their might when they crushed Mighty and for that I have gained respect for them. Again like with what I said about SubV, I think they should war SubV while both tribes are in their prime instead of waiting.
3: Brave! - Making a mad dash for the rim but is it really a dash? Their war progress is very similar to -XIII-'s when you combine the war conquers for both tribes. Looks like size is far from everything.
[SPOIL]Brave!'s Stats
[SPOIL]Side 1:
Tribes: F34R, T-U, T-U-A!
Side 2:
Tribes: Brave!
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 22
Side 2: 224
Difference: 202
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 191,470
Side 2: 1,698,618
Difference: 1,507,148
[/SPOIL]
-XIII-'s Stats
[SPOIL]Side 1:
Tribes: Rogue, PST, TB Inc, SHNOBI, -COTA-, COTA~A
Side 2:
Tribes: -XIII-
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 23
Side 2: 205
Difference: 182
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 165,890
Side 2: 1,475,114
Difference: 1,309,224
[/SPOIL][/SPOIL]
4: PIRANA - Just like most goldfish, they have proven they have a short life expectancy.
5: SYN - Sadly having troubles recently with Khaos but I don't see them going down. They will hold out in my eyes like they have been for a very long time.
6: eQu - I think I have made it very clear I do not hold a high opinion of this tribe. They have yet to prove themselves in this world.
7: -XIII- - With stats nearly identical to the rank 3 tribe in the world, I only see these guys growing and becoming more dangerous.
8: BDE - They be muching on zeh barbs! Not to mention they are a family tribe.
[SPOIL]Side 1:
Players: <i>Barbarian villages</i>
Side 2:
Tribes: BDE, BDE1
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 0
Side 2: 400
Difference: 400
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 0
Side 2: 877,337
Difference: 877,337
[/SPOIL]
9: Khaos - I see their time getting closer and closer to an end. It's quite obvious they are not on good terms with -XIII- and I expect them to end up in war over this SHNOBI F. shenanigans.
10: F34R - Getting roasted by Brave!
11-20: 10 tribes - I'm just too lazy.
The COTA part isn't entirely true. COTA was ranked around 25 when XIII started expanding. If you mean COTA occupied more of K21 then now you're right ofourse
Oh yes I saw that post but I totally forget on it,but again you take there only our stats against 2 tribes while we are expanding in every direction and waring(under this I don't mean official war) with almost everyone near us...I mean just take a look at this post http://forum.tribalwars.net/showpost.php?p=5584838&postcount=2470 and you will see that we at Brave! increased number of our villas for 1,452 in less than a month while -XIII- take 541 in same period so you can not compare 2 tribes with showing only part of their activities....
No OFC I don't think they noble only them in your post it say they take 205 villas from them and I told they take for whole month 541 in total while Brave! take 224 from T-U F. and F34R as showen at your post and take 1452 in total,what I want to say you can not compare 2 tribes by partial stats cause their noblings in that wars are around 40% of their total noblings, while Brave!'s noblings are only around 15% of total noblings that we made in last month...Based on that you can talk that maybe we should pay more attention on our main wars or something like that,but you can not compare us to some other tribe based on that stats,cause some tribes will focus all their players(or at least most of them) on some war or on some action while those wars for Brave! are not some big organized actions,that are actions of few players who are bordering with T-U F. and F34R,if that were some massive action against some of those 2 tribe those wars would be already past but we would be forced to slowdown our growth in other directions......I hope that now you realize why I don't think those comparation were good...
and I agree that ONLY stats from main wars are very similar...
These are some numbers from the extended version i posted in or tribe forum.
22/11/2010___T-U___18___74___10,876,330(-0,33 Mil)___1,458(-145)
27/10/2010___T-U___16___95___11,206,902___1,603
Comment: 87 left and 68 new members.
As you can see T-U have been kicking/losing a lot of members over the last month and the conquers against these players wont show in the stats.
And now the Brave! numbers so everyone know what we are talking about
2/11/2010___Brave!___3___58(+4)___55,122,247(+13,75Mil)___6,013(+1,452)
27/10/2010___Brave!___4___54___41,368,013___4,561
Comment: 7 members left and 11 new members.
I believe what nit hajah tries to explain is that the total conquers over a month would be closer to what the real results are since a lot of their players leaves/gets kicked and one would assume most of them are because of our attacks.
Can we get all those conquers in the stats? Lets include all surrounding tribes so we wont miss any conquers and feel free to add tribes to this list if you notice i missed someone.
But i doubt you will get all the conquers in one of these, not without making a fake one ofc :icon_biggrin:
Lets have a look.
Side 1:
Tribes: Brave!
Side 2:
Tribes: T-U, T-U-A!, F34R, PIRANA, -DIE-, -XXX-, -XXXA-, Shock, BURN, ~PWN~
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 313
Side 2: 39
Difference: 274
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 2,421,595
Side 2: 328,320
Difference: 2,093,275
I hope everyone understand what im talking about, im not trying to hurt anyones feelings or win any battles here, i just wanted to explain a little how i see things.