[Guide] Start up build guide for No-Haul world

DeletedUser

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I have this build guide. If someone have a beter guide please chare as well. I would add it in the main post.

Build Guide 2 from Aughty2

[h=1]No haul guide under construction[/h]


01) Build guide

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click village hq - Quest Reward (50w,50c,50i)
timber camp 1
clay pit 1 - Quest Reward (100w,100c,120i)
iron mine 1
change village name - Quest Reward (50w,50c,70i)
edit profile - Quest Reward (50w,50c,50i)
mail another player - Quest Reward (100w,100c,50i)
statue 1 - Quest Reward (220w,220c,220i)
timber camp 2
clay pit 2
timber camp 3
clay pit 3
timber camp 4 - Quest Reward (200w,200c,200i)
warehouse 2
warehouse 3 - Quest Reward (500w,300c,200i)
clay pit 4
clay pit 5
timber camp 5
clay pit 6
timber camp 6
clay pit 7
timber camp 7
timber camp 8
clay pit 8
appoint paladin - Quest Reward (50w,50c,50i)
iron mine 2
iron mine 3
iron mine 4
iron mine 5
iron mine 6
iron mine 7
iron mine 8
clay pit 9
timber camp 9
warehouse 4
warehouse 5
timber camp 10
warehouse 6
clay pit 10
warehouse 7
timber camp 11
warehouse 8
clay pit 11
warehouse 9
clay pit 12
timber camp 12
iron mine 9
iron mine 10
warehouse 10
timber camp 13
clay pit 13
warehouse 11
clay pit 14
timber camp 14
timber camp 15
clay pit 15
iron mine 11
warehouse 12
clay pit 16
timber camp 16
iron mine 12
warehouse 12
clay pit 17
timber camp 17
clay pit 18
timber camp 18
clay pit 19
timber camp 19
farm 2
clay pit 20
timber camp 20
clay pit 21
farm 3
timber camp 21
iron mine 13
iron mine 14
iron mine 15
farm 4
iron mine 16
iron mine 17
warehouse 13
iron mine 18
warehouse 14
farm 5
iron mine 18
iron mine 19
warehouse 15
iron mine 20
clay pit 22
farm 6
timber camp 22
clay pit 23
timber camp 23
clay pit 24
warehouse 16
farm 7
timber camp 24
warehouse 17
clay pit 25
village headquarters 2
village headquarters 3
timber camp 25
warehouse 18
farm 8
clay pit 26
warehouse 19
iron mine 21
village headquarters 4
village headquarters 5
warehouse 20
iron mine 22
farm 9
timber camp 26
warehouse 21
clay pit 27
village headquarters 6
village headquarters 7
timber camp 27
warehouse 22
clay pit 28
village headquarters 8
warehouse 23
farm 10
iron mine 23
warehouse 24
clay pit 29
village headquarters 9
timber camp 28
village headquarters 10
farm 11
warehouse 25
iron mine 24
clay pit 30
village headquarters 11
warehouse 26
timber camp 29
village headquarters 12
village headquarters 13
farm 12
iron mine 25
timber camp 30
village headquarters 14
village headquarters 15
village headquarters 16
village headquarters 17
village headquarters 18
village headquarters 19
village headquarters 20
farm 13
iron mine 26
iron mine 27
farm 14
iron mine 28
iron mine 29
farm 15
iron mine 30
barracks 1
barracks 2
barracks 3
barracks 4
barracks 5
barracks 6
barracks 7
barracks 8
barracks 9
barracks 10
smithy 1
smithy 2
smithy 3
smithy 4
smithy 5
stable 1
stable 2
stable 3
stable 4
stable 5
smithy 6
smithy 7
smithy 8
smithy 9
smithy 10
smithy 11
smithy 12
smithy 13
warehouse 26
warehouse 27
smithy 14
smithy 15
smithy 16
farm 16
smithy 17
warehouse 28
smithy 18
smithy 19
smithy 20
academy 1
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DeletedUser

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Is the the MoM build?

Also it's a nice guide, but if you are next to a guy not mine rushing then those barracks could see your sexy village gone in an instant. You should really aim to have some troops if the nobles come knocking.
 

DeletedUser105718

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timber camp 24
warehouse 17
clay pit 25
village headquarters 2
village headquarters 3

Er, this will be fun. It's going to take what, 15h to finish clay? Going 5 hq would easily brush off 10h off the clay to 25 build. That with wood 25 would make it over 15h.
 
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SlowThinker. said:
timber camp 24
warehouse 17
clay pit 25
village headquarters 2
village headquarters 3

Er, this will be fun. It's going to take what, 15h to finish clay? Going 5 hq would easily brush off 10h off the clay to 25 build. That with wood 25 would make it over 15h.
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and the rest even on 2 speed
 

DeletedUser105718

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I took world speed into account. Not going hq 5 before going over 15 clay or something like that is just wasteful. It doesn't take long or cost a lot at all.
 

gargareth

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Yeah this is certainly imperfect. There are more efficient solutions. Especially given the 1/3 res boost.
 
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DeletedUser105718

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I'm also very sure that going, iron 2 - iron 8, is horribly inefficient. Because that will leave you with an iron over flow for a couple of days and just generally waste time.

Purple Llama said:
Second guide seems pretty good; http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?234516-No-haul-guide-under-construction
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In my opinion, not one guide is really efficient. Mainly because they don't factor in any troops or market offers. Best is to just keep wood and clay up to 4-5 levels in front of iron for the first 25 levels or so and or get iron when you see you're going to be lacking.
 
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DeletedUser105718

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I doubt that the resource boost really influences a lot in regards for the guides. Though they don't take quests into account & as you said, they don't take the new building time into account.

If you are completely lost, fallow the guide that has quests though don't go iron 2 - iron 8 and make hq 5 a lot earlier.
 

DeletedUser

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The quests will help some in speeding up the process, but the general build order will still be the same overall. Even if you rush certain quests to get their resources that doesn't guarantee that you will be quicker overall with your building.
 

DeletedUser105718

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Twisted Cognition said:
The quests will help some in speeding up the process, but the general build order will still be the same overall. Even if you rush certain quests to get their resources that doesn't guarantee that you will be quicker overall with your building.
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Some quests leave you with extra iron, clay or wood. So then fallowing the same building pattern is silly. Others give you a huge leap.
 

DeletedUser

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not a bad guide, but as others pointed out; I don't like how you wait so long to upgrade HQ. At some point you need to get it up there to make those resources finish faster. Also, farm 2 so late? Makes no sense. I understand that you don't need as many troops in a no haul world, but you will have no troops for the first 5-7 days based on this guide. Not a bad START but I don't like the middle that much and the end isn't too good. But +1 for effort and the beginning.
 

DeletedUser

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SlowThinker. said:
Some quests leave you with extra iron, clay or wood. So then fallowing the same building pattern is silly. Others give you a huge leap.
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Indeed, you may aim for your warehouse 3 a bit sooner just to get that quest reward, or get your pits to around 9/8/6 for that quest reward, but overall your build will still fall back into the same general pattern.
 

DeletedUser105718

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Upgrade hq when hq queues take ages to do. It's pretty simple. There's no need to upgrade them at a certain point, you can do it as you feel like it. Though waiting for clay 25 to finish with 1 hq? That's crazy.
 

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SlowThinker. said:
Upgrade hq when hq queues take ages to do. It's pretty simple. There's no need to upgrade them at a certain point, you can do it as you feel like it. Though waiting for clay 25 to finish with 1 hq? That's crazy.
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Oh, I don't agree with xshahzad's build at all. I think you're misunderstanding a bit. That post you linked has a solid build on it but it doesn't take into account the quests, which you'd likely detour from the build slightly in order to complete them but overall your build order would be pretty much the same.

xshahzad said:
I think the W56 guides are a bit out dated as the construction time has changed, also now a days their is a slightly higer resource i.e. 33.3% more than W56.
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This may be true but if the only change is increased resources between w56 and w71 then that doesn't change much other than being able to build things sooner. All the more reason to need a higher level HQ earlier.
 
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