Well, what I have said in our forum is that I would not respond to a child calling me out in public, but since Hibby and Deb have come here to demand I explain, and even voiced their support for someone who they admit is a bit difficult to deal with, I will.
Well it's not like you've never lied before.
MOUSE himself, is the one who made this issue about his spying or not spying. I made it about “tribe before self”. Whether or not he is a spy is inconsequential. I have heard from more than a few that he was, but when they were unable to back up their claims, I have dismissed the statements. To address the issue of Mouse being let in or out of DICE, a few things are different here and to be considered.
[*]He has left the tribe before, once when he and Hopeless were going to have a little fun with what was then WUKE. This time; however, he didn’t discuss it with anyone and just left. With morale being so low already, I have to say that isn’t good.
Uh uh uh. I left for a similar reason as I left now. Just because Hopeless happened to leave and we had some fun doesn't mean you can lie that it was planned together.
[*]There are several factors that go into the decision of not allowing him back into the tribe:
a. He never asked to be and in fact said he wasn't coming back. I never told anyone he was spying but rather several told me he was. But as I said this was without proof.
I said I didn't know if I was coming back. Which is understandable, I left for a reason however I was more than likely going to return due to my loyalty to one and only one tribe
. I've been told a few times by different people that you called me a spy.
b. He has constantly had run-ins and arguments with members of the tribe over what amounts to nothing. Mouse seems to enjoy stirring the pot, which again is not something I look for in a member of the tribe.
You mean that one time recently when myself and that guy were engaging in friendly banter and you decided to step in for no reason? Apart from that I'd pretty much chilled >.>. He later told me himself he didn't mind anymore than I did which I assumed to be the case before you blundered all over it.
c. He has now come here and done a very good job of painting me as a paranoid person, (I am not. OFC I would love to know who the spies are, but the way you handle that is to lock down the info and there are ways once that is done to get proof you need, as spies are almost always sold out when they are of no more use.)
After you asked me for all the information about my spying and I didn't have any. You decided you were too paranoid to accept that and went back on your little deal you tried to offer me which was yet another lie.
He offered to get me into another tribe if I gave all my intel away. So uhhh. I did. And I didn't have the bits he wanted so he lied his way out of it.
d. He admitted to being behind the caveman thing and while he was not responsible for caveman’s actions, he certainly didn’t help the situation. (OFC he also then, 30 seconds later, tried to say he didn’t admit to it.
The term "We already did that one" is a colloquiallism which apparently you didn't understand nor wished to partake in learning about meaning "I've already been over this once". As I said, with Hibby and Hibby has just spoken about that. So no, I didn't admit to it, you simply can't understand me >.>.
e. Anytime someone lies to me, I simply don’t trust them. Mouse never gave a straight answer even to direct questions.
Just because I evade direct answers doesn't mean I'm lying
. And I did give you a straight answer to a few so nyeah! You just lied!
f. The final reason is, I simply don’t tolerate insolence, especially when people are trying to get a rise out of me. So my response was simple, “you aren’t coming back; btw we want all the internals you took back”.
Sorry, oh almighty one. May we all bow down to your almightiness and follow you *bows*. Sorry, but if you're gonna believe crap about me and then spread your wee wings trying to get inside my head to prove your suspicions with no success then get all pissy because you were wrong. Meh, I don't get on well with kids that do that either.
Btw, why don't you ask your players to go deal with that war instead of nuking me? Ya know, kindness and uhh.. try and keep some kind of involvement?
[*]Mouse is the one who said I accused him of spying when the same people that told me he was then told him I said he was. (you got played)
People in Dice told me o.o. I got played by members of Dice? wowww.. low blow on the loyalty scale. Albeit there were some pretty high up supposed allies of Dice that told me too. But they've been shown to have very good spies so I can see them doing it.
[*]the fact is, on more than one occasion the discussion about kicking Mouse for his crap he pulled either on Skype or in the forums was had not only with current leadership but also with Hibby. Damouse knows this as more than once he was told to knock it off.
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And eventually I did
. Up until recently I've been so calm and mellow it's awesome and even that one incident was friendly and fun. Looks like you can't let your grudges drop
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Now onto another matter… Hibby, I am actually a little surprised at you.
You rush to merge with ACTIVE. (BTW thanks, they were great additions seeing as how we have NONE left.)
You rush to Declare on Wuke. (that was already going sideways when you dumped your account and BTW I hear you’re co-playing another world already.)
You jumped, Teh spear jumped, and Blow left.
We liked some of ACTIVE, it was a bad decision but given the decision at the time it seemed like a good idea
, I guess you weren't really involved with that.
At least you got your SANG merge going?
Didn't realise Teh Spear jumped
. And I don't blame Blow for leaving with you around. But to keep on topic, the WUKE war was a good idea until everyone went inactive
. It's hardly hibbys fault but I guess that doesn't really matter to you.
He was already suffering from inactivity as he left and coplaying means far less commitment, or had you not realised that? Logical stuff rarely does.
That is the condition in which I was handed the tribe from you. I didn’t ask to be duke, in fact, when offered I simply said I was honored and would do my best to help the tribe in any way I could. You promised to be around on Skype, you promised to be involved peripherally, yet you have kept none of those promises and left us high and dry. So do not weigh in on matter before you have asked me. I will clean your mess, but do not DARE judge me for how I do so.
Left you high and dry? What's wrong? Can't you cope? Hibby have to baby sit you?
And apparently he dares to defy the almighty nhoddino, deal with it. The infidels will roam in your world.
-DaMouse